New manager wishlist

[jim mk2]

1 minute ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

Eustace leaving clearly caught them by suprise. 

Come orf it!
 

He’s been looking to leave since last summer; he’s applied for at least 3 jobs; it’s been on the cards for months; why do you think it took them by surprise when he finally received an offer and he told them he wants to go?

Rovers should have their targets lined up and been approaching them as soon as Derby made their interest known. A deal should be tied up by now. 
 

 

[Displaced Rover]

2 hours ago, TommyRovers said:

Phil Jones for manager

 

He’s back pretending to be a Rovers fan again is he? 🤦

[Plastics]

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Come orf it!
 

He’s been looking to leave since last summer; he’s applied for at least 3 jobs; it’s been on the cards for months; why do you think it took them by surprise when he finally received an offer and he told them he wants to go?

Rovers should have their targets lined up and been approaching them as soon as Derby made their interest known. A deal should be tied up by now. 
 

 

And we might have lost the last two games. I will take what's happened thus far

[jim mk2]

Just now, Plastics said:

And we might have lost the last two games. I will take what's happened thus far

Irrelevant to the previous post

[Blow-in]

1 hour ago, Mercer said:

This is feckin unbelievable.

Process smacks of cluelessness. 

Smart operators would have had this done and dusted before the Plymouth game.

 

You must be new here?

[Plastics]

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Irrelevant to the previous post

I'm simply saying I have no issue with the process having taken this long given what it has given us. We can all say things should be at a specific point but nobody here is involved in the process or knows the reasons why beyond speculation. It might be easier on a few tickers if people try not to get wound up about something people don't know about when the delay has led us to a higher position compared to when the manager left. I'm sure it's not being handled in the most efficient way given our owners but try and enjoy fifth place instead of making demands as to what exactly should be happening right about now 

[DeeCee]

There should be 3 piles for the CVs, No, Look Again, Possibles.

An hour should sort the Look Agains, serious consideration to the Possible list (2 hours including lunch), then a shortlist of maybe 5/6?

Then we've got snails pace asking how much how long, who's his agent, is he working, is he cheap etc etc. 

This is one reason why we haven't appointed a new HC yet 🤦‍♂️

[jim mk2]

12 minutes ago, Plastics said:

I'm simply saying I have no issue with the process having taken this long given what it has given us. We can all say things should be at a specific point but nobody here is involved in the process or knows the reasons why beyond speculation. It might be easier on a few tickers if people try not to get wound up about something people don't know about when the delay has led us to a higher position compared to when the manager left. I'm sure it's not being handled in the most efficient way given our owners but try and enjoy fifth place instead of making demands as to what exactly should be happening right about now 

The 2 wins since he left are irrelevant.

The point is, the lack of decision making provides another example of the shoddy way the club is run. Most clubs would have this sorted out in days - especially as his likely departure was signalled months ago.

My reply was to the erroneous statement that Eustace leaving “took the club by surprise” when it clearly could not have been. Your post doesn’t make sense

[Plastics]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

The 2 wins since he left are irrelevant.

The point is, the lack of decision making provides another example of the shoddy way the club is run. Most clubs would have this sorted out in days - especially as his likely departure was signalled months ago.

My reply was to the erroneous statement that Eustace leaving “took the club by surprise” when it clearly could not have been. Your post doesn’t make sense

Surely it can take them by surprise because of their incompetence or because they had convinced themselves that our league position meant that he would see out the rest of the season, thus not having someone lined up right away. You could have an idea three months ago and a contingency plan (not saying they did) but all of a sudden it is a different set of circumstances when it comes to availability. I personally think it's a combination of the two, mainly the incompetence. But these constant declarations of where we should be are akin to a kid in the back asking "are we there yet?", which would perhaps make more sense if we were losing but maybe take a little time to chill and appreciate the wins and wait for the process to play out

[onlyonejackwalker]

39 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Come orf it!

He’s been looking to leave since last summer; he’s applied for at least 3 jobs; it’s been on the cards for months; why do you think it took them by surprise when he finally received an offer and he told them he wants to go?

Rovers should have their targets lined up and been approaching them as soon as Derby made their interest known. A deal should be tied up by now. 
 

 

Eustace applying for jobs is a lot different to a club triggering a buy out clause.

I know you were ahead of the game with this subject Jim. But you are typing without thinking.

If Eustace could have left at anytime since last summer, we would have needed to have our chosen replacement in line ready to snap him up. For 8 months. Life isnt quite as smooth as that. People dont wait around for months on end hoping we will come calling.

And why would we expect him to leave with 18 months on his contract? You think he emailed everyone to say he was applying for jobs elsewhere?

Targets? Theres only one job. There's only one correct appointment.

18 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

The 2 wins since he left are irrelevant.

The point is, the lack of decision making provides another example of the shoddy way the club is run. Most clubs would have this sorted out in days - especially as his likely departure was signalled months ago.

My reply was to the erroneous statement that Eustace leaving “took the club by surprise” when it clearly could not have been. Your post doesn’t make sense

How wrong you are re the bit in bold. The results are the only thing that matters, not your frustration things have not moved as quickly as you like.

We couldnt employ someone before Eustace left! And since he left we have won. What more do you want?

And I notice you've not been predicting mid table mediocrity of late. Any reason for that as you seemed so sure if yourself for months on end. Even when it was pointed out we were in the play offs all season.

[Paul Mani]

2 hours ago, JHRover said:

Why did they not run a similar process when searching for JDT's successor and instead got Eustace sorted out very quickly? Did they not have 100+ applicants back then?

I suspect the answer to that is that Broughton was involved in getting JDT and Eustace in and both happened quickly and professionally, whereas prior to Broughton arriving and now we see a totally different approach, quite shambolic.

In their efforts to make this managerial 'search' appear thorough and professional by referring to interviews and CVs coming in all they are doing is digging a deeper hole for themselves when they end up leaving Lowe in charge or hand it to another friendly face/linked agency client. 

Argh, come on mate…think.

When JDT was sacked it was the clubs decision and they were about to be relegated.  Therefore, they wouldn’t have 100 applicants, and they could speak to managers for weeks in the lead up.

Honestly, if they had a shortlist and added 100+ applicants, then the timeframe is not abnormal and they 100% need to get this right. An announcement in the next week seems perfectly fine to me.

[NeilInBristol]

52 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Come orf it!
 

He’s been looking to leave since last summer; he’s applied for at least 3 jobs; it’s been on the cards for months; why do you think it took them by surprise when he finally received an offer and he told them he wants to go?

Rovers should have their targets lined up and been approaching them as soon as Derby made their interest known. A deal should be tied up by now. 
 

 

Yep!

They are just keeping us waiting.

We are the last to be told what's going on. Shocking Comms from the club since then lot took over.

[Torgeir]

9 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Argh, come on mate…think.

When JDT was sacked it was the clubs decision and they were about to be relegated.  Therefore, they wouldn’t have 100 applicants, and they could speak to managers for weeks in the lead up.

Honestly, if they had a shortlist and added 100+ applicants, then the timeframe is not abnormal and they 100% need to get this right. An announcement in the next week seems perfectly fine to me.

JDT was linked to the Sweden job for a good while and ultimately they paid for his release so they had some time to plan for his replacement, yes.

I don't mind us taking our time, just hope it's not a bargain auction to see who can go lower. Hopefully before next week eh?

[Exiled_Rover]

32 minutes ago, Plastics said:

Surely it can take them by surprise because of their incompetence or because they had convinced themselves that our league position meant that he would see out the rest of the season, thus not having someone lined up right away. You could have an idea three months ago and a contingency plan (not saying they did) but all of a sudden it is a different set of circumstances when it comes to availability. I personally think it's a combination of the two, mainly the incompetence. But these constant declarations of where we should be are akin to a kid in the back asking "are we there yet?", which would perhaps make more sense if we were losing but maybe take a little time to chill and appreciate the wins and wait for the process to play out

If you're giving it to Lowe for the rest of the season, you're still down 3 coaches from the staff as Eustace and his two pals are now in Derby. 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, Torgeir said:

JDT was linked to the Sweden job for a good while and ultimately they paid for his release so they had some time to plan for his replacement, yes.

I don't mind us taking our time, just hope it's not a bargain auction to see who can go lower. Hopefully before next week eh?

Apparently everyone and their brother knew Eustace was applying for every open Championship job. 

Surely they had a list of replacements lined up. Him leaving can't have come as a shock to them. 

[Torgeir]

2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Apparently everyone and their brother knew Eustace was applying for every open Championship job. 

Surely they had a list of replacements lined up. Him leaving can't have come as a shock to them. 

And things change quickly in football. New names pop up, others are crossed off the list. Almost unbelievable that Eustace left us for Derby. 

[Torgeir]

6 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

If you're giving it to Lowe for the rest of the season, you're still down 3 coaches from the staff as Eustace and his two pals are now in Derby. 

We're in a position to attract a good name for the job, so we should take advantage of that. Lowe will be here again at a later stage if the new coach fails.

[simongarnerisgod]

i reckon rovers are the worst run club out of all 92 professional sides in england,they simply cannot do anything even remotely correct😕

[neophox]

Russel Martin hasn't been mentioned.

[LeftWinger]

2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he knows **** all about football or it`s characters,it`s very dangerous letting that **** pick a manager,he`d reject zidane and choose ryan lowe,honestly,if maggot is in charge of the selection process,it will be someone who`s cheap and out of work

What are you basing this on? On the occasions I've met him, he's come across as very knowledgeable about the game and players. 

He's been in the selection process for two managers whilst he's been at Rovers. Both have been good appointments which have turned sour due to a lack of backing from above his head. 

 

[simongarnerisgod]

1 minute ago, LeftWinger said:

What are you basing this on? On the occasions I've met him, he's come across as very knowledgeable about the game and players. 

He's been in the selection process for two managers whilst he's been at Rovers. Both have been good appointments which have turned sour due to a lack of backing from above his head. 

 

sarcasm😁???

[Paul Mani]

19 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

JDT was linked to the Sweden job for a good while and ultimately they paid for his release so they had some time to plan for his replacement, yes.

I don't mind us taking our time, just hope it's not a bargain auction to see who can go lower. Hopefully before next week eh?

Absolutely. When was it announced JE was gone, a week ago? So apparently they did a round of video (first) interviews last Friday (probably those they were already in touch with) then they’re interviewing, online with second interviews in person this week. Travel, scheduling etc. Seems fine to me. 

Edited Tuesday at 20:29 by Paul Mani

[neophox]

https://www.thecomet.net/sport/24190489.wellens-key-part-post-match-scuffle-v-stevenage/

Seems Wellens is a shithouse manager who may inspire this lot.

[philipl]

Part of the incompetence is the division of opinions not only between Eustace and the administration but also between themselves.

Apparently there is mutual dislike between Suhail, Waggott and others. 

That said the long term dissatisfaction of Eustace would only be unknown if the warring administrators has convinced themselves he wasn't serious.

I believe the process for the new appointment is further ahead then Bayes is reporting but his report gives them cover for a delay while they disagree between themselves and with Pune.

[Lecogsportif]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

A good chunk of the supposed 100+ applicants will be from the man on the street, probably piss takers from B*rnley.

Board does not have a clue if they are sifting through all those 100 applicants, agree could be piss takers, CM aspirants…