New manager wishlist

[RoverInverness]

35 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I haven't seen anything other than claims online that Waggott had anything to do with Eustace's appointment. It seems to be another one of those rumours that has been repeated so many times that it has become fact, something I imagine suits Waggott down to the ground for people to believe that he was the mastermind behind Eustace's appointment whereas big bad Broughton was the problem and things got better once he was taken out of the equation.

Might be right and might not but I repeat the question of why Rovers were paying Broughton to run the football operation and why Broughton was filmed escorting and welcoming Eustace to Ewood ahead of that Stoke game if he had no involvement in his appointment. 

I personally don't think it is a coincidence that the two managerial appointments that occurred during Broughton's time were both quick, decisive and successful appointments - almost as though he had ideas and a shortlist in place and was prepared - whereas either side of that we've taken weeks to 'interview' and sift through largely dross CVs and not got anywhere with Waggott and the curtain twitcher running the show. 

Almost as though the introduction of someone with half an idea on what was needed worked and either side of that we've been a shambles.

 

It is possible you may be right, but I remember GB also spouting (before JDT left) that the style of football should not change from manager to manager. That it should be a seam-less transition with all the youth teams playing the same way and any new manager buying in to this whole club footballing philosophy. 

We saw this with JDT ball and the easy way youth players fitted in to the first team (playing high press, high energy, quality passing, easy on the eye, lovely football, but still getting totally hammered).

Eustace was a change in football philosophy - kids were no longer trusted in the same way (although JDT was also desperate to be able to stop trusting the kids so much) and the football was a lot less about entertainment and (perhaps debatable) resale value/ player development. Eustace's regime was about pragmatism, being tough to beat, gaining points and getting up the table. The youth team and the resale value/player development philosophy were apparently abandoned.

GB left shortly afterwards.

I believe the circumstantial evidence clearly points to GB picking JDT and Waggot picking Eustace.

I hate Waggot. I think he's a total prick (indifferent to GB, btw). However, I certainly don't think Pasha chose Eustace, so it must have been a lucky pick from Swag. Perhaps Waggot was prepared for that one because he had been dreaming of being rid of his nemesis, JDT, for such a long, long time.

One thing I will absolutely credit GB for though. He knew what a player contract was and he knew they were kind of  important!

[Herbie6590]

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

Why on earth are we interviewing candidates in London? I assume the three stooges are staying down there in some salubrious hotel, eating fine food and drinking all at the club's expense when we haven't got a pot to pee in.

If any of the candidates are that keen they could have travelled to Brockhall or somewhere local.

Maybe it’s to expedite? Candidates can be seen quicker as they are available in London now? 

[Tom]

1 minute ago, Herbie6590 said:

My personal choice would be GON (assuming Steve Cooper is out of reach).

David Lowe is the Chernobyl choice…😆

Surely Lowe (nice guy etc) is in the terrible camp - it just never works 

[Herbie6590]

1 minute ago, RoverInverness said:

 

I believe the circumstantial evidence clearly points to GB picking JDT and Waggot picking Eustace.

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Agree FWIW 

[Tugayisgod]

46 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Ffs rovers appoint a manager.  It's like waiting for slow death 

Sounds remarkably like transfer deadline day 😃, substitute manager for player

[Herbie6590]

1 minute ago, Tom said:

Surely Lowe (nice guy etc) is in the terrible camp - it just never works 

Till June I hasten to add…

[Exiled_Rover]

2 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Maybe it’s to expedite? Candidates can be seen quicker as they are available in London now? 

Good lord, imagine how slow this process would be if it hadn't been expediated...

[jim mk2]

Waggott's domicile is somewhere down south and the club secretary works from home in Brighton so interviewing candidates in London isn't surprising as the new manager will probably live there. 

 

[Tugayisgod]

The fact that noone has been appointed yet gives me a little hope that at least it isn't Karanca. If it was, surely they could have named him by now.

Just hoping...

[jim mk2]

Frederiksen (sp?) is a new one on me but at this point I'd take anyone over Karanke

It's interesting that F's name has tightened in the betting but as has been said it's a very tight and niche market and it doesn't need much - even chatter on a football messageboard - to affect the odds.

In that spirit then I'd like to propose Gareth Southgate as the next Rovers manager. See you many "likes" and replies it gets and see whether his name suddenly appears in the betting

So off we go: Southgate for Rovers. What do you think? 

[Leonard Venkhater]

2 hours ago, Gamst said:

I know they rarely pay any attention to what the fans want, but there has been a resoundingly negative response to the prospect of Karanka as manager and I would hope this would impact their decision making. I think it would be an incredibly underwhelming appointment given our league position and there would be very little sympathy from the fanbase if results went south. I'd much sooner we keep Lowe if this is the best replacement they can muster. 

..except that John Williams is known to have spoken to Big Sam after Hughes, but...after a negative reaction from fans...went for Paul Ince!

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

So off we go: Southgate for Rovers. What do you think? 

Think Id rather have Karanka.

But, have just seen him ordering lunch in the Wilpshire Hotel in the Ray Wilkins room.

Purely coincidental I'm sure.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

..except that John Williams is known to have spoken to Big Sam after Hughes, but...after a negative reaction from fans...went for Paul Ince!

Hughes was actually picked after topping a supporters poll.

That had some bearing Im sure.

[arbitro]

11 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Maybe it’s to expedite? Candidates can be seen quicker as they are available in London now? 

I think the Mohammed should come to the mountain. 😂

Personally I would give them a time slot for an interview somewhere local. If they don't want to or are making excuses then scrub them off the list.

[LeftWinger]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I think the Mohammed should come to the mountain. 😂

We should really get worried when Mohammed is 6/4 favourite 

[JHRover]

7 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Why on earth are we interviewing candidates in London? I assume the three stooges are staying down there in some salubrious hotel, eating fine food and drinking all at the club's expense when we haven't got a pot to pee in.

If any of the candidates are that keen they could have travelled to Brockhall or somewhere local.

There have been plenty of reports that Waggott spends all or much of his non-matchday time down at his pad in Kent. I've no idea what the curtain twitcher does all week but would be surprised if he spends much of it near Ewood. It's easier to get out to India from Heathrow so perhaps he likes to spend time down there at Venky or Rovers expense ready to fly back and forth.

Then there's the 'administrator' or whatever he is called who by many accounts is based in Brighton and never comes to Blackburn.

All very convenient for a get together in some fancy London hotels/restaurants....

[RevidgeBlue]

Of all the potential things we have to worry about regarding the manager search Id say the venue of the interviews is right down at the bottom.

FWIW if London is the preferred venue Id wager its something to do with Venky's.

[Herbie6590]

13 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

The fact that noone has been appointed yet gives me a little hope that at least it isn't Karanca. If it was, surely they could have named him by now.

Just hoping...

We’re holding out for Guardiola…

[LeftWinger]

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

There have been plenty of reports that Waggott spends all or much of his non-matchday time down at his pad in Kent. I've no idea what the curtain twitcher does all week but would be surprised if he spends much of it near Ewood. 

I think he stays up in Mellor quite a lot of the time. 

[Herbie6590]

6 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I think the Mohammed should come to the mountain. 😂

Personally I would give them a time slot for an interview somewhere local. If they don't want to or are making excuses then scrub them off the list.

“Sorry Mr Klopp…I know you fancy it till June but get yourself to Northcote Manor on Friday or the whole thing’s off…” 😆

[islander200]

2 hours ago, rog of the rovers said:

I'll always support the team regardless of the manager, but here's why I think Karanka is the wrong choice.

• Hasn't managed in England in just shy of four years. He left Birmingham perched above the drop zone when he did.
• At 51 years old he'll be the oldest manager we've had since Tony Mowbray, not that this is old by any means, but in a footballing landscape that's getting younger and younger (McKenna/O'Neil/Hurzler/JDT/Eustace) I'd much prefer a younger boss.
• His connection to Rudy Gestede is concerning, this smacks as "jobs for the boys". I hope Gestede knows he's putting his own burgeoning reputation on the line with this appointment, the success or failure of the two will be linked.
• It also feels like the cheap option. I agree you should be looking for value, but with supporter numbers and season tickets on the wane, taking the cheap option will hardly inspire supporters heading into the final 12 games and more importantly next season, our 150th Anniversary year. Lack of investment in the squad and coaching staff ultimately leads to lack of investment in the stands.
• The way he left Middlesbrough and Nottingham Forest. Both times Karanka left because of issues with the board, having lost our last two managers to effectively the same issue, it feels like a ticking time bomb already.
• His only Championship success came at Middlesbrough in 2015/16, next season that's 10 years ago. For context when he had his best moment in English football, promotion to the Premier League, Steve Bruce was also promoted. If your argument is "he's done it before" then the same applies to Coyle, Bruce, Hughton, Wagner, Jokanovic all promoted with clubs around the same period.
• The snap poll from yesterday gave a worthy indicator of the overall thoughts of the fans.  https://live.tiermaker.com/34616583 as of this moment 83% of the fanbase voted negatively to Karanka becoming the new boss.
• Combine this with many Rovers' fans feelings (based on recent experience) that the playoff push will fall short, any negativity now will no doubt be amplified come the summer. For any good will towards AK he'll have to hit the ground running. This could be argued for any Rovers boss, but at least some good favour would buy 'him' more time.

You should email this to Waggott

There won't be but the media should be asking serious questions as to why Karanka was appealing to them(if he is appointed)

[Herbie6590]

1 minute ago, LeftWinger said:

I think he stays up in Mellor quite a lot of the time. 

I understand he has a house in Mellor…

[martonrover]

4 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

I understand he has a house in Mellor…

Every village needs an idiot.

[davulsukur]

28 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Why on earth are we interviewing candidates in London? I assume the three stooges are staying down there in some salubrious hotel, eating fine food and drinking all at the club's expense when we haven't got a pot to pee in.

If any of the candidates are that keen they could have travelled to Brockhall or somewhere local.

The club has loads of money? 🤷‍♂️ (at present)

£40m+ brought in and hardly any spent, they've also just received £750k for the manager!

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

How do you know this? 

As I recall, at the time of *that* fans meeting Waggott was telling all & sundry in earshot that we were scrapping the European model & reverting to a more traditional manager set up. 
It was understood that GB was on his way too (although it was surprising he didn’t immediately leave with JDT -  cash flow issues?).

Waggott let it be known that he had a candidate in mind. 24 hours later, JE was appointed.