Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[chaddyrovers]

31 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I have to wonder why his career since has taken him to Eastbourne after that, if he's any use. They play in the sixth tier.

Cos he is the manager/head coach there. He's wont be here but assistant head coach here. 

You could say why did Mark Hughes ended up at Bradford now Carlisle given how well he did at Rovers, Stoke and Fulham in the PL

[roverandout]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

No that's Andy fucking Murray 😂

 

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Cos he is the manager/head coach there. He's wont be here but assistant head coach here. 

You could say why did Mark Hughes ended up at Bradford now Carlisle given how well he did at Rovers, Stoke and Fulham in the PL

Well that's because his career was on a massive downward trajectory and he was getting older, reducing his desire for the pressure of the big jobs and meaning he hadn't kept up with the advances in football. He has become a fairly crap manager and we wouldn't want him here.

Are you saying that's what's happened to this bloke, except worse since he has stepped down several more tiers?

The Assistant is less important, but has an essentially similar skillset and could take over in an emergency or if the boss leaves. Which would give us a 6th tier level manager temporarily.

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Well that's because his career was on a massive downward trajectory and he was getting older, reducing his desire for the pressure of the big jobs and meaning he hadn't kept up with the advances in football. He has become a fairly crap manager and we wouldn't want him here.

Hughes did very well overall in the PL. 

Hughes was applying for jobs just not getting appoint by these clubs. 

Hughes would have kept up with advances in Football. Hughes knows his stuff. He ain't daft

 

9 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Are you saying that's what's happened to this bloke, except worse since he has stepped down several more tiers?

No idea is the honest answer. 

9 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

The Assistant is less important, but has an essentially similar skillset and could take over in an emergency or if the boss leaves. Which would give us a 6th tier level manager temporarily.

If Ismael left then it would Lowe and Johnson as caretakers again 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

Well that's because his career was on a massive downward trajectory and he was getting older, reducing his desire for the pressure of the big jobs and meaning he hadn't kept up with the advances in football. He has become a fairly crap manager and we wouldn't want him here.

Are you saying that's what's happened to this bloke, except worse since he has stepped down several more tiers?

The Assistant is less important, but has an essentially similar skillset and could take over in an emergency or if the boss leaves. Which would give us a 6th tier level manager temporarily.

Hughes hasn't been the same since the Taffia left him. They made a great team.

The worrying thing about Murray / Rovers is that we have 11 (I think) games left, are in a great position to finish in the Playoff places and we're not pushing for Murray to join up with our staff from Eastbourne. 

Tells you how serious they're taking this promotion challenge.

[MarkBRFC]

17 hours ago, aletheia said:

11th manager in 14 years (+ 5 caretaker spells in that time)
So generally looking for a new manager in 1.27 years.
IV has a 4 year contract 🙂

 

 

16 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

Bonkers isn’t it? 

Especially as Mowbray was here for 5 and a half years of that 14!

Edited March 3 by MarkBRFC

[unleaded]

I know we are used to the likes of Eustace just walking away mid season Maybe Murray just wants to fulfil his contract to the club that gave him a chance when others wouldn’t…Different people Different Morals ….. Different Strokes ……..

[martonrover]

36 minutes ago, unleaded said:

I know we are used to the likes of Eustace just walking away mid season Maybe Murray just wants to fulfil his contract to the club that gave him a chance when others wouldn’t…Different people Different Morals ….. Different Strokes ……..

Yes, Eastbourne are having a decent season, and good for Murray if he’s staying to see it out and try and get them promoted.

[JHRover]

Maybe Ismael insisted that a condition for taking the job was that he would be allowed to bring in his own backroom staff and Rovers have 'agreed' to this in the summer.

We all know what jam tomorrow promises can be made at Rovers and how often those don't materialise once 'circumstances change'

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, unleaded said:

I know we are used to the likes of Eustace just walking away mid season Maybe Murray just wants to fulfil his contract to the club that gave him a chance when others wouldn’t…Different people Different Morals ….. Different Strokes ……..

Then he's a fool and we're a coach down during the most crucial period of the season. 

Evidently Isamael hasn't been given the remit that a promotion challenge is a priority. 

Edited March 3 by Exiled_Rover

[Forever Blue]

3 hours ago, unleaded said:

I know we are used to the likes of Eustace just walking away mid season Maybe Murray just wants to fulfil his contract to the club that gave him a chance when others wouldn’t…Different people Different Morals ….. Different Strokes ……..

Or more likely we won’t pay the compo

[martonrover]

4 hours ago, JHRover said:

Maybe Ismael insisted that a condition for taking the job was that he would be allowed to bring in his own backroom staff and Rovers have 'agreed' to this in the summer.

We all know what jam tomorrow promises can be made at Rovers and how often those don't materialise once 'circumstances change'

Eustace was allowed two, so I reckon it's more a case of Murray wanting to do the right thing by his current employers.

I would imagine they are more honourable people than our lot.

[simongarnerisgod]

8 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Eustace was allowed two, so I reckon it's more a case of Murray wanting to do the right thing by his current employers.

I would imagine they are more honourable people than our lot.

holy ****,are you suggesting blackburn rovers can`t lure a coach away from the mighty eastbourne🤣

[martonrover]

12 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

holy ****,are you suggesting blackburn rovers can`t lure a coach away from the mighty eastbourne🤣

He's not going to be manager / head coach, is he?

To be honest I cant see the problem here.

Ismael already has Whitehead with him, and I don't see Murray as being crucial to our fortunes between now and May.

 

[Tugayisgod]

50 minutes ago, martonrover said:

He's not going to be manager / head coach, is he?

To be honest I cant see the problem here.

Ismael already has Whitehead with him, and I don't see Murray as being crucial to our fortunes between now and May.

 

People just trying to make something out of nothing again. They are 2nd in the league with 9 games to go. It couldn't be that he just wants to try and finish the job he's there for, could it ?

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, unleaded said:

I know we are used to the likes of Eustace just walking away mid season Maybe Murray just wants to fulfil his contract to the club that gave him a chance when others wouldn’t…Different people Different Morals ….. Different Strokes ……..

Very good point and maybe Murray wants to actual show some loyalty to current employee and stay until the end of the season@JHRover and @Forever Blue, which rare in football but Murray is grateful for Eastbourne for giving him a job and wants to see the season through. 

[London blue]

 

21 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

People just trying to make something out of nothing again. They are 2nd in the league with 9 games to go. It couldn't be that he just wants to try and finish the job he's there for, could it ?

I'm sorry but a coach not wanting to leave Eastbourne in order to join Blackburn is not nothing. 

Especially after our manager left us while we were in the playoffs to join relegation threatened Derby. 

Please don't insult people's intelligence like that.

[JHRover]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very good point and maybe Murray wants to actual show some loyalty to current employee and stay until the end of the season@JHRover and @Forever Blue, which rare in football but Murray is grateful for Eastbourne for giving him a job and wants to see the season through. 

We are, allegedly, a Championship club challenging to secure a place in the biggest and most valuable league in world football in the next 2-3 months.

And we are worrying about Eastbourne Borough's manager being grateful for them giving him a job and wanting to 'see the season through' in the National League South?

Good grief Chaddy.

Next up you'll be telling me that Adam Murray's wife enjoys living in Eastbourne and doesn't want to relocate to NW England.

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

We are, allegedly, a Championship club challenging to secure a place in the biggest and most valuable league in world football in the next 2-3 months.

And we are worrying about Eastbourne Borough's manager being grateful for them giving him a job and wanting to 'see the season through' in the National League South?

Good grief Chaddy.

It's called loyalty and some people believe it that. You are the one worried about it not me FFS

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Next up you'll be telling me that Adam Murray's wife enjoys living in Eastbourne and doesn't want to relocate to NW England.

It was you posting about Rothwell's missus not happy and wanting to move back down South not myself. Don't forget that. 

[Forever Blue]

8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very good point and maybe Murray wants to actual show some loyalty to current employee and stay until the end of the season@JHRover and @Forever Blue, which rare in football but Murray is grateful for Eastbourne for giving him a job and wants to see the season through. 

Sweet, naive young Chaddy believing he’s staying at Eastbourne because of ‘loyalty FFS’.
 

We’ve no idea why he’s staying, we’ve no idea if we want him. It’s all tittle-tattle. 
 

And who knows, he might even want to pursue tennis full time and give up on football completely.

So many unknowns FFS…..

[K-Hod]

He's loyal to Eastbourne in the National League South, when Blackburn Rovers of the second tier come calling?

Reyt then.

[Mattyblue]

Take it Damien Johnson or whoever would ‘show some loyalty’ if Liverpool came calling?

[martonrover]

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24977075.blackburns-stance-ismaels-staff-addition/

Ismael seems fairly relaxed about it all.

I think there’s a lot of speculating about what the situation actually is regarding Murray.

We don’t know if he’s actually told Ismael / Rovers that he won’t come until the Summer.

Is he likely to be the difference between qualifying or not qualifying for the play offs?

Probably not.

[JHRover]

8 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

It's called loyalty and some people believe it that. You are the one worried about it not me FFS

It was you posting about Rothwell's missus not happy and wanting to move back down South not myself. Don't forget that. 

I'm not worried about anything Chaddy other than your state of mind. Too much water passed under the bridge for me to be worrying about trivial minor inconsequential issues like coaching and backroom staff who will be here for at best 12 months before they give up / are forced out.

My references to the Rothwell nonsense were tongue in cheek comments making fun of the claim because it was and is ludicrous. People like you were using it as an excuse and reason as to why he was leaving Rovers to join Bournemouth because that's what you enjoy doing - convincing yourself and others that there is a reason beyond Rovers' control why bad things happen and that they are not to blame - when in most cases I think Rovers are at least partly responsible. 

Heaven knows how Rothwell got permission to move to Leeds in the summer, how will his Mrs cope with that one? Or maybe it was just made up drivel as some of us knew from the start. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

On 04/03/2025 at 09:08, JHRover said:

I'm not worried about anything Chaddy other than your state of mind. Too much water passed under the bridge for me to be worrying about trivial minor inconsequential issues like coaching and backroom staff who will be here for at best 12 months before they give up / are forced out.

Well you are clearly worried about it since you seem to be focusing on it even tho Ismael is happy with the current staff he has there. 

Nothing wrong with my state of mind, so no need for such comments, I just seen everything you do. 

On 04/03/2025 at 09:08, JHRover said:

My references to the Rothwell nonsense were tongue in cheek comments making fun of the claim because it was and is ludicrous. People like you were using it as an excuse and reason as to why he was leaving Rovers to join Bournemouth because that's what you enjoy doing - convincing yourself and others that there is a reason beyond Rovers' control why bad things happen and that they are not to blame - when in most cases I think Rovers are at least partly responsible. 

Heaven knows how Rothwell got permission to move to Leeds in the summer, how will his Mrs cope with that one? Or maybe it was just made up drivel as some of us knew from the start. 

or it was truth. How is ludicrous that a player family might not be happy away from family or friends. Would you be happy moving away from your home to different county and somewhere where you didn't know anyone. I know I wouldn't want to move away from where I live where my family and friends are.