New manager wishlist

[BlackburnEnd75]

If they were to stick with johnson and Lowe until the summer then I'd consider bringing in another coach to help out and just give a little fresh impetus. 

Id echo what others are saying about the uniqueness of the situation. We don't want a manager to rip everything up and a lot of last nights performance was due to muscle memory from whats been worked on with eustace.

It feels like a similar situation to what happened at luton. Where rob Edwards took over a side doing well in the league which were playing a certain style of football and opted to go with what had worked so well for them up until then. That's why I'm quite intrigued by him being linked. 

Ultimately the board shouldn't try fo missell a project or vision of the club as we don't have one. Tempt someone talented in for 4 months and see where things are after that.

[JHRover]

Derby sacked their manager on Friday and I was told straight after that in the evening that Eustace was top of their list. Eustace has today confirmed the first communication with Derby came on Friday. 

By Saturday he was the clear favourite for the job and the 'official' approach came on Sunday by which time every Tom, Dick and Harry knew he was going. 

So the club should already be nearly a week into their managerial 'search'.

It's also clear that he wasn't very happy prior to his departure so you would hope/expect that the club had some sort of preparation or plan for this eventuality. 

Whilst no appointment could be confirmed until after the Eustace departure was rubber stamped there is nothing that has stopped us from speaking to options, discussing terms and agreeing things in principle.

To me it seems concerningly quiet and laid back considering the importance of what is at stake here.

[roversfan99]

We can not just leave Lowe and Johnson in charge.

Last night was a fantastic win where a team clearly so well drilled from a season working under Eustace had that additional seige mentality created by what has happened. 

Its a different story when that wears off.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We can not just leave Lowe and Johnson in charge.

Last night was a fantastic win where a team clearly so well drilled from a season working under Eustace had that additional seige mentality created by what has happened. 

Its a different story when that wears off.

100% agree.

I do expect us to sit on our hands until the play off chance has gone though.

Lowe has more chance of being replaced if he wins 4 on the bounce.

Edited 5 hours ago by RevidgeBlue

[jim mk2]

This is likely to be very similar to a transfer window - long, drawn-out, with no sign of any decision, smacking of course of the usual lack of forward planning.

Expect periodic press releases every week or so with "updates" on the club's "progress" in its "search for the right man" and how it hopes to make  an appointment "as soon as possible"

Rinse and repeat for 6 weeks.

Then it announces that Lowe will continue until the end of the season when there will be another "review" and a final decision made

 

Edited 5 hours ago by jim mk2

[rog of the rovers]

With a game again in two days I don't blame the club nor a manager for taking their time in an approach/confirmation.

We then have a full week of training and getting ready for Swansea City (a) on Saturday 22nd February, if a new boss can be in by Monday that should give him and the squad the best possible chance of hitting the ground running.

[MarkBRFC]

17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

To me it seems concerningly quiet and laid back considering the importance of what is at stake here.

Only important to the players and the fans.

The rest of the club couldn't give a hoot.

2 minutes ago, rog of the rovers said:

We then have a full week of training and getting ready for Swansea City (a) on Saturday 22nd February, if a new boss can be in by Monday that should give him and the squad the best possible chance of hitting the ground running.

Not a chance anyone is in by Monday.

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

This is likely to be very similar to a transfer window - long, drawn-out, with no sign of any decision, smacking of course of the usual lack of forward planning.

Expect periodic press releases every 2 weeks or so with "updates" on the club's "progress" in its "search for the right man" and how it hopes to make  an appointment "as soon as possible"

Rinse and repeat for 6 weeks.

Then it announces that Lowe will continue until the end of the season when there will be another "review" and a final decision made

 

Yep, expect the "we have to make sure we bring the right type of players" of the transfer window in to be replaced by "What's important is we get the right man in".

Which we might conceivably do - when its too late for this season.

It ought to be possible to get the right man for the rest of this season in immediately if we make a short term appointment then reasses at the end of the season.

[davulsukur]

28 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We can not just leave Lowe and Johnson in charge.

Last night was a fantastic win where a team clearly so well drilled from a season working under Eustace had that additional seige mentality created by what has happened. 

Its a different story when that wears off.

Agreed.

It also sounded like the players had basically organised themselves to a large extent, I guess Lowe just picked the team and that's about it.

[RTM08]

I'd imagine any respectable club keeps a list of managers together just in case there is a change at the top. To be fair, I seem to recall us being relatively fast in the past with mid-season changes(Eustace, Mowbray, Lambert etc) but I could be mistemembering.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

It’s pretty obvious that the powers that be would have known Eustace was looking for a way out for a while. A clued up board would have already got a short list of likely candidates. Of course that will change as time goes by, for instance Robins might have been on it, but he won’t be now. Names will come and go. Given the speed that they had JDT’s replacement in the club I wouldn’t be surprised if a new guy was in place by this time next week.

There’s a lot hanging on this Saturdays performance. A repeat of last night and the temptation to hang fire will grow.

Edited 4 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[JHRover]

4 minutes ago, RTM08 said:

I'd imagine any respectable club keeps a list of managers together just in case there is a change at the top. To be fair, I seem to recall us being relatively fast in the past with mid-season changes(Eustace, Mowbray, Lambert etc) but I could be mistemembering.

 

Correct, Bowyer left on 10th November 2015 and Lambert was announced on 15th November 2015.

Coyle was sacked on 21st February 2017 and Mowbray was announced on 22nd..

JDT left on 9th February and Eustace was announced or certainly in place the same day. JDT was barred from his pre-Stoke press conference and Eustace was in the stands and on the touchline for that game. 

I suppose by the same token Mowbray's drawn out departure was confirmed on 11th May 2022 which then gave rise to a delay of over a month to mid-June before JDT was confirmed. 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by JHRover

[yeti-dog]

40 minutes ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

If they were to stick with johnson and Lowe until the summer then I'd consider bringing in another coach to help out and just give a little fresh impetus. 

Id echo what others are saying about the uniqueness of the situation. We don't want a manager to rip everything up and a lot of last nights performance was due to muscle memory from whats been worked on with eustace.

It feels like a similar situation to what happened at luton. Where rob Edwards took over a side doing well in the league which were playing a certain style of football and opted to go with what had worked so well for them up until then. That's why I'm quite intrigued by him being linked. 

Ultimately the board shouldn't try fo missell a project or vision of the club as we don't have one. Tempt someone talented in for 4 months and see where things are after that.

I'm starting to lean towards Edwards too, for that very reason. Get us up and we're then exactly where Luton were. No-one gave 'em a chance of staying up and of course, they didn't but nor did they disgrace themselves like Southampton are doing this year. 

We probably come straight back down but at least have a pot to piss in.

Of course, I wouldn't want us to replicate Luton's death spiral this season, hopefully Edwards has learnt from that...

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

 

Correct, Bowyer left on 10th November 2015 and Lambert was announced on 15th November 2015.

Coyle was sacked on 21st February 2017 and Mowbray was announced on 22nd..

JDT left on 9th February and Eustace was announced or certainly in place the same day. JDT was barred from his pre-Stoke press conference and Eustace was in the stands and on the touchline for that game. 

I suppose by the same token Mowbray's drawn out departure was confirmed on 11th May 2022 which then gave rise to a delay of over a month to mid-June before JDT was confirmed. 

 

Suspect there's a significant difference between now and Mowbray/Eustace. Bowyer and Coyle had both been under performing for a significant time.

This appears to be a situation barely a week in the making.

[roverandout]

10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Suspect there's a significant difference between now and Mowbray/Eustace. Bowyer and Coyle had both been under performing for a significant time.

This appears to be a situation barely a week in the making.

I'm thinking Waggott and the other tossers are thinking they've had their fingers burnt with jdt and Eustace rocking the boat.  Now they want someone who will give them no trouble and do as they're told which is why I believe they'll stick mr personality in charge david lowe for the foreseeable future

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, roverandout said:

I'm thinking Waggott and the other tossers are thinking they've had their fingers burnt with jdt and Eustace rocking the boat.  Now they want someone who will give them no trouble and do as they're told which is why I believe they'll stick mr personality in charge david lowe for the foreseeable future

I wouldnt be surprised at all but (devil's advocate mode) if he wins another couple (and he should win on Saturday really) it almost starts to become a risk replacing him.

We need to act ASAP but probably won't.

[CaptainBeanfart]

10 minutes ago, roverandout said:

I'm thinking Waggott and the other tossers are thinking they've had their fingers burnt with jdt and Eustace rocking the boat.  Now they want someone who will give them no trouble and do as they're told which is why I believe they'll stick mr personality in charge david lowe for the foreseeable future

It's possible. But they also stretched whatever tiny budget we have on short-term loans in January. Hopefully they'll see this is a rare (possibly last for a while) chance to make the play offs. It'll be hard to justify the cost of those signings if they don't get a manager to back it up. 

[davulsukur]

This is a huge decision from the club, an underwhelming appointment and/or a poor one could totally derail this season. 

We saw last night that the players aren't prepared to give this up without a fight, we all need a solid appointment to give us the best chance of doing something.

Throw in that we are coming off the back of another total disaster situation created by the people running the club and they have some serious good will to make back up here. 

Frustrating that we only look at out of work managers, with the money we have received from transfers and the 750k they've just pocketed, they should be going all out for the best man for the job, irrespective of if they are currently employed or not.

 

[LeftWinger]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

Derby sacked their manager on Friday and I was told straight after that in the evening that Eustace was top of their list. Eustace has today confirmed the first communication with Derby came on Friday. 

Derby thought it was a done deal by Friday evening.

I suspect he was approached prior to Warne being sacked on Friday, but he can hardly admit that.

He was at Accrington Stanley on Wednesday night looking tired.

I wonder if he'd been at Derby earlier in the week for unofficial talks.

 

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

The football world is a small world. Derby would have known he’d thrown his hat into the ring for several jobs earlier. That would have told them he was available.

[Iceman]

Loweys Blue and White Army 

[Plastics]

If it's worst case scenario and they've felt burned by the last two good appointments that each lasted a year so go down the Kean style route, are we thinking Lowe will be better than Kean? I would presume so given he's worked with the first team extensively but naturally it wouldn't be my choice. I've been heartened by the level of the candidates that have been at the top of the pile odds wise but then I was when we got JDT and then again when we got Eustace. Each time we've ended up managerless I've always expected the worst and questioned who on earth would come but I guess any championship job can bring someone decent in these days. Now it's a matter of going for one of those names

[chaddyrovers]

4 hours ago, Ricky said:

We need a manager who plays a similar way. Someone who can knit the players together and continue with the unity that we’ve seen in the Squad.

I agree 100%. We need a head coach that will come in and carry playing similar way with changing little tactical things but major. Any head coach is getting a job with us in playoffs, a team united and fan based right behind these players and coaching staff

1 hour ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

If they were to stick with johnson and Lowe until the summer then I'd consider bringing in another coach to help out and just give a little fresh impetus. 

why not just Mike Sheron who step up from under 21's last night be that person

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

We can not just leave Lowe and Johnson in charge.

Last night was a fantastic win where a team clearly so well drilled from a season working under Eustace had that additional seige mentality created by what has happened. 

Its a different story when that wears off.

so you would say we need a head coach appointment after Plymouth game and before the next week with an appointment Monday/Tuesday at the latest? 

[MarkBRFC]

Ritchie Wellens is the worst name I have seen linked yet.

[AvRover]

2 minutes ago, Plastics said:

If it's worst case scenario and they've felt burned by the last two good appointments that each lasted a year so go down the Kean style route, are we thinking Lowe will be better than Kean? I would presume so given he's worked with the first team extensively but naturally it wouldn't be my choice. I've been heartened by the level of the candidates that have been at the top of the pile odds wise but then I was when we got JDT and then again when we got Eustace. Each time we've ended up managerless I've always expected the worst and questioned who on earth would come but I guess any championship job can bring someone decent in these days. Now it's a matter of going for one of those names

Given the budget and ownership we ain't a club that can offer a manager a project. It's a matter of chuck a manager in there for 14 games and see where it takes us.

The club's been teetering on the edge for years - taking the fair assumption we finish 8th, the summer is going to be chaos.