v Swansea City (a) - 22/2/25

[LDRover]

  On 22/02/2025 at 23:43, scotchrover said:

It might explain why we were so poor away at Plymouth and Oxford too. We looked way off it in those games too. Can someone ask this at the next club-trust meeting? 

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They stayed at the Crown Plaza in Plymouth the night before. I know that as I stayed there too.

[47er]

  On 22/02/2025 at 22:37, Ghost7 said:

I can't get over the first goal today.

It's a totally unacceptable error, one of the worst I've seen. Have we seen more individual errors and points cost by a goalkeeper in our history over the course of two seasons?

He's absolutely terrible and it's criminal as said before that we didn't push the extra 500k etc for a proper number 1.

He's had a "decent season" because Batth, Hyam and Tronstad have protected the life out of him.

You can't go into any playoff games with a keeper like this.

Toth must be f*cking useless.

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We should never have sold Kaminski.

[47er]

  On 22/02/2025 at 23:36, Exiled_Rover said:

We'll fall short because we haven't spent a penny in two years. Obviously our spending over the last decade is absolutely criminal if you look at the stats (45th out of 48 teams to play in the Championship).

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But what makes it worse is that Swansea have spent less!!

[bigbrandjohn]

  On 23/02/2025 at 00:17, 47er said:

We should never have sold Kaminski.

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It was bad but then the Chelsea goalkeeper was really bad. 

[XLM]

  On 22/02/2025 at 23:50, Exiled_Rover said:

He was better positionally than Pears and about equal as a shot stopper. He was just as bad on crosses, but he didn't have Batth protecting him.

We also immediately got our money back for him. I don't see clubs lining up to sign Calamity Pears. 

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He was definitely better positionally and even worse on crosses as you say, probably better with his feet too... But Wahlstedt was way worse than Pears overall.

His arms didn't work and he couldn't catch. It was as though he was holding a pair of plastic hands to make his arms longer.

The fact we've been unable to bring in a keeper better than Aynsley fucking Pears in 4 windows is criminal.

Edited February 23 by XLM

[Bbrovers2288]

Ryan hedges stats-

games played 33

1 goal- I can’t even remember it 

1 assist

and he is meant to be an attacker.

bin bin bin 

[NJRover]

  On 23/02/2025 at 01:41, Bbrovers2288 said:

Ryan hedges stats-

games played 33

1 goal- I can’t even remember it 

1 assist

and he is meant to be an attacker.

bin bin bin 

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In fairness, it was that ball juggly belter vs Watford but fact still remains that he’s toilet. 

[bluebruce]

  On 22/02/2025 at 12:58, simongarnerisgod said:

i like to keep positive on the playing side,we are playing a side thats struggling badly,rovers should definately be getting a result  today,makter to terrorise them and bag a brace😁

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I really wish you'd been right here and not me.

[bluebruce]

  On 23/02/2025 at 03:41, NJRover said:

In fairness, it was that ball juggly belter vs Watford but fact still remains that he’s toilet. 

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That was last season 

[London blue]

Reflecting on yesterday, it's a mix of disappointment and resignation. A lot of people saw this coming before the line up was announced  

Then we saw Hedges, Weimann and Foreshaw. I was honestly staggered how anyone can see Swansea's fragility, coupled with the hunger and pace of Kargbo and determine that Hedges was the way to go.

Ceded them the upper hand from the start (despite a good opening 10 mins, which is the least I'd expect.)

Having a manager in place, instead of a coach who is clearly reverting to mean and trying to maintain the status quo, would have given us an edge we clearly needed.

Instead it's another 3 points lost to beurocracy, lack of preparation and the overall malaise that these pricks have woven through our club.

A waste of time for everyone involved.

Why the rush, indeed.

Edited February 23 by London blue

[Penwortham Blue]

  On 23/02/2025 at 00:10, LDRover said:

They stayed at the Crown Plaza in Plymouth the night before. I know that as I stayed there too.

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Whilst I know that behind the scenes we are an absolute shit-show, I don’t believe for one minute that they travelled down on the day.

[BankEnd Rover]

It's very rare that I'm still angry the day after a defeat but I just can't forgive Lowe on yesterday. I'd love to hear his explanation on starting certain players and the reasoning to not making subs at half time! 

[Andy]

  On 23/02/2025 at 01:41, Bbrovers2288 said:

Ryan hedges stats-

games played 33

1 goal- I can’t even remember it 

1 assist

and he is meant to be an attacker.

bin bin bin 

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I can't believe that we don't have better players in the Academy, or ones who wouldn't contribute more to the team.

[superniko]

  On 22/02/2025 at 22:37, Ghost7 said:

I can't get over the first goal today.

It's a totally unacceptable error, one of the worst I've seen. Have we seen more individual errors and points cost by a goalkeeper in our history over the course of two seasons?

He's absolutely terrible and it's criminal as said before that we didn't push the extra 500k etc for a proper number 1.

He's had a "decent season" because Batth, Hyam and Tronstad have protected the life out of him.

You can't go into any playoff games with a keeper like this.

Toth must be f*cking useless.

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I’d love to see the full list. Starting with the multiple howlers vs Wigan in the FA Cup. 2 stinkers vs Huddersfield when pushing for promotion with JDT not long after, probably 30 in between and then yesterday.

It may bring on PTSD though 

[davulsukur]

  On 23/02/2025 at 01:41, Bbrovers2288 said:

Ryan hedges stats-

games played 33

1 goal- I can’t even remember it 

1 assist

and he is meant to be an attacker.

bin bin bin 

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I've defended Hedges a bit in the past but he's been really poor this season (and probably last in truth) but yesterday he was abysmal. 

No idea how he made it back onto the pitch for the 2nd half.

Can't hide from those stats though. Awful.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 23/02/2025 at 09:00, davulsukur said:

I've defended Hedges a bit in the past but he's been really poor this season (and probably last in truth) but yesterday he was abysmal. 

No idea how he made it back onto the pitch for the 2nd half.

Can't hide from those stats though. Awful.

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When Mowbray went out of his way to sign him I thought what has he got ?  Is he quick, is he a tricky dribbler, is he a good header of the ball, is he an aggressive nasty bastard who’s a nightmare to play against, is he a workhorse who runs the left hand side all day, does he get late into the box and score goals, can he cross a good ball ?

After about 3 or 4 games I was scratching my head because he’s none of those things. I’m at a loss to see what Mowbray saw. How he’s still a regular is a complete mystery to me.

Edited February 23 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Waggy76]

  On 23/02/2025 at 07:10, London blue said:

Reflecting on yesterday, it's a mix of disappointment and resignation. A lot of people saw this coming before the line up was announced  

Then we saw Hedges, Weimann and Foreshaw. I was honestly staggered how anyone can see Swansea's fragility, coupled with the hunger and pace of Kargbo and determine that Hedges was the way to go.

Ceded them the upper hand from the start (despite a good opening 10 mins, which is the least I'd expect.)

Having a manager in place, instead of a coach who is clearly reverting to mean and trying to maintain the status quo, would have given us an edge we clearly needed.

Instead it's another 3 points lost to beurocracy, lack of preparation and the overall malaise that these pricks have woven through our club.

A waste of time for everyone involved.

Why the rush, indeed.

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I would not be too surprised if there was meddling in the team selection ...

[neophox]

  On 23/02/2025 at 00:17, 47er said:

We should never have sold Kaminski.

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We should had bought him back in the January window. More important than Dennis Kargbo Woodrow...

[neophox]

Weimann and Hedges should not have started...they were terrible...Weimanns seems a prick...loosing the ball often.

[sharpysharps86]

  On 23/02/2025 at 09:54, neophox said:

Weimanns seems a prick...loosing the ball often.

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Ah yes, the definition of someone being a prick.

[Mattyblue]

Hedges is a prime example of the nonsense of modern football. A wide player picked more for ‘what he does off the ball’ then what he actually can produce on it, you know, that passé stuff like, taking on a man, crossing, passing, shooting.

Edited February 23 by Mattyblue

[sharpysharps86]

Unfortunately Lowe had already made it fairly clear in the Plymouth post match interviews that Kargbo wouldn't be starting. Simply read between the lines of his comment on AK needing to work on the defensive side of his game.

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  On 23/02/2025 at 10:04, sharpysharps86 said:

Ah yes, the definition of someone being a prick.

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I seem a prick on a Monday night

[Parsonblue]

It was a long journey back yesterday to reflect on what I'd witnessed in the afternoon.  Without doubt it was the worst performance of the season but, in many ways, it was a perfect reflection of where we are as a club.  I've never really believed that we are a top six squad.  Granted, there have been times this season when a few good results, strung together, have led to me hope that me might creep into the play-offs, almost by default - the inconsistences of others being our best chance to get there.

However, yesterday was the perfect illustration of our own inconsistences.  Players who had excelled in the previous two games suddenly found it difficult to do the basics even moderately well.  Stray passes, missed tackles, poor positional play and glaring errors were there for all too see.  I remarked after the first five minutes about how we were lacking the intensity in our play of the previous two games and so it turned out.

Individual players make errors all the time so I don't put the blame for yesterday's defeat on any particular player.  They all under performed - for me Forshaw and Ribeiro were the best of a poor bunch.  We are what we are, a fairly solid Championship side but I'm not convinced we are more than that.

As we approach the business end of the season the foot should be firmly down on the accelerator - look at Coventry and Bristol City - we seem to build momentum for a couple of games and then stall and go into reverse for a couple of games.  I fear this is another season when the top six will remain tantalisingly out of reach. 

Whether a new head coach can change that remains to be seen but on the evidence of yesterday he'll have his work cut out to deliver the consistency that is required at this point.

[Ferrit]

I don’t think the club were thinking too straight to choose Swansea as a game for match worn shirts. Who the fuck is going to buy one of those from the worst performance of the season? Pears? I wouldn’t take that for free

edit - wow someone has bid £100 for Hedges, must be his Mum

Edited February 23 by Ferrit