New manager wishlist

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, M_B said:

Or choose a coach who's willing to work with what he's given,rather than use it in the future to manufacture an exit.

Seems a strange decision to just leave the whole structure as it is and just get someone grateful (so probably crap) to be here and take whatever hes given.

But nothing will change with this dysfunctional club.

[BigHoz]

If I was a player ie a travis i think id be happy with gerrard, more than likely one of his idols. So just based on that, im happy to take him for 6 months 😂 I don’t think whoever comes in (especially British) will change anything this year. Case of just motivating the lads. 

[TommyRovers]

Being closer to home wasn't the reason Eustace left. It was an added bonus. 

The location of a manager should have no impact on whether they get the job or not. Please lets not make this a thing. You commute or you move! Like every one else has to do.

Edited Thursday at 21:49 by TommyRovers

[B16Rover]

We'd be better giving Johnson the job till the end of the season and spending the 750k+managers wages on a promotion bonus for the players and new contracts with promotion bonuses in built 

[danger19_80]

35 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

Only reason Rangers won it that season was Celtic repeatedly shooting themselves in both feet and then bringing in Neil Lennon. Coyle could have won the SPL that year 

They had an unbeaten season...that was nothing to do with Celtic.

[BigHoz]

5 minutes ago, B16Rover said:

We'd be better giving Johnson the job till the end of the season and spending the 750k+managers wages on a promotion bonus for the players and new contracts with promotion bonuses in built 

Much rather get the manager in now, I feel he needs to show the players what he’s about, try sort new contracts etc etc, cba with all the turmoil in the summer 😅

[Cherry Blue]

Travis is key whoever they appoint. 

[roverandout]

30 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Why would he not? He failed in Saudi Arabia and at Villa before. He would be incredibly lucky to get our job but we shouldnt even consider it. 

Because he's a checkbook manager.  

[M_B]

3 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Seems a strange decision to just leave the whole structure as it is and just get someone grateful (so probably crap) to be here and take whatever hes given.

But nothing will change with this dysfunctional club.

It isn't automatically a case that someone who  came under those conditions would be crap.

The quality (or otherwise) of the appointment would be their ability and willingness to work under those conditions.

The last 2 coaches didn't have the willingness, the question is, did they take the job under those conditions, or did they move the goalposts mid job to manufacture an exit.

[Ricky]

I’m not sure many would have picked Eustace at the time we appointed him. It could be a completely left field shout, hopefully in place pretty soon. 

I was impressed with Gary O’Neil at Bournemouth. They sold about £150m of players under him at Wolves so no shock he struggled a bit there. Wouldn’t be against him at all. I’ve already mentioned that Cooper would be the one for me but think the issue there sounds like it would be the payoff to Leicester. 

[RoverInverness]

9 minutes ago, KentExile said:

I said I think that "something " will happen in 2027, not this summer, my hope is that Venkys pack up and leave at that time

It could just as easily (and probably more likely) be that the "something" in summer 2027 is that is the date that the club has to be completely self sufficient in Venkys eyes, hence no senior players are contracted beyond that point

OK, fair enough, apologies if I misrepresented what you were saying.

Perhaps you’re right and they are expecting us to become self-sufficient. We’re going to need to make £10-£20 million profit on player sales, on average, every year.

Step one towards that goal would be putting your existing players on long term contracts.

Hmmmm!

Step two towards that goal would be appointing some very competent, experienced, knowledgable and imaginative people to run the club.

Hmmmm!

I propose a different scenario - perhaps - as a collective entity - the four of them have absolutely no plan and no clue, whatsoever, about anything, and indeed any random chaos or mess could be just around the corner at anytime. As, indeed, appears to have been the case since day one of their ownership. 

No pattern, no plan, no intricate scheme, no tax avoidance conspiracy nonsense, just total and utter random mess!

[Lancaster Rover]

7 minutes ago, danger19_80 said:

They had an unbeaten season...that was nothing to do with Celtic.

I beg to differ, if Celtic hadn’t been an absolute joke they like every other year for 9 before and those since would certainly have had a day in it

[Dreams of 1995]

13 minutes ago, BigHoz said:

If I was a player ie a travis i think id be happy with gerrard, more than likely one of his idols. So just based on that, im happy to take him for 6 months 😂 I don’t think whoever comes in (especially British) will change anything this year. Case of just motivating the lads. 

This is quite a good point actually

The players are coached. This team will know exactly how they need to play together - where they take up position, where they press and break etc

The next manager needs to be somebody who doesn’t come in and instil a new “philosophy”. We are at a time that we need to run the course as hard as we can. That means keeping it the same but being better

A motivator instead of an innovator is what is needed. Ex-professionals know that though

But one thing to say - Gerrard isn’t known for bringing home league success 

[roversfan99]

2 minutes ago, Ricky said:

I’m not sure many would have picked Eustace at the time we appointed him. It could be a completely left field shout, hopefully in place pretty soon. 

I was impressed with Gary O’Neil at Bournemouth. They sold about £150m of players under him at Wolves so no shock he struggled a bit there. Wouldn’t be against him at all. I’ve already mentioned that Cooper would be the one for me but think the issue there sounds like it would be the payoff to Leicester. 

Eustace had not long since been sacked with Birmingham 6th in the league.

O'Neil's Wolves side conceded so many goals from set pieces. They also had numerous spells of ill discipline. 2 huge red flags.

I dont think he did particularly well at Bournemouth to be honest.

[onlyonejackwalker]

31 minutes ago, Plastics said:

I'd be more likely to give up on rovers if we took on Allardyce than if Venkys stayed for the rest of my life. I fell out of love with football under him and it's never returned to where it was

Yup and you were probably in the majority at that time wanting Allardyce gone. And the Venkys agreed. Brilliant for you.

But disastrous for me and the rest of us who cared more for the clubs long term sustainable future in the Premier League than our short term personal enjoyment at matches.

That ridiculous sacking and lack of footballing insight and intelligence contributed to the Rovers playing in division two and three ever since and wiping 60% off our turnover. 

Lack of footballing intelligence being systemstic with Venkys reign. But bully for you anyway.

[Bethnal]

Spending time with this - I’d be happy with Gary O’Neil, I think. It’s been said before but I think his latter stage Wolves was the rug being pulled from under him in a way even Venky’s would raise their eyebrows at, perhaps.

Gerrard - I get why people are against it. The Saudi move is a big factor against, for me. As Devil’s Advocate for a moment: he reminds me - in terms of profile, mainly - of two managers that are well-regarded by Rovers fans: Hughes and Souness. Both may have had him on toast to an extent, but he is very similar in terms of competitiveness, grit, etc. it’s a different club, different time, true. But these players would be impressionable in his presence and if he could harness his prestige, lean on the staff that know the players for the rest of the season, I don’t think it’s the worst option out there at all. I would be open to it, at least.

[BRFC4EVA]

1 minute ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Yup and you were probably in the majority at that time wanting Allardyce gone. And the Venkys agreed. Brilliant for you.

But disastrous for me and the rest of us who cared more for the clubs long term sustainable future in the Premier League than our short term personal enjoyment at matches.

That ridiculous sacking and lack of footballing insight and intelligence contributed to the Rovers playing in division two and three ever since and wiping 60% off our turnover. 

Lack of footballing intelligence being systemstic with Venkys reign. But bully for you anyway.

I don't want to turn this thread into another SA debate, but for the 100th time, it wasn't his sacking that was the problem, but the appointment of the inept, cancerous utter shit stain Kean that sent us down. Or is your argument that SA is the only man who could have kept us in the Prem? It's nonsense 

[Mike E]

3 minutes ago, BRFC4EVA said:

I don't want to turn this thread into another SA debate, but for the 100th time, it wasn't his sacking that was the problem, but the appointment of the inept, cancerous utter shit stain Kean that sent us down. Or is your argument that SA is the only man who could have kept us in the Prem? It's nonsense 

I agree to an extent, but also remember the most common name people wanted to replace Allardyce was Martin fucking Jol 😅

[BG1492]

None of these names are exactly exciting me but I don’t expect them to with the shit show we are behind the scenes.

I have to agree though, something in me says Gerrard could get a tune out of this group & I don’t actually know why 😂 

Wellens a no for me.

[onlyonejackwalker]

5 minutes ago, BRFC4EVA said:

I don't want to turn this thread into another SA debate, but for the 100th time, it wasn't his sacking that was the problem, but the appointment of the inept, cancerous utter shit stain Kean that sent us down. Or is your argument that SA is the only man who could have kept us in the Prem? It's nonsense 

Ince had us rooted to the base of the PL. Hodgson also had us in serious trouble.

We were always one bad appointment from disaster and we had someone in Sam with the knowledge and know how to keep us up.

It was way too big a gamble. And it backfired. But I knew that without the hindsight of being proven correct. You reap what you sew.

[Cherry Blue]

1 minute ago, BG1492 said:

None of these names are exactly exciting me but I don’t expect them to with the shit show we are behind the scenes.

I have to agree though, something in me says Gerrard could get a tune out of this group & I don’t actually know why 😂 

Wellens a no for me.

Gerrard was a successful captain. If he could gel with Travis and vice versa that could work through the team.

[roversfan99]

14 minutes ago, Bethnal said:

Spending time with this - I’d be happy with Gary O’Neil, I think. It’s been said before but I think his latter stage Wolves was the rug being pulled from under him in a way even Venky’s would raise their eyebrows at, perhaps.

Gerrard - I get why people are against it. The Saudi move is a big factor against, for me. As Devil’s Advocate for a moment: he reminds me - in terms of profile, mainly - of two managers that are well-regarded by Rovers fans: Hughes and Souness. Both may have had him on toast to an extent, but he is very similar in terms of competitiveness, grit, etc. it’s a different club, different time, true. But these players would be impressionable in his presence and if he could harness his prestige, lean on the staff that know the players for the rest of the season, I don’t think it’s the worst option out there at all. I would be open to it, at least.

Wolves did sell a couple of players but as youve seen with the improvment since he left, that squad was not as bad as it appeared under him. They had conceded over 20 set piece goals I think so early in the season. The players clearly cant have respected him much because towards the end they seemed to have a public showing of ill discipline in each game.

[Seedstral]

2 hours ago, booth said:

Relegated Oldham to League 2.

Parted company by mutual consent with Salford City.

Sacked by Doncaster. 13 points in 19 matches, left them in 23rd place.

Seems to be doing well at Leyton Orient but it would be a concerning appointment.

And we'd have to pay compensation!

He had the perfect cv then for Waggott and co but as soon as you mention compensation all of  sudden he was a big fat no!!!

[JHRover]

39 minutes ago, TommyRovers said:

Being closer to home wasn't the reason Eustace left. It was an added bonus. 

The location of a manager should have no impact on whether they get the job or not. Please lets not make this a thing. You commute or you move! Like every one else has to do.

It isn't a thing it is just one of Waggott's cards that he plays via the media when a popular player or manager ups sticks and moves elsewhere rather than stay at Rovers.

Rather than face up to the reality of anyone of quality looking for a route out it is easier to get certain fans and media outlets convincing themselves and then others that it's normal, when it is very far from normal to see what we've seen here recently.

Bayes has been at it today talking about the family and travel factor. Doing Waggott's dirty work for him, he'll be delighted with it.

[47er]

43 minutes ago, BigHoz said:

If I was a player ie a travis i think id be happy with gerrard, more than likely one of his idols. So just based on that, im happy to take him for 6 months 😂 I don’t think whoever comes in (especially British) will change anything this year. Case of just motivating the lads. 

That's a bit thin for me. Gerrard's a big name and that's all he. I wouldn't go anywhere near him.