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Yep, football isnt a normal business and managers' careers have been played out in the public eye so you already know about them so much more than for your standard average job.

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2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

What loads and loads? Interviewing 7-8 candidate isn't loads given how many have applied for the job. It's ok having 3 man shortlist but you might have candidates who you think wasn't interested 6 months are now cos of our league position and playoffs 

I meant people with footballing experience 

You will always have disagreements unless it one person deciding. Thats life

Obviously we dont know how many are being interviewed but as I said, 7 or 8 would suggest that they dont really know what they are looking for.

We seem to get more than our fair share of internal politics and disagreements due to the dysfunctional way the club is run.

But actually, I shouldnt talk about that as you have already told me off for.

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2 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Fantastic at Barnsley.

Cauley Woodrow was decent at Barnsley. Its a long time ago. Karanka was good at Boro but has had job after job of disappointment since.

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1 minute ago, martonrover said:

Coyle was once fantastic at Burnley.

Ismael’s recent stats are grim.

You have just beat me to posting very similar points twice!

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1 hour ago, Scoobydo said:

By taking it on a 13 game contract 😂

It doesn't even need to be this restricted.

It could be an 18 month contract with an agreed break clause with an expiration of, say 30th June, whereby they are free to leave if they want, whilst giving us time to find a replacement. 

Offer a big play-off bonus and a huge promotion bonus on top of that. Someone would take it, surely? Nothing to lose, potential for something more long-term if they decide they like the job anyway, can leave if they don't. 

 

 

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Posted

Ismael is the one that’s always been in the back of my mind with the Barnsley connection, brittain and Woodrow , not that I particularly want him but I can see the club going down that route 

Posted
2 hours ago, MB Rover said:

Might be in the minority here but I’d be targeting a big name on a 6 month deal with a huge bonus if promoted. A ‘long term’ manager, whatever that means, is no use to us right now and my focus would be on the next 6 months only. 

I agree, it is either that or give it to Lowe / Johnson for the final 13, if we keep winning.

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Would be very happy with Valerian Ismael.

Had a fantastic managerial record before his season at Watford. He also favours the formation we currently play, but a bit more attacking... perfect!

Regarding his stint at Watford, it wasn't great, sure... but there are others who've done even worse there and over a shorter period of time - such as Chris Wilder and Rob Edwards.

All experienced gaffers at this level will have blips on their records - if they didn't, they'd be managing at a higher level.

Ismael has excelled way more than he has failed as a manager, bring him in.

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3 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

We really think he's a bad appointment?! 

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Not a terrible appointment but he looks a busted flush 

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So, has Crook gone into any more detail on his twitter account or is this it?  Even if it's true, why are people assuming he's turned the job down and not the club moving onto other targets. He was the first name I mentioned when the news broke about Eustace, but maybe he just didn't interview well?

Who knows..

 

 

 

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Win percentages are such a flawed way to measure a managers competence without further information.

He did do very well to get Barnsley into the play offs but that was a while ago.

I might be misremembering this but im sure he played a back 3 at Barnsley with Brittain and Styles at wing back. His teams pressed really high up and he used to regularly make lots of attacking subs after an hour to get freshness into the team. Question is, would he be able to play such a different style with such little time to implement his ideas?

Definitely not the worst name mentioned but equally big question marks as to his record after Barnsley.

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3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Win percentages are such a flawed way to measure a managers competence without further information.

He did do very well to get Barnsley into the play offs but that was a while ago.

I might be misremembering this but im sure he played a back 3 at Barnsley with Brittain and Styles at wing back. His teams pressed really high up and he used to regularly make lots of attacking subs after an hour to get freshness into the team. Question is, would he be able to play such a different style with such little time to implement his ideas?

Definitely not the worst name mentioned but equally big question marks as to his record after Barnsley.

Just spoke to my Barnsley supporting mate - apparently in that Barnsley season he just played long ball.

"Midfield just there to press when we lost the ball, no playing between the lines"

Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Just spoke to my Barnsley supporting mate - apparently in that Barnsley season he just played long ball.

"Midfield just there to press when we lost the ball, no playing between the lines"

From the West Brom forum just before he was sacked:-

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VI's approach would've been successful in 1988 when it was a new way to play but football has moved on a bit since Wimbledon's crazy gang approach of chucking long balls up to a big man to play off, to have wide players chucking in loads of crosses and players chucking long throws into the box.......... this approach didn't work for us with Bobby Gould and it won't work in today's game with these players at least and it really wouldn't work in the premier league (don't think VI would get near that with us of course). There's probably quite a few players in local pub leagues who could play that way I imagine?

 

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25 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

We really think he's a bad appointment?! 

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Its a bit if a red flag that he hasnt even made a year at each of his last four clubs. More like an average of 8 months each which is mad.

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Posted

If we're looking at ex West Brom & Watford managers, what's Slaven Bilic up to these days? I reckon he'd last about 10mins before he lamped one of the chuckle brothers! 😄

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2 minutes ago, windymiller7 said:

If we're looking at ex West Brom & Watford managers, what's Slaven Bilic up to these days? I reckon he'd last about 10mins before he lamped one of the chuckle brothers! 😄

Good shout, Nigel Pearson might strangle 2 at once.

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Posted

Honestly Id give it to Lowe and DJ as they know the environment and players.

New manager who comes in could easily get confused and frustrated with the clown show and kick off and be a distraction.

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