New manager wishlist

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, Fraserkirky said:

Welcome aboard Ismael!

I see what you did there 👍

[wilsdenrover]

Will people please stop calling him Ishmael.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

I'm all for bashing Coyle, but I don't think its fair to group Mowbray in with that clown. Mowbray ultimately got us back up to the Championship and steadies the ship. Absolutely no comparison between him and Coyle.

Obviously I wouldn't want Mowbray now, and he definitely had his flaws whilst at Rovers but lets not re-write history and suggest he was anything like a Coyle or dare I say a 'he who must not be named'.

The point about Mowbray is that he looked a really uninspiring appointment at the time, he was unemployed having walked out on Coventry with them near the bottom of the table. Obviously with hindsight he did better than Coyle but neither of their appointments looked promising at the time they were made and Id say the same applies in the case of Wagner and Ismael.

The only plus side is that at this point we dont really need anyone to come in and be great for 4-5 years, we just need someone to come in and make a real short term impact for 15 games.

 

[yeti-dog]

3 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

For reasons that elude even myself  I have made a list of every manager who has been promoted in the last eight years. Out of 24 names I reckon only maybe 8 are at all possible, probably the more recent ones - Martin, Edwards - almost certainly too expensive, leaving us with mostly going quite far back in time to find someone with a promotion on the cv - Munoz, Bilic, Warnock, Jokanovic, Hughton, Wagner. And all of those have had very poor years at other clubs alongside when they did get a promotion.

 

 

 

Joey, you really need to get out more...

[davulsukur]

9 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Will people please stop calling him Ishmael.

What should I call him?

[chaddyrovers]

I am surprised by people saying Ismael is a cheap option, cos I don't know who people were really expecting us appoint. I said I expected someone like Wagner or Ismael to be appointed. Also mentioned Bilic in my original post on the next head coach. 

Cooper and Gerrard was never coming here, O'Neil and Edwards long shots. People didn't want Karanka, Boateng or Wellens. Duff had support on here. 

5 hours ago, martonrover said:

I think it’s clear that a significant amount of people do not want Ismael.

I’m reading evidence of this on social media, so it’s not just on here.

If it’s an appointment that is universally welcomed, that creates a buzz and an energy.

If someone like Ismael gets it, the atmosphere is going to be flatter, and it will need the players to perform well to create the atmosphere. 

Yes I have seen a mixed reaction on social media but if Ismael starts well and we take an earlier lead on Saturday, Supporters within the stadium will created a buzz and he will come onto the pitch pre game which will created buzz also. 

5 hours ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Is that new as of today or just the story from yesterday evening?

Honestly just want it sorted now. I it is going to be Ismail then just get him in and get on with the job.

today. Says it getting closer and closer

3 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

For reasons that elude even myself  I have made a list of every manager who has been promoted in the last eight years. Out of 24 names I reckon only maybe 8 are at all possible, probably the more recent ones - Martin, Edwards - almost certainly too expensive, leaving us with mostly going quite far back in time to find someone with a promotion on the cv - Munoz, Bilic, Warnock, Jokanovic, Hughton, Wagner. And all of those have had very poor years at other clubs alongside when they did get a promotion.

 

Most on that list is untenable for us. Some are PL managers and doing very well or championship managers. 

Dean Smith, Wagner and Bilic are the 3 most tenable to be appoint here. 

Its looks Ismael 

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

What should I call him?

Ismael 

[Crimpshrine]

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

The point about Mowbray is that he looked a really uninspiring appointment at the time, he was unemployed having walked out on Coventry with them near the bottom of the table. Obviously with hindsight he did better than Coyle but neither of their appointments looked promising at the time they were made and Id say the same applies in the case of Wagner and Ismael.

The only plus side is that at this point we dont really need anyone to come in and be great for 4-5 years, we just need someone to come in and make a real short term impact for 15 games.

 

I agree. 

Unfortunately, Pasha will be desperate to appoint someone relatively cheaply. He will also be looking for someone who will be happy to stay in the job for a long period without complaining about lack of finances, running down player contracts, selling our best players. Basically he would love a Mowbray clone - someone who will talk to fans all day long and never criticise the nice people in India. The opposite of what we actually need.

Personally I think Travis as player manager until the end of the season would be a good shout.

[Leonard Venkhater]

4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

What should I call him?

Ah, very good!

[islander200]

5 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

What should I call him?

Gaffer

[islander200]

1 minute ago, Crimpshrine said:

I agree. 

Unfortunately, Pasha will be desperate to appoint someone relatively cheaply. He will also be looking for someone who will be happy to stay in the job for a long period without complaining about lack of finances, running down player contracts, selling our best players. Basically he would love a Mowbray clone - someone who will talk to fans all day long and never criticise the nice people in India. The opposite of what we actually need.

Personally I think Travis as player manager until the end of the season would be a good shout.

Cmon Travis as player manager?The lad Is having a terrific season and is clearly a leader but there is a lot more to being a head coach/manager than that 

I'm a bit underwhelmed with Ismael but if a choice between Travis as player manager or Ismael it would be Ismael every day of the week .His points per game isn't terrible, did well at Barnsley ,had West Brom 5th(granted they had hit terrible form and the fans weren't keen on his style of play) but West Brom have been steady not spectacular since and a change of manager didn't bring promotion 

He looks to have an initial impact in him and its what we need. I'm not looking past this season with this appointment as no doubt failure to go up will bring about more changes behind the scenes and talks of different models etc and practically a new squad with all the players heading into being out of contract 

 

[TommyRovers]

14 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

I agree. 

Unfortunately, Pasha will be desperate to appoint someone relatively cheaply. He will also be looking for someone who will be happy to stay in the job for a long period without complaining about lack of finances, running down player contracts, selling our best players. Basically he would love a Mowbray clone - someone who will talk to fans all day long and never criticise the nice people in India. The opposite of what we actually need.

Personally I think Travis as player manager until the end of the season would be a good shout.

You put pasha on blast for wanting to hire someone cheap and then recommend Travis as player manager.

The mind boggles.

[Gamst]

15 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I am surprised by people saying Ismael is a cheap option, cos I don't know who people were really expecting us appoint. I said I expected someone like Wagner or Ismael to be appointed. Also mentioned Bilic in my original post on the next head coach. 

Cooper and Gerrard was never coming here, O'Neil and Edwards long shots. People didn't want Karanka, Boateng or Wellens. Duff had support on here. 

 

The reality is that most managers (Eustace included) would not tolerate a situation where there are no assurances re future spending or player contracts. I suspect that rules out all the managers you listed. Given the above constraints I reckon Ismael is about as good as we can hope for.  I think with proper support a team in the Playoffs with only a handful of matches left could attract the people you mentioned. 

[Ianrally]

1 hour ago, roverandout said:

 

So that’s what’s causing the delay! They want him back but can’t find the snake. They know that would annoy the fanbase more than anything else!!!!

[CambridgeRover]

19 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

Personally I think Travis as player manager until the end of the season would be a good shout.

[Old Codger]

16 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

What should I call him?

Desperate / Deluded / Hoodwinked / Chancer / Fool - because whoever comes through the door will be revolving out of it in fairly short order due to there being no fundamental change of approach by those holding the purse strings and driving the operations of Blackburn Rovers Football Club Ltd into the ground. If there had been some kind of signal to indicate a change to the approach adopted by the club for each of the past 5 incumbents in the role, then fair enough. But doh...did I miss something?

Let's be honest. A basket case of a club, with a teflon seat in the dugout, Scrooge at the helm and Lord Lucan whispering darkly in the shadows - it is hardly a glowing prospect, is it? I suppose you could argue that we know where the bodies are buried, since they fell on their own swords to get out, but the reality is that the plague persists. It's a bit too BSE, (Bovine Spongiform Encepalopathy) for my liking, almost as if there is poison in the very fabric of the club.

I put 'Fool' last in my little list of names for the incoming, simply because anyone who enters a plague-ridden rat-infested cess pit with their eyes open, and their hands tied firmly behind their back when the job is to make the place look and feel like the Ritz, well, there has to be some question marks over their sanity, integrity and motivation. And let's face it - this is NOT the most attractive job in football, even if we are still (miraculously) in the top 6.

So, welcome, whoever you will be. I hope 'Alchemy' was high up on your CV, cos you are going to need it.

[islander200]

If they have chosen Ismael then get on with announcing his appointment, this better not drag out till later in the week and he is only in the stands Saturday 

[chaddyrovers]

Maybe give some people some thought over their original opinion of it being a poor choice or cheap choice 

[chaddyrovers]

10 minutes ago, Gamst said:

The reality is that most managers (Eustace included) would not tolerate a situation where there are no assurances re future spending or player contracts. I suspect that rules out all the managers you listed. Given the above constraints I reckon Ismael is about as good as we can hope for.  I think with proper support a team in the Playoffs with only a handful of matches left could attract the people you mentioned. 

Not for me. these people consider them PL manager/coaches or want to take time out of the game, or in Gerrard case, tax reasons

 

1 minute ago, islander200 said:

If they have chosen Ismael then get on with announcing his appointment, this better not drag out till later in the week and he is only in the stands Saturday 

he needs to sort out his work permit first

[Cherry Blue]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

he needs to sort out his work permit first

But he could have been watching training today/tomorrow if he's the new HC?

[JCRovers]

37 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

What should I call him?

"Abismael", as in an "abysmal" appointment.

Alright, I'll see myself out...

 

[BigHoz]

The only reason we can’t attract better than ismael is because of venkys. Let’s not pretend all these out of work managers are to good for us. 
 

nothing to be smug about us getting him, clubs in clear decline and our league position paints over the cracks, so I don’t believe cooper, gerrard, o Neil are to good for Blackburn rovers as some state, they’re out of work for a reason and not getting anywhere near the prem, they’re to good for venkys let’s get it straight. 
 

that said I wish ismael and the players all the luck in the world because they’re going to need it, hopefully the new man brings some energy to the side and picks the best 11 to win the games. 

[Hasta]

28 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe give some people some thought over their original opinion of it being a poor choice or cheap choice 

As I posted earlier, that's massively boosted by managing Wolfsburg II in the German pub leagues.

[XLM]

24 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Maybe give some people some thought over their original opinion of it being a poor choice or cheap choice 

That stat is a bit disingenuous. It includes 3 stints managing reserves in basically regional football.

Even without those, his win percentage is pretty decent at around 45% ish. But he's never managed anywhere for more than one season and has seemingly been let go/not renewed from all his jobs except Barnsley.

To never be given a second season anywhere is a bit of a red flag.

[Ghost7]

Personally feel this appointment is the start of the end. We will plummet next season under Ismael, Waggott and Suhail.