New manager wishlist

[chaddyrovers]

24 minutes ago, BigHoz said:

who doesn’t want better? Everyone bar chaddy

of course we wanted better but I wouldn't begging O'Neil or Cooper to come here. 

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The article specifically said that people have rejected us because of the low salary on offer.

As it says, might be true, might not. But we do everything else with the pure focus on not spending money.

Of course it will lower salary than they were on in the PL. 

 

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Wasn't that kind of what Nixon's story this morning was about?

That we are struggling to attract any of the quality names because our wage and bonus package is insufficient to tempt them to take the job?

Nixon's article was that Cooper and O'Neil thinks its too low of salary for them to take them the job. If you read Nicko's comments believe his article he comments about the salaries out of work bosses wants and also think some people come for that. But ex Premier bosses mainly see that as too little.

[bigbrandjohn]

49 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

It is shit or bust for our football club. There is absolutely no point considering any coach / managerial appointment beyond the end of the season. We need to offer remuneration at £1m per annum, pro rata and a £1m promotion bonus. This provides attractive opportunity and financial incentive and then everything else is up for renegotiation in the summer. This way everything is focussed on the short term and both club and coach have options thereafter. There is no other sensible option, how will ST’s sell if we appoint a HC / Manager now who goes on to lose the majority of our remaining games ? Player trading and renewals will be dependent on the outcome of this season, the future of the club is dependent on the outcome of this season ! There can be no long term decisions made at this juncture, 12 games, shit or bust !

I agree. Wasn't it a few seasons ago Venkys were offering 1 million pounds a player for promotion? Or was it a chicken at Christmas? 

[StHelensRover]

25 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

of course we wanted better but I wouldn't begging O'Neil or Cooper to come here. 

 

Why wouldn't you be begging Steve Cooper to come here? I would. Hasn't he gotten a team into the Championship playoffs 3 times in a row, including a win with Forest from when they were at the bottom? He's also done that fairly recently. He would be far and away the best candidate for the job, if we weren't offering league one salaries 

Edited 5 hours ago by StHelensRover

[islander200]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

of course we wanted better but I wouldn't begging O'Neil or Cooper to come here. 

Of course it will lower salary than they were on in the PL. 

 

Nixon's article was that Cooper and O'Neil thinks its too low of salary for them to take them the job. If you read Nicko's comments believe his article he comments about the salaries out of work bosses wants and also think some people come for that. But ex Premier bosses mainly see that as too little.

Do you think we should be angry the club are targeting people like O'Neill and if the let and Nixon are to be believed interviewing him when we are unwilling to pay the rate those managers want.

We shouldn't be having to interview O'Neil to discover his wages are too high 

 

[simongarnerisgod]

they are going to give the job to lowe arn`t they

[KentExile]

7 minutes ago, bigbrandjohn said:

I agree. Wasn't it a few seasons ago Venkys were offering 1 million pounds a player for promotion? Or was it a chicken at Christmas? 

Apparently (according to one of the least believable websites on the internet) £10M bonus in total (presumably spread across the squad)

An even more dubious website thinks that it was £700K each

 

Edited 5 hours ago by KentExile

[JHRover]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Nixon's article was that Cooper and O'Neil thinks its too low of salary for them to take them the job. If you read Nicko's comments believe his article he comments about the salaries out of work bosses wants and also think some people come for that. But ex Premier bosses mainly see that as too little.

Cooper and O'Neil will not get jobs in the Premier League after how their Leicester and Wolves spells went. They will either need to go abroad, or more likely drop to the Championship to resume their managerial careers.

If they are going to drop to the Championship then something will have to give - either they'll have to drop their demands (if they are unreasonable as you seem to think they are) or Championship clubs will pay them what they want/need to come. It just won't be Rovers because under these owners we don't pay the going rate. We can't even be bothered to look after and maintain our own stadium so there's no way we are going to be paying hefty wages out when they can cut corners and do it on the cheap (again).

This is another reason why we never get employed managers and go after a succession of unemployed managers - all about saving and avoiding paying compensation. Their disgraceful conduct in 2016 when backtracking on the Warnock appointment to save a few quid was probably the difference between getting to the PL and ending up in League One. 

At a normal organisation the person responsible for that decision would have been down the road, sacked, years ago. Yet he appears to still be here, lurking in the shadows, making more damaging decisions costing the club.

Do you agree with the general concept that the more you pay the better you get?

 

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

Why wouldn't you be begging Steve Cooper to come here? I would. Hasn't he gotten a team into the Championship playoffs 3 times in a row, including a win with Forest from when they were second bottom? He's also done that fairly recently. He would be far and away the best candidate for the job, if we weren't offering league one salaries 

They/we don't need to beg anyone, Rovers just have to pay the going rate

But they won't

Edited 5 hours ago by KentExile

[Gamst]

5 minutes ago, KentExile said:

They/we don't need to beg anyone, Rovers just have to pay the going rate

But they won't

You’d think if they had the slightest bit of interest in what’s going on, now might be the time to throw an extra couple of hundred K at the promotion push. They are billionaires after all and they choose to own a football club. 

[StHelensRover]

Fwiw I think Leicester made a massive error in potting Cooper, I don't think they'd be as bad as they are right now. He possibly could have kept them up, but we'll never know and they are really staring down the barrel now 

[roverandout]

18 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

they are going to give the job to lowe arn`t they

If they do, I'm done with this shower of shite

[StHelensRover]

19 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

they are going to give the job to lowe arn`t they

David or Ryan? (Will yield similar results 😂)

[JHRover]

5 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

Fwiw I think Leicester made a massive error in potting Cooper, I don't think they'd be as bad as they are right now. He possibly could have kept them up, but we'll never know and they are really staring down the barrel now 

Outside the relegation zone when they sacked him, so they're now getting exactly what they deserve.

[Exiled_Rover]

18 minutes ago, KentExile said:

They/we don't need to beg anyone, Rovers just have to pay the going rate

But they won't

We're willing to pay the going rate for a team operating on a L1 budget. Same with transfers - which is why we're always scraping around the bottom of the barrel to bring players in.

[Penwortham Blue]

7 hours ago, unleaded said:

Adam Owen helping with the coaching side isn’t a big deal to me … after all he’s the clubs technical coaching director… Eustace took 2 coaches along with him we are short..Benson is with the goalkeepers mostly …. 

Hes got a vast knowledge & experience in this field and It’s wise to use it for now until a new boss is found … 2 wins out last 3 isn’t bad ….. 

Hopefully BB starts paying a bit more attention to Pears !

[OsloRover]

8 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

David or Ryan? (Will yield similar results 😂)

Rob

[Bohinen1983]

No inkling of who it might be then??

 

 

[Tugayslongwalkoff]

I think I’m at the point of giving up with our fans base. I made a post earlier in the Facebook group questioning why would we be low balling potential managers with salary offers well below the league average when we got Eustace’s salary offers the books as well as £750k compensation. 
 

What may come as a shock to nobody, I was accused of thinking I’m a finance expert and think I know better than everybody else for having the audacity to openly question our current spend (or lack thereof) and minuscule budgeting strategy of the back of huge player windfalls.

This season might be it for me, if we don’t go up this season (very unlikely), we’re heading straight off the edge of a cliff next season. We’re going to be replacing half the squad with cheap shite. 
 

The end is coming and a great deal of our fan base deserve it.
 

Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t even begin to describe these people. 

[JHRover]

3 minutes ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

I think I’m at the point of giving up with our fans base. I made a post earlier in the Facebook group questioning why would we be low balling potential managers with salary offers well below the league average when we got Eustace’s salary offers the books as well as £750k compensation. 
 

What may come as a shock to nobody, I was accused of thinking I’m a finance expert and think I know better than everybody else for having the audacity to openly question our current spend (or lack thereof) and minuscule budgeting strategy of the back of huge player windfalls.

This season might be it for me, if we don’t go up this season (very unlikely), we’re heading straight off the edge of a cliff next season. We’re going to be replacing half the squad with cheap shite. 
 

The end is coming and a great deal of our fan base deserve it.
 

Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t even begin to describe these people. 

Just don't do it to yourself. My twitter account is effectively dormant and I refuse to post anything Rovers related on there or Facebook any more because I won't get into exchanges with such people. 

The only thing worse than Venkys, Waggott and co. are the people defending/supporting/justifying what they have done to this club. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

38 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Do you think we should be angry the club are targeting people like O'Neill and if the let and Nixon are to be believed interviewing him when we are unwilling to pay the rate those managers want.

We shouldn't be having to interview O'Neil to discover his wages are too high 

 

If you had any sense you’d make it clear to his agent what your top line was before any other discussions took place

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

9 hours ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Absolutely embarrassing.

As I thought, Rovers not rushing to appoint a head coach.

All in the hope I am assuming to not get playoffs.

All nicely engineered.What a very,very convenient situation indeed eh?

[jny]

4 minutes ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

I think I’m at the point of giving up with our fans base. I made a post earlier in the Facebook group questioning why would we be low balling potential managers with salary offers well below the league average when we got Eustace’s salary offers the books as well as £750k compensation. 
 

What may come as a shock to nobody, I was accused of thinking I’m a finance expert and think I know better than everybody else for having the audacity to openly question our current spend (or lack thereof) and minuscule budgeting strategy of the back of huge player windfalls.

This season might be it for me, if we don’t go up this season (very unlikely), we’re heading straight off the edge of a cliff next season. We’re going to be replacing half the squad with cheap shite. 
 

The end is coming and a great deal of our fan base deserve it.
 

Stockholm Syndrome doesn’t even begin to describe these people. 

Stop moaning Get behind the Team

[simongarnerisgod]

8 minutes ago, jny said:

Stop moaning Get behind the Team

that`ll be the same buzzword in 3 seasons time,when we are plummeting toward the bottom division.the facebook lot are beyond saving

[Tugayslongwalkoff]

10 minutes ago, jny said:

Stop moaning Get behind the Team

There will barely be a team to get behind next season. 
 

Ewood is going to be even emptier than normal.

[Nic81]

Aren’t opinions usually on subjective matters, not on facts such as what someone is paid? I’d rather you say ‘it’s a guess’. Even if you think, without any information, that the last three managers were paid the same, that’s still poor due to inflation. 

At least pay the going rate or slightly over the odds for a short term manager with a history of motivating players and getting success. This is still a really good chance for a manager to get promotion. If we don’t get promotion then reassess. 

Any Manager, unless they have real love for Rovers, as a fan would, would expect to be paid at least the going rate. It is a great chance for promotion but fair remuneration should be a given.  

Lowe did well the first two games but the selection against Swansea was so poor, we need a HC in place before Norwich.