New manager wishlist

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Didn't Gregg Broughton appoint the last two managers that worked out well? He was certainly director of football when we did so it would be a fair assumption that he was at least heavily involved. If he wasn't then what was he being paid for?

Seems fairly well agreed that Waggott appointed Eustace.

Broughton I think was very much on the periphery by that stage after the two transfer window debacles.

[sharpysharps86]

Karanka would be a terrible appointment. If we thought JDT fell out with players wait till you get a load of this guy.

An uninspiring personality and terrible recent record. Only one brief moment of success when at Boro and he managed to make an absolute arse of himself during that as well with that little diva strop he pulled.

A (very) poor mans Mourinho. Awful.

I'd take any of the other names in the odds over Karanka.

 

[chaddyrovers]

43 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Absolutely disastrous if it happns.

What do you think?

As always you've been ultra positive throughout this convoluted process.

Like I said the other day as @roversfan99 point out I'm not over keen to be honest based on his record post Boro..

17 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

Niels Frederickson now in at 8/1 on skybet, probably just because he got a mention yesterday. !

The only consolation with Karancar being favourite is they rarely come true in the end

I would be happy Frederiksen. From what I read about him, he is very adaptable to tactics that suit the team. 

Others I would be happy with like O'Neil, Edwards, Ismael, Duff and Wicky. 

Cooper was never coming here. 

58 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Karanka would be the third time that Venkys have overseen such a terrible appointment when at our lowest ebb.

What involvement are the actual owners having? I would suggest none. Pasha runs it

58 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Venkys and the board have been fortunate in that much of the anger following Eustace leaving has been quelled by winning 2 on the bounce, especially that West Brom game. 

Have you spoken to any Rovers fans at Ewood Park or not on this forum or much on social media. They are angry at Eustace for leaving for Derby but also comments over when Derby made contact and lying to Rovers fans 

[chaddyrovers]

12 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Didn't Gregg Broughton appoint the last two managers that worked out well? He

Gregg Broughton didn't appointed Eustace. Waggott did

[Gamst]

I know they rarely pay any attention to what the fans want, but there has been a resoundingly negative response to the prospect of Karanka as manager and I would hope this would impact their decision making. I think it would be an incredibly underwhelming appointment given our league position and there would be very little sympathy from the fanbase if results went south. I'd much sooner we keep Lowe if this is the best replacement they can muster. 

[neophox]

Karanka would be a joke...terrible and not the one we need ..he will fall out with everyone and the fan group ..stay away from him...there are a lot better head coaches out there.

Edited February 21 by neophox

[roversfan99]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said the other day as @roversfan99 point out I'm not over keen to be honest based on his record post Boro..

I would be happy Frederiksen. From what I read about him, he is very adaptable to tactics that suit the team. 

Others I would be happy with like O'Neil, Edwards, Ismael, Duff and Wicky. 

Cooper was never coming here. 

What involvement are the actual owners having? I would suggest none. Pasha runs it

Have you spoken to any Rovers fans at Ewood Park or not on this forum or much on social media. They are angry at Eustace for leaving for Derby but also comments over when Derby made contact and lying to Rovers fans 

Yep, pretty much all the people I know are aware that we have terrible owners and a terrible board.

Karanka would be an appointment whereby I havent seen anyone at all respond positively to the possibility of it happening. You seem happy with a vast majority of the underwhelming list of linked managers and even you arent fond of this potential appointment.

IF it is him appointed, imagine how bad the other 149 or whatever candidates that supposedly applied must be if hes considered the best.

[Raundsrover]

My son is an academy coach and is at an under 11's tournament in Slough today and Gary O'Neil is there. I've asked him to go and talk to him.

[Forever Blue]

18 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Like I said the other day as @roversfan99 point out I'm not over keen to be honest based on his record post Boro..

 

Are you still relaxed about the upcoming managerial appointment?

[JHRover]

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Gregg Broughton didn't appointed Eustace. Waggott did

Says who?

And if correct, why was Waggott picking managers ahead of someone paid to be Director of Football?

Maybe the same will be happening again with Gestede?

[BigHoz]

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

What involvement are the actual owners having? I would suggest none. Pasha runs it

 

Huge involvement. They own the football club and employ absolute cretins to run it. 👍

[dallydally]

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Yep, pretty much all the people I know are aware that we have terrible owners and a terrible board.

Karanka would be an appointment whereby I havent seen anyone at all respond positively to the possibility of it happening. You seem happy with a vast majority of the underwhelming list of linked managers and even you arent fond of this potential appointment.

IF it is him appointed, imagine how bad the other 149 or whatever candidates that supposedly applied must be if hes considered the best.

Then if it happens take strong action i.e. veto games. They keep taking the mick time after time and clearly don't care despite the statements they put out now and again 

[dallydally]

Carlton Palmer has urged Rovers owners to ditch the three candidates being talked about in favour of O'Neill. Andy Bayes has fulfilled a telling interview on Facebook but I fear they are not being heard by the owners

[RevidgeBlue]

55 minutes ago, arbitro said:

That would be a real worry for me. As a squad it is generally considered that we are punching above our weight. One of the deal strengths of Eustace was how he handled the players as evidenced by the number of them who publicly praised him. His man management was clearly a big factor which everyone seemed to buy into.

A hard line approach with an air of arrogance I believe would be counter productive.

Agree completely with you and JH on this.

On the face of it there seems to be no logical reason why you would consider Karanka for the role. His recent managerial record is terrible. 

Going beyond that though he ticks every box for the wrong reasons. You'd have thought a key requirement regardless of ability would be to appoint a good man manager who would maintain the team spirit and harmony fostered by Eustace, and for a couple of games by Lowe. Everything I've read about Karanka suggests that he would be far more likely to achieve the opposite.

From the Club's point of view perhaps he is a cheap option and is the only one desperate enough to take the job beyond the end of the season. However, given the unique nature of the one off opportunity we currently have,  his appointment would be so much the wrong fit it would smack of deliberate sabotage - much like the collapse of the O'Brien and Mcguire deals.

If he was appointed, Id expect team morale to collapse, us to miss out on the play offs, a raft of players wanting to leave in summer and him to be gone by Christmas.

The Burnley connection apart, I didnt feel as downbeat about the prospect of being managed by Coyle and that's saying something.

[scotchrover]

Never fear- this man (with no previous football experience) is about to decide whether we give it a right good go, between now and May.

 

 

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Edited February 21 by scotchrover

[RoversClitheroe]

2 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Carlton Palmer has urged Rovers owners to ditch the three candidates being talked about in favour of O'Neill. Andy Bayes has fulfilled a telling interview on Facebook but I fear they are not being heard by the owners

Link?

[martonrover]

3 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Carlton Palmer has urged Rovers owners to ditch the three candidates being talked about in favour of O'Neill. Andy Bayes has fulfilled a telling interview on Facebook but I fear they are not being heard by the owners

Which Facebook page is the interview on, please?

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, scotchrover said:

Never fear- this man (with no previous football experience) is about to decide whether we give it a right good go, between now and May.

 

 

 

Guessing that's a very old photo with poor old Keith Lee in the foreground.

Noticed a more recent one on the LT website the other day of him and Waggott both looking somewhat haggard.

[K-Hod]

16 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Carlton Palmer has urged Rovers owners to ditch the three candidates being talked about in favour of O'Neill. Andy Bayes has fulfilled a telling interview on Facebook but I fear they are not being heard by the owners

Nobody is being heard by the owners, bar Pasha.

[islander200]

If Karanka is appointed I hope the likes of Bayes ask the club directly why he was appointed. 

I hope the media will point at his record since Boro and rumours of player fall outs and disagreements with boards,and ask what attracted the club to offering him the head coach role.

[47er]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

If Karanka is appointed I hope the likes of Bayes ask the club directly why he was appointed. 

I hope the media will point at his record since Boro and rumours of player fall outs and disagreements with boards,and ask what attracted the club to offering him the head coach role.

Almost like they don't want to go up. If it happens of course but the big thing we have going for us at the moment is team spirit.

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Gregg Broughton didn't appointed Eustace. Waggott did

How do you know this? 

[Blow-in]

9 minutes ago, islander200 said:

If Karanka is appointed I hope the likes of Bayes ask the club directly why he was appointed. 

I hope the media will point at his record since Boro and rumours of player fall outs and disagreements with boards,and ask what attracted the club to offering him the head coach role.

He was the outstanding candidate 

[scotchrover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Gregg Broughton didn't appointed Eustace. Waggott did

I’ve heard this too. I can’t remember where, but it might have been the Lancs Telegraph? 

[JHRover]

I haven't seen anything other than claims online that Waggott had anything to do with Eustace's appointment. It seems to be another one of those rumours that has been repeated so many times that it has become fact, something I imagine suits Waggott down to the ground for people to believe that he was the mastermind behind Eustace's appointment whereas big bad Broughton was the problem and things got better once he was taken out of the equation.

Might be right and might not but I repeat the question of why Rovers were paying Broughton to run the football operation and why Broughton was filmed escorting and welcoming Eustace to Ewood ahead of that Stoke game if he had no involvement in his appointment. 

I personally don't think it is a coincidence that the two managerial appointments that occurred during Broughton's time were both quick, decisive and successful appointments - almost as though he had ideas and a shortlist in place and was prepared - whereas either side of that we've taken weeks to 'interview' and sift through largely dross CVs and not got anywhere with Waggott and the curtain twitcher running the show. 

Almost as though the introduction of someone with half an idea on what was needed worked and either side of that we've been a shambles.