New manager wishlist

[Gamst]

12 minutes ago, Tugayslongwalkoff said:

There will barely be a team to get behind next season. 
 

Ewood is going to be even emptier than normal.

I’d love a journalist to ask Waggot what the plan is re contract renewals. It’s an incredibly pressing matter that renders the new manager discussion pretty irrelevant as we are currently on course to not have any senior players in 2 to 3 years.  I’d be interested to hear Swag’s take on it. Even his beloved coach is only a loan signing. 

[RoversClitheroe]

7 minutes ago, Gamst said:

I’d love a journalist to ask Waggot what the plan is re contract renewals. It’s an incredibly pressing matter that renders the new manager discussion pretty irrelevant as we are currently on course to not have any senior players in 2 to 3 years.  I’d be interested to hear Swag’s take on it. Even his beloved coach is only a loan signing. 

"I'll get back to you"

[JHRover]

14 minutes ago, Gamst said:

I’d love a journalist to ask Waggot what the plan is re contract renewals. It’s an incredibly pressing matter that renders the new manager discussion pretty irrelevant as we are currently on course to not have any senior players in 2 to 3 years.  I’d be interested to hear Swag’s take on it. Even his beloved coach is only a loan signing. 

I'm sure they will ask him about this. 

And then he earns his Venky coin, because he will say something along the lines of the club are exploring renewals, are in discussions with players about new contracts, are hopeful of progress soon, about how very good offers are being made, it's all under control.

The Telegraph print it and the deluded take it all at face value, believe it, then when the players don't sign new deals it is all their fault for wanting too much money (see exhibit Dolan)

We've done all we can and the blame lies with the player(s) and their agents. Another batch of downgrading and Championship level wages off the books, Steve and curtain twitcher congratulate themselves on another job well done. 

 

[Andy]

I genuinely expect Waggott to walk away (ie retire) at the end of the season.

It would make sense as to why no planning for beyond this season is taking place.

The alternative is that he's completely incompetent in role and has literally no idea how to go about contract renewals.
Gregg B was the last man to have any knowledge in this area, seemingly.

[KentExile]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

I genuinely expect Waggott to walk away (ie retire) at the end of the season.

It would make sense as to why no planning for beyond this season is taking place.

The alternative is that he's completely incompetent in role and has literally no idea how to go about contract renewals.
Gregg B was the last man to have any knowledge in this area, seemingly.

Both of those things can be true simultaneously

Edited February 23 by KentExile

[chaddyrovers]

Alan Nixon latest article 

Blackburn Rovers are speeding up their search for a new boss - and may have a new man in charge in the next 48 hours.

Rovers plan to speak to two candidates for a last time before making their selection following the defeat at Swansea.

Experienced Valerien Ismael has got through the process so far and is fancied as favourite to get the nod.

The former Barnsley, West Brom and Watford chief is available and would work within the budget.

Ismael may need a work permit to be processed but qualified comfortably before. He left Watford in March and could have a case to extend without reapplying.

The main contender for Ismael seems to be former Huddersfield chief David Wagner who has a good reputation in England despite a poor run in other jobs since.

Wagner would also need a permit but also worked at Norwich until May so should be clear on a similar basis to Ismael.

Other possibles have been counted out in the interview procedure with some unwilling to work for the wage on offer after lucrative spells in the Premier League.

[chaddyrovers]

So would people be happy with either Ismael or Wagner taking over? 

[philipl]

600k is a tiny fraction of what Kean was paid.

[BankEnd Rover]

Wagner over Ismael any day of the week. 

[Waggy76]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So would people be happy with either Ismael or Wagner taking over? 

Prefer Venkys Out! 

[DeeCee]

1 hour ago, OsloRover said:

Rob

Jason.

[Andy]

Nixon had us appointing Karanka, following 2 non-existent interviews earlier in the week.

If he genuinely knew what was going on, he wouldn't be writing gossip columns for the red tops.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, StHelensRover said:

Why wouldn't you be begging Steve Cooper to come here? I would. Hasn't he gotten a team into the Championship playoffs 3 times in a row, including a win with Forest from when they were at the bottom? He's also done that fairly recently. He would be far and away the best candidate for the job, if we weren't offering league one salaries 

after reading an article on his time at Leicester, and I think Cooper will see himself as PL manager and would only take a job at championship level for huge wages and spending big

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

Do you think we should be angry the club are targeting people like O'Neill and if the let and Nixon are to be believed interviewing him when we are unwilling to pay the rate those managers want.

We shouldn't be having to interview O'Neil to discover his wages are too high 

 

No I don't think we should be angry at all. 

 

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Cooper and O'Neil will not get jobs in the Premier League after how their Leicester and Wolves spells went. They will either need to go abroad, or more likely drop to the Championship to resume their managerial careers.

If they are going to drop to the Championship then something will have to give - either they'll have to drop their demands (if they are unreasonable as you seem to think they are) or Championship clubs will pay them what they want/need to come. It just won't be Rovers because under these owners we don't pay the going rate. We can't even be bothered to look after and maintain our own stadium so there's no way we are going to be paying hefty wages out when they can cut corners and do it on the cheap (again).

This is another reason why we never get employed managers and go after a succession of unemployed managers - all about saving and avoiding paying compensation. Their disgraceful conduct in 2016 when backtracking on the Warnock appointment to save a few quid was probably the difference between getting to the PL and ending up in League One. 

At a normal organisation the person responsible for that decision would have been down the road, sacked, years ago. Yet he appears to still be here, lurking in the shadows, making more damaging decisions costing the club.

Do you agree with the general concept that the more you pay the better you get?

 

I agree but I also think they have to be in line with the club structure, how we recruit players, want to be here. 

36 minutes ago, Gamst said:

I’d love a journalist to ask Waggot what the plan is re contract renewals. It’s an incredibly pressing matter that renders the new manager discussion pretty irrelevant as we are currently on course to not have any senior players in 2 to 3 years.  I’d be interested to hear Swag’s take on it. Even his beloved coach is only a loan signing. 

how are journalists going to asked questions to Waggott or Gestede when they don't do interviews beyond club media channels. They should of course used Rovers media for interviews but also do interviews with local journos like Jackson and Bayes plus Sky Sports.

4 minutes ago, Andy said:

I genuinely expect Waggott to walk away (ie retire) at the end of the season.

It would make sense as to why no planning for beyond this season is taking place.

The alternative is that he's completely incompetent in role and has literally no idea how to go about contract renewals.
Gregg B was the last man to have any knowledge in this area, seemingly.

why would Waggott leaving stop anything when Pasha is here and runs the club for the owners? 

[RTM08]

Two poor choices for me, and only highlight how non-existent the club's future planning is. Christ. 

[chaddyrovers]

1 minute ago, Andy said:

Nixon had us appointing Karanka, following 2 non-existent interviews earlier in the week.

Jackson did aswell. before 24 hours later, he wasn't on the shortlist. 

Nixon said he was interviewed and possible make it through to the final stage of the interview process

[RoversClitheroe]

Barnsley fans don't rate him.

Hoof ball is his style of play.

[Andy]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Jackson did aswell. before 24 hours later, he wasn't on the shortlist. 

Nixon said he was interviewed and possible make it through to the final stage of the interview process

Yeah, but the point is, we'd not even spoken with Karanka.

There's no basis to believe anything he writes.

[BigHoz]

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So would people be happy with either Ismael or Wagner taking over? 

Either, at the point I just want it out the way 😂😂

[wilsdenrover]

Just now, BigHoz said:

Either, at the point I just want it out the way 😂😂

I know you’re joking but this reaction is exactly what SW will be hoping for.

He’s nowhere near as stupid as he looks.

[TheFinalCountdown]

10th placed finish it is (with either of them).

[chaddyrovers]

Wagner got Huddersfield promoted and Norwich into the playoffs during his 2 spells in the championship. 

Ismael got Barnsley into the playoffs and also managed WBA and Watford were he didn't see a full season out. 

[BigHoz]

1 minute ago, wilsdenrover said:

I know you’re joking but this reaction is exactly what SW will be hoping for.

He’s nowhere near as stupid as he looks.

Absolutely, wouldn’t be happy with either, it’s just boring now. Clubs a mess. 

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, Andy said:

Yeah, but the point is, we'd not even spoken with Karanka.

There's no basis to believe anything he writes.

Have we not spoken Karanka? 

[JHRover]

26 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

So would people be happy with either Ismael or Wagner taking over? 

No, both are dreadful. 

Ismael fired off from his last two Championship clubs with a win record hovering around the 29% mark at Watford and after 1 win in 10 at parachute laden WBA.

Wagner failed miserably in Germany and Switzerland and fell short with a strong Norwich side. Let's not forget his antics towards the end of the 2016-17 season which played a part, admittedly small, in our relegation to League One. 

Nobody else anywhere near the top 6 would employ either of them.

[Gamst]

Would prefer Wagner I think. Neither option is exciting or devastating though. Just meh.