v Norwich City (h) - 1/3/2025

[M_B]

2 hours ago, Hasta said:

They were dominating literally to the point the substitutions were made. Then it switched.

If they had ultimately settled for the draw before the red card, it was because the momentum of the game had changed following the substitutions.

I'm fairly sure they werent dominating up until the hour point and then thought "yeah that's enough lads, we're getting at their back 4 at will but lets start sitting back and defending a bit deeper now. Let Blackburn have the ball a bit more"

I'd say, the way they came right back at us and opened us up twice in quick succession, all be it with 10 men, would prove the opposite.

 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Lancaster Rover said:

Absolutely, it’s certainly the way we’ve played the last 12 months. Brittain and Beck almost always orient their body to show the player down the line rather than back inside. I think this is in part because JE was confident in our ability to win aerial duels.
 

It’s definitely a modern coaching nuance where keeping players out of the central zone around the D is the main objective when defending 

You mean keeping attacking players out of the “ D “  ? It’s obvious really because a lot of goals are scored from in and around that part of the pitch. Until recently Tronstad was great at policing that area. We very rarely allowed shots on goal from around the “ D” . That partially explains why Pears started to look half decent.

Edited yesterday at 12:58 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Hasta]

20 minutes ago, M_B said:

I'd say, the way they came right back at us and opened us up twice in quick succession, all be it with 10 men, would prove the opposite.

 

So you think literally the minute Tronstadt come on, it coincided with Norwich deciding if to change their gameplan and settle for a point. Ok.

I believe playing Forshaw instead of getting a replacement of a similar quality to Baker has cost us what could be significant points in January. Yesterday quite starkly enforced that view for me.

Edited yesterday at 13:13 by Hasta

[norwichblue]

30 minutes ago, ... said:

There's no way derby are winning this. They've scored like 3 goals in 11 games or thereabouts 

Haha we did say that about Swansea though 🫠

[Bohinen1983]

I would rather play Garrett than Foreshaw and he's on the bench for Tranmere at the moment..   Ridiculous signing..

 

 

[Michael123458]

Shocking ref shit game

magic andi with last second goal fantastic to see carter back and tronstad RTID

NEXT MATCH DERBY 0 2 ROVERS 👍

[Herbie6590]

The BRFCS POTM in association with www.PSLSoccer.co.uk is Callum Brittain 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

28 minutes ago, Michael123458 said:

NEXT MATCH DERBY 0 2 ROVERS 👍

Its NEVER that easy though is it!

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He’s definitely an improvement on Pickering in my book. Beck will become a better player but he’s not going to be playing for us beyond May.

It'd be a real shame if we went from having left back finally sorted after all these years, to just Pickering next season. He's alright, but he's also been better with competition and not being relied on week in week out.

[aletheia]

After 6 min they should have been 1 up.
After 26 min we should have been down to 10.
After 67 min we should have been down to 9 and game over.

They controlled most of the game. (circa 60/40)
Our press was poor, half-hearted.
Travis was very average today after a good season thus far.
I thought big Mak was ineffective today.
Their keeper had no saves to make.

We had a couple of 10 minute spells where we looked threatening (particularly with Kargbo on the left) but never really had the quality when it mattered.

I wonder if the players are saving it for Derby.

 

[Waggy76]

46 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

It'd be a real shame if we went from having left back finally sorted after all these years, to just Pickering next season. He's alright, but he's also been better with competition and not being relied on week in week out.

I would be surprised if it wasn't Pickering next season and some odd ball loan.. 

Cannot see the owners wanting to sign Ribiero, he will be offered an insulting offer and sign for Plymouth. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

10 minutes ago, aletheia said:

 

 

After 6 min they should have been 1 up.
After 26 min we should have been down to 10.
After 67 min we should have been down to 9 and game over.

They controlled most of the game. (circa 60/40)
Our press was poor, half-hearted.
Travis was very average today after a good season thus far.
I thought big Mak was ineffective today.
Their keeper had no saves to make.

We had a couple of 10 minute spells where we looked threatening (particularly with Kargbo on the left) but never really had the quality when it mattered.

I wonder if the players are saving it for Derby.

 

 

Tbh I expected more from the side with it being the new Gaffers first game.An opportunity to make a statement of intent.

 

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2 hours ago, norwichblue said:

Haha we did say that about Swansea though 🫠

Can't just go into every game expecting lose it. 

[Eddie]

I think a few on here are being a bit too negative about our performance and/or overstating their dominance.

The draw was a fair result. They started both halves well and got back on top immediately after we went down to 10, but we also had moments where we controlled the game and looked more dangerous. 

[M_B]

2 hours ago, Hasta said:

So you think literally the minute Tronstadt come on, it coincided with Norwich deciding if to change their gameplan and settle for a point. Ok.

I believe playing Forshaw instead of getting a replacement of a similar quality to Baker has cost us what could be significant points in January. Yesterday quite starkly enforced that view for me.

No I don't, but as much as I like and appreciate Tronstads qualities, he obviously isn't such a dynamic player as to change the momentum of a game so dramatically.

Great to  have him back, and also having Forshaw up to speed to slot in when needed. It might allow for a little bit of rotation if and when we're on top.

 

[Exiled_Rover]

8 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

This is Tronstad’s 29 minutes for comparison…much more involved, much more effective..

What were Travis' stats?

Tronstad and Forshaw were playing two different positions yesterday - Forshaw was clearly playing further forward and trying to play progressive passes.

Tackles are misleading, especially for CMs. How many tackles did Carrick make in his career? It's mostly about interceptions in that position.

Not that I'm trying to say Forshaw is a patch on Tronstad, he's clearly not, but I thought he was solid yesterday. Certainly not the horrific player many have painted him out to be. 

[roversfan99]

Forshaw didnt make progressive passes though and even simple ones sometimes went astray.

[Exiled_Rover]

8 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

Kargbo don’t do defending…he leaves his full back exposed far too often…needs attention on the training pitch…

And this is how you end up with the likes of Dolan and Hedges as your wide options.

Multiple times yesterday he sprinted nearly the length of the pitch to snuff out their attacks (one he fluffed with a bad slide tackle), but his job is at the other end. He's clearly willing to defend, but it shouldn't be his priority when he's our only pacey outlet upfront. 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

He’s definitely an improvement on Pickering in my book. Beck will become a better player but he’s not going to be playing for us beyond May.

Beck is already a better player.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, aletheia said:

 

 

After 6 min they should have been 1 up.
After 26 min we should have been down to 10.
After 67 min we should have been down to 9 and game over.

They controlled most of the game. (circa 60/40)
Our press was poor, half-hearted.
Travis was very average today after a good season thus far.
I thought big Mak was ineffective today.
Their keeper had no saves to make.

We had a couple of 10 minute spells where we looked threatening (particularly with Kargbo on the left) but never really had the quality when it mattered.

I wonder if the players are saving it for Derby.

 

 

All of this negativity and I can only recall Pears making one save.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

22 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Beck is already a better player.

I meant Beck will become a better player than Beck already is now.

[DE.]

Norwich did a lot of passing without really having an end product to show for it. From talking to a few Norwich fans post match this seems to be something they're used to away from home (apparently this isn't such a problem at home). 

We weren't terrible, but not great either. Average performance and probably lucky to have 11 on the pitch for as long as we did. Fair I think to have expected a bit more fire for a new manager, but maybe that energy was already given during Lowe's first couple of matches. 

It looked like a couple of mid table Championship teams duking it out, and perhaps at the end of the season that's what it ultimately will have been. 

There's plenty of inconsistent teams around us, so it isn't over yet. Coventry may well break away if their current form continues, which would just leave 6th up for grabs. The opportunity is there for Ismael and the lads, but we'll need to be winning against teams like Derby. Huge match irrespective of Eustace. 

[Andy]

4 hours ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I would rather play Garrett than Foreshaw and he's on the bench for Tranmere at the moment..   Ridiculous signing..

Agree with this, certainly on Garrett.

I know a few don't rate him on here, but I started seeing more from him last year - he was more of a box-to-box player (as opposed to a disruptor) and chipped in with a few goals.

This season should have been the one where he got more game time to see how he develops.

[RoversTilliDie]

11 hours ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

When it comes to the referee, of the two sides, we have less to complain about than Norwich. Hyam should have gone in the first half and Dennis could easily have gone for his first yellow. The second yellow was soft but one way or another, I don’t think we could complain about being down to 10 by the end.

Gordon's red card for Newcastle, was a carbon copy of Dennis for Rovers. Dennis probably cost Rovers the 3pts.

[RoversTilliDie]

12 hours ago, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

When it comes to the referee, of the two sides, we have less to complain about than Norwich. Hyam should have gone in the first half and Dennis could easily have gone for his first yellow. The second yellow was soft but one way or another, I don’t think we could complain about being down to 10 by the end.

It was harsh on Dennis from the useless referee, his 2nd yellow, he hardly made contact.