New manager wishlist

[MB Rover]

Just now, MB Rover said:

Adam Ownes is gonna appoint himself at some point isn’t he

Won’t let me edit for some reason, whatever his last name is

[chaddyrovers]

24 minutes ago, Mercer said:

You simply don't get it do you?

If you want to rise out of mediocrity you invest in a quality manager/head coach which you will not get for £600k.

I have already posted that the average Championship manager's salary was £800k 3 YEARS AGO.

What is the point in paying the likes of Siggy, Cantwell and Dennis £18/20k a week (£3millionish per annum) when you are scuttling round to find a manager on relatively a Home Bargains' budget!!!  Absolute madness and incompetence.

You mean Eustace who did much better than you said. 600k is more than a decent salary to offer for a head coach. Not interested in average salary for managers at this level as the parachute clubs will offer bigger salaries. That article you mention is 4 and half years ago.

 

7 minutes ago, BigHoz said:

Wouldn’t worry about that Nixon article, they’re all in it together, suhail waggot Nixon chaddy, daily fix of winding the fan base up. Ignore it move on. 

You wind yourself by not accepting other people's viewpoint and respect it. That's the biggest problem with certain people on here  

57 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I never will get that. Your manager is the most important person in the club. He should be the most highly paid. 

Not been the case for many years. Do you think Ancelotti and Pep are on more than Haaland and Mbappa? 🤔

[Torgeir]

9 minutes ago, MB Rover said:

Won’t let me edit for some reason, whatever his last name is

Just own up to it mate.

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

Chaddy has gone in to full downvoting meltdown 🤣

Absolutely hate that button, me 😅.

[roverandout]

8 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

Absolutely hate that button, me 😅.

Me too

[Bethnal]

1 hour ago, Gamst said:

Nixon’s article is a non-story. It basically suggests he doesn’t have the inside line on what’s going on at Ewood. He clearly doesn’t know who the intended manager is and needed something to generate a few column inches and Patreon hits. 

Inclined to agree. Spoken to one of the two mentioned managers’ agents and pulled a tiny little article out of that chat.

Cooper earned no playing career money and is likely still on good money from Leicester sacking. No point dropping that for a job that’s less-than-optimal (batshit owners; dogshit board and exec team; zero budget in future). O’Neil will be similar, albeit probably earned good playing career money.

I think there are some who earned mega money trying to make their way into or back into English football - therefore less concerned with short-term remuneration - who you could tempt.

I think Gerrard would be one, unless the Saudi tax bill thing is the main priority for him (earned £15m/year out there, so very much could be). I imagine Duff is similar. £600k is probably a significant salary upgrade, but I still think he has a bigger motive than just his own personal career. I think being in the League of Ireland is a mission to him.

[Tugayisgod]

Frederiksen will do for me.  😄

 

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AMDty5nMU/

[BankEnd Rover]

1 hour ago, unsall said:

Still expect Niels Frederiksen to be next manager..

The guy looks terrifying, wouldn't want to get on the wrong side of him. Doesn't strike me as a manager who brings a positive culture to the dressing room either...I'd be underwhelmed if we brought him in.

[USABlue]

14 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

There's no stress - this is my last season paying close attention to Rovers with the Venkys in charge.

I think we slip off into the abyss in the summer.

Almost looks like we are being set up to be decimated this summer.

[DE.]

Unfortunately the £600k pa salary tracks if you assume Venky's are not putting any additional money into the club. If we guess Eustace was on around £600k, and factor in his compo to be between £500k - £750k (conflicting info from different sources) you'll end up at around £1.2m. £600k and a 2 year deal (or 2 years + a few months into June) would mean a manager coming in on £600k pa essentially costs them no more than they had already budgeted for. 

Zero ambition, as usual. 

[roverandout]

Talking of danish coaches Kasper hjulmamd hasn't had a job since resigning from the Denmark job. He worked wonders with them. He was probably not on a huge wage with Denmark 

[JamieUK]

Pay peanuts, get monkeys...

Or, pay league 1 wages, get league 1 football...

[B16Rover]

 

I see Nils Freidriksen has taken Paul Ince's management style to new heights 

[Mercer]

12 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You mean Eustace who did much better than you said. 600k is more than a decent salary to offer for a head coach. Not interested in average salary for managers at this level as the parachute clubs will offer bigger salaries. That article you mention is 4 and half years ago.

You are unbelievable.  If Rovers declared black was white then you would endorse it.  I honestly do not think you have a mind of your own.

Firstly, £600k is not a decent salary to offer a head coach when you are sitting in the top six and looking to get into the PL.  £600k WILL NOT attract credible candidates with a track record of some success.

You are "Not interested in average salary for managers at this level as the parachute clubs will offer bigger salaries".  Well you should be interested - how on earth do you think you can snare a suitable candidate if you are so far off the pace with your remuneration package!?  What parachute clubs pay is irrelevant - if you want a quality appointment then you pay what you need to and fund it by not handing out ludicrously expensive contacts to players of the ilk of Siggy, Cantwell and Dennis.  A manager makes or breaks a club and that is where you should channel your investment.

Finally, you say the article I mention is from 4 and a half years ago - I assume the article you are referring to was from East Anglia which stated the average Championship managers' salary was almost £900k!!!  Well you are wrong, wrong, wrong!  It was an article I read just after THIS season started and was in a non sporting niche publication looking at salaries across a number of vocational fields.

[martonrover]

We can afford to pay the wages of hangers on, like Owen and Gestede, but can’t afford to pay the going rate for a decent head coach.

Here we are, yet again, in a position where the right decision and a bit of ambition might lead to the promised land.

Will we make the right decision? Probably not, and another opportunity will have been spurned.

I know Eustace isn’t blameless, but a manager seeing a club in serious danger of relegation (from the same Division) as a better bet really does say it all.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

33 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You mean Eustace who did much better than you said. 600k is more than a decent salary to offer for a head coach. Not interested in average salary for managers at this level as the parachute clubs will offer bigger salaries. That article you mention is 4 and half years ago.

 

You wind yourself by not accepting other people's viewpoint and respect it. That's the biggest problem with certain people on here  

Not been the case for many years. Do you think Ancelotti and Pep are on more than Haaland and Mbappa? 🤔

I know, it’s mad. The manager is much more influential than any individual player, as we found out yesterday.

[sharpysharps86]

23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You mean Eustace who did much better than you said. 600k is more than a decent salary to offer for a head coach. Not interested in average salary for managers at this level as the parachute clubs will offer bigger salaries. That article you mention is 4 and half years ago.

If the article is 4 and a half years ago then that more than likely mean the average salary has increased further. Parachute payment clubs or not, you have to keep up paddling up to the surface or you'll eventually sink to a lower level.

What is your basis for 600k being decent by the way? Genuine question and not trying to be funny. Do you have any stats or facts to back that up or is it just an opinion / hunch?

 

 

[wilsdenrover]

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

I read a report a few months ago which stated the average salary for a Championship manager/head coach 3 years ago was £800,000!

Your manager/head coach makes or breaks a club and when you have underperforming players, or players simply not up to scratch, earning significantly more than the manager/head coach therein lies an issue.

In an earlier post, I advocated making a relatively 'stellar' appointment on a 3 month contract for £300k with a £1million promotion bonus in order to try and reach the promised land because let's face it, I think the club is fecked if we don't get up this season.

IMO, all the evidence just doubly underlines how useless and incompetent Waggott, Suhail and Gestede are. 

I think these figures come from the report you’re referring to:

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Are you taking the piss with all negative all the time whether its team selection, links to potential head coach appointment, signings made. 

We could appoint Klopp and you still something to moan and complain again. 

You great at saying no, no and no to everything. 

We are the playoffs place and despite what you thought we would be. This is good opportunity for promotion and if someone is coming here just for the money not the chance for promotion this season or next season to build their own team working with Gestede and Owen if we don't get promote then I don't want them here. I wanted a head coach who wanted to be here and build a team we can get behind and achieve what we want

The recruitment this season hasn't been as you suggest to be honest and let's be honest Gueye, Ohashi, Batth, Beck, Weimann, Baker were good signings, whilst Cantwell has been mixed and ACD and Toth not good enough. I take it you will of course disagree. 

Yes we know what the contract situation is with Hyam, Travis, Tronstad and Brittain. We discussed it to death to be quite honest 

Just a bit of a spoiler. Whoever comes into the job is doing so for the money. Football management is a job. No one is coming purely for the opportunity to get us promoted or to work with Rudy Gestede and Owen.

As ever, under cutback obsessed Venkys, we are seemingly trying to employ the most important position on the cheap. If we dont offer a competitive wage we will only attract the desperate because like with any job the most important thing is money. So expect a poor appointment. Why wouldn't I be negative about that?

Why would I be anything but negative about the way the club is run? Your approach is to tell people to stop going on about it, bury your head in the sand and now call people negative when they call it out.

[OnionBalaji]

Reading this thread and watching the lack of any ambition yesterday makes me think - some gravy train down at ewood 

 

how many of these players would be out of a job if we got promoted?  I’d say maybe 3 players at a push could cut it in the prem and the bulk of that team are last legs journeymen picking up their final wage packets - why risk an easy ride by being sucfessful?  Stay middling and get another year of wages …. 

[RevidgeBlue]

3 hours ago, Craigman said:

 

This is Nixon’s article. 

So, we know we offer less than the going rate for a top Championship manager and that therefore we will always struggle to get a decent replacement if anyone leaves.

Yet having lucked upon a really good head coach at that salary level, we turn him down flat when he seeks assurances about a contract extension for himself and renewal of players' contracts.

Can anyone make any sense of that?

[Mattyblue]

A few weeks ago the Chadster was saying how much of a mess the club was, now it’s all hunky dory again and if you say otherwise he’s restored back to the tiresome ‘negative’ barb.

It’s how he always is and always will be, so I wouldn’t get in a day long back and forth with him about it (I’ve learned from bitter experience).

[Tugayisgod]

If it's true that Adam Owen is having a say in the appointment of the new manager, then this recent link to Frederiksen makes a lot of sense.

Frederiksen appointed Lech Poznan manager in May 2024 , a time when Owen was technical advisor at the club and no doubt had a say in his appointment. He then left a month or two later to join us.

He obviously knows him and rates him

[martonrover]

4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

A few weeks ago the Chadster was saying how much of a mess the club was, now it’s all hunky dory again and if you say otherwise he’s restored back to the tiresome ‘negative’ barb.

It’s how he always is and always will be, so I wouldn’t get in a day long back and forth with him about it (I’ve learned from bitter experience).

I reckon he’s on the forum payroll to keep the place busy 😉

Edited 10 hours ago by martonrover

[Tom]

I’ve never seen the Kool-Aid consumed quite so earnestly!