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[Mercer]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

What do people of Karanka as head coach/manager? 

Someone on x said Karanka was celebrating at savoys in London. If people type in Karanka and Savoys you will find the tweet

 

4 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

In the replies someone has said he is meant to be a ‘right bastard’. I’d read similar when he was at Boro. There goes the team spirit!

 

 

Think Karanka would be a disaster for Rovers - there can be few worse appointments we could have made.

I think he is a 'disruptor' whose teams don't play good football (think back to his time with Middlesbrough).

If the stuff about Karanka celebrating at The Savoy with family and agent is correct then it would be no surprise to me as, IMO, he would be one lucky person to have landed a job like ours given his managerial track record over recent years and subsequent managerial career decline.  I bet he can't believe his luck.   

 

 

[G Somerset Rover]

The fact we’re even debating Karanka illustrates the true shit show that Venky’s have turned us into.

We can only hope they pull a Eustace or JDT out of the bag because Karanka would be a horrific appointment. One blue nose commented on social media how Karanka made his bad bout of covid even worse during the pandemic.

[robbojohnno]

Duff has done a superb job at a lower level and has the potential to show his worth at a higher level. Karanka on the other hand is on the significant decline and most recently led the favourites in Israel to 3rd (a bit like coming 3rd with Celtic) before his successor won the league the following year. 

 

I'd love a proven Championship manager of higher calibre but who in their right mind would come and work under our shambolic regime? 

[LeftWinger]

30 minutes ago, robbojohnno said:

Karanka on the other hand is on the significant decline and most recently led the favourites in Israel to 3rd (a bit like coming 3rd with Celtic) before his successor won the league the following year.

That didn't happen did it.

[roversfan99]

Karanka would be the third time that Venkys have overseen such a terrible appointment when at our lowest ebb.

When they came in amidst talk of third party involvement, they sacked a proven Premier League manager in mid table and brought in Steve Kean. When they had pulled the rug from under Lambert and decided on loads of cut backs, we brought in Owen Coyle. And now, after our manager embarassingly left with us in the top 6 to join a side in the bottom 3, he would be a dreadful appointment.

Venkys and the board have been fortunate in that much of the anger following Eustace leaving has been quelled by winning 2 on the bounce, especially that West Brom game. But if Karanka was appointed, I have seen not one positive reaction to it so upon our inevitable next loss, maybe there will be a bit of unrest.

It would also show that those defending the process to appoint a new manager as if we were just looking for the "right man" amongst these 150 candidates was totally misplaced if he is the best they can do.

[martonrover]

I sincerely hope the rumour about Aitor Krankie is unfounded.

There have been a multitude of opinions and preferences about who we should get, but he was the candidate who  pretty much united everyone as a "no thanks".

He will probably go in like Cloughie on hs first day at Leeds and pop the current feel good factor within the camp.

Bugger off Gestede.

 

[Ricky]

17 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

That didn't happen did it.

Seems to be the fact. They finished third under him and won the league the following year. 

[Tricky]

Ahhh shiiiit

 

[islander200]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Karanka would be the third time that Venkys have overseen such a terrible appointment when at our lowest ebb.

When they came in amidst talk of third party involvement, they sacked a proven Premier League manager in mid table and brought in Steve Kean. When they had pulled the rug from under Lambert and decided on loads of cut backs, we brought in Owen Coyle. And now, after our manager embarassingly left with us in the top 6 to join a side in the bottom 3, he would be a dreadful appointment.

Venkys and the board have been fortunate in that much of the anger following Eustace leaving has been quelled by winning 2 on the bounce, especially that West Brom game. But if Karanka was appointed, I have seen not one positive reaction to it so upon our inevitable next loss, maybe there will be a bit of unrest.

It would also show that those defending the process to appoint a new manager as if we were just looking for the "right man" amongst these 150 candidates was totally misplaced if he is the best they can do.

A lot will shrug their shoulders and say "We don't have the finances to bring in O'Neill or Cooper" "Karanka has experience in this division and he got Boro promoted "

Iv already seen on fb a few excuses being made if he is appointed. 

[LeftWinger]

8 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Seems to be the fact. They finished third under him and won the league the following year. 

As far as I can see he managed them in 22-23 season - where they won the league.

[RevidgeBlue]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

What do people of Karanka as head coach/manager? 

Absolutely disastrous if it happns.

What do you think?

As always you've been ultra positive throughout this convoluted process.

[superniko]

Just when you think those running the show couldn't sink any lower. It almost makes me want to believe the 'they want to avoid promotion' conspiracies. 

Horrible list of names, what on earth do Waggott and Gestede actually do day to day apart from count their wage.

 

 

[roversfan99]

He said he "wouldnt be keen at all" the other day. So interesting if that opinion would change at all if he was apppointed as he seemingly was against the idea.

[TugaysMarlboro]

Karanka is a busted flush. Anything he achieved of note was a decade ago.

[islander200]

1 minute ago, superniko said:

Just when you think those running the show couldn't sink any lower. It almost makes me want to believe the 'they want to avoid promotion' conspiracies. 

Horrible list of names, what on earth do Waggott and Gestede actually do day to day apart from count their wage.

 

 

Exactly.The Karanka link is truly odd with examples of him falling out with the board and players at his previous clubs you would think they would want to avoid a character like him 

We have had JDT and Eustace both unhappy over the way the recruitment side of things have run yet the club are considering a guy who walked out on one of his clubs due to unhappiness over them signing a player he didn't want 

He falls out with players aswell and isn't approachable according to Stewart Downing

[Roverthechimp]

4 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Exactly.The Karanka link is truly odd with examples of him falling out with the board and players at his previous clubs you would think they would want to avoid a character like him 

We have had JDT and Eustace both unhappy over the way the recruitment side of things have run yet the club are considering a guy who walked out on one of his clubs due to unhappiness over them signing a player he didn't want 

He falls out with players aswell and isn't approachable according to Stewart Downing

Promotion in history - check.

Desperate - check.

Cheap - probably.

Coyle and Mowbray similarities are striking…

[robbojohnno]

20 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

As far as I can see he managed them in 22-23 season - where they won the league.

Haiffa won the league. He was at Tel-Aviv, came 3rd and his successor won the league the following season. They are in the title race again this season and sit 2 points off top. He failed and they improved considerably under a better coach/manager.

Edited February 21 by robbojohnno
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[arbitro]

9 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Exactly.The Karanka link is truly odd with examples of him falling out with the board and players at his previous clubs you would think they would want to avoid a character like him 

We have had JDT and Eustace both unhappy over the way the recruitment side of things have run yet the club are considering a guy who walked out on one of his clubs due to unhappiness over them signing a player he didn't want 

He falls out with players aswell and isn't approachable according to Stewart Downing

That would be a real worry for me. As a squad it is generally considered that we are punching above our weight. One of the deal strengths of Eustace was how he handled the players as evidenced by the number of them who publicly praised him. His man management was clearly a big factor which everyone seemed to buy into.

A hard line approach with an air of arrogance I believe would be counter productive.

[Tugayisgod]

Niels Frederickson now in at 8/1 on skybet, probably just because he got a mention yesterday. !

The only consolation with Karancar being favourite is they rarely come true in the end

[LeftWinger]

8 minutes ago, robbojohnno said:

Haiffa won the league. He was at Tel-Aviv, came 3rd and his successor won the league the following season. They are in the title race again this season and sit 2 points off top. He failed and they improved considerably under a better coach/manager.

My mistake, I thought he managed Haifa for some reason.

[LeftWinger]

10 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

Coyle and Mowbray similarities are striking…

Neither of whom were appointed by Waggott.

We've got the last two appointments right in my opinion. No-one seems to know who we are actually going for.

I'm still hoping for a leftfield appointment 

[rog of the rovers]

I'll always support the team regardless of the manager, but here's why I think Karanka is the wrong choice.

• Hasn't managed in England in just shy of four years. He left Birmingham perched above the drop zone when he did.
• At 51 years old he'll be the oldest manager we've had since Tony Mowbray, not that this is old by any means, but in a footballing landscape that's getting younger and younger (McKenna/O'Neil/Hurzler/JDT/Eustace) I'd much prefer a younger boss.
• His connection to Rudy Gestede is concerning, this smacks as "jobs for the boys". I hope Gestede knows he's putting his own burgeoning reputation on the line with this appointment, the success or failure of the two will be linked.
• It also feels like the cheap option. I agree you should be looking for value, but with supporter numbers and season tickets on the wane, taking the cheap option will hardly inspire supporters heading into the final 12 games and more importantly next season, our 150th Anniversary year. Lack of investment in the squad and coaching staff ultimately leads to lack of investment in the stands.
• The way he left Middlesbrough and Nottingham Forest. Both times Karanka left because of issues with the board, having lost our last two managers to effectively the same issue, it feels like a ticking time bomb already.
• His only Championship success came at Middlesbrough in 2015/16, next season that's 10 years ago. For context when he had his best moment in English football, promotion to the Premier League, Steve Bruce was also promoted. If your argument is "he's done it before" then the same applies to Coyle, Bruce, Hughton, Wagner, Jokanovic all promoted with clubs around the same period.
• The snap poll from yesterday gave a worthy indicator of the overall thoughts of the fans.  https://live.tiermaker.com/34616583 as of this moment 83% of the fanbase voted negatively to Karanka becoming the new boss.
• Combine this with many Rovers' fans feelings (based on recent experience) that the playoff push will fall short, any negativity now will no doubt be amplified come the summer. For any good will towards AK he'll have to hit the ground running. This could be argued for any Rovers boss, but at least some good favour would buy 'him' more time.

Edited February 21 by rog of the rovers

[BG1492]

Karanka now 6/4 fav.

Gerrard & Ismael next at 5/1.

Grim reading.

[JHRover]

Even if you ignore Karanka's dismal recent record including at better resourced Championship clubs than he will find here, and look at the bloke's track record, as others have correctly identified he has a reputation of being a difficult character to deal with.

I'll always remember the fall out at Middlesbrough when he walked out mid-season as they were pushing for promotion and they went to Charlton I think without a manager whilst he sulked somewhere, then he came back and they got over the line in the end. This was a Middlesbrough chaired by a bloke many consider to be the best chairman in English football, a stable well run club and one that backs their managers with players and cash. 

Heaven knows how he would cope working for this shower.

I've always seen him as a 'mini Mourinho' having worked under him at Real Madrid and admitted that he draws his managerial inspiration from him. Obviously that's not necessarily a bad thing but Mourinho has a certain reputation for being an abrasive personality and if Karanka copies that it is not hard to see a problem developing.

The very last thing this group need now is an external figure coming in who rubs people up the wrong way or upsets the team spirit. It needs more of the same or a galvanising 'us against the world' figure (yes him again, a Warnock type). 

I worry that introducing a Karanka (or indeed some of the other names on this list) into our dressing room would upset the apple cart. 

I also am increasingly of the view that if they go for this that is what the people making this decision want - derailment of the season before it is too late and we get into the top 6.

[JHRover]

12 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Neither of whom were appointed by Waggott.

We've got the last two appointments right in my opinion. No-one seems to know who we are actually going for.

I'm still hoping for a leftfield appointment 

Didn't Gregg Broughton appoint the last two managers that worked out well? He was certainly director of football when we did so it would be a fair assumption that he was at least heavily involved. If he wasn't then what was he being paid for?