Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[arbitro]

5 minutes ago, lraC said:

I actually think it’s more than he fact that the hierarchy have let this happen, than the quality of the manager.

Its just another crazy turnover of managers, due to the failure of the club to back, those doing a decent job.

I sincerely hope we got 6 pints from the next 2 and it calms the nerves and he is given a chance, but he’s in a hiding to nothing. 

That might be the case but the suggestions to sack him after two games is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

[arbitro]

4 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Whether we like it or not, a 3 + year contract will ensure he gets every chance.

I just fear he may be the catalyst to hasten our demise.

You might be right, who knows but judging him after two matches is crazy.

[LeftWinger]

1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said:

..but my mate who played a high level of football said he was shocking, just lucky due to the COVID season.

Garth Crooks played a high level of football. It doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about 

[LeftWinger]

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

That might be the case but the suggestions to sack him after two games is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

And it's got some fairly ridiculous competition on here.

Absolute nonsense to want him out after 2 games.

[lraC]

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

That might be the case but the suggestions to sack him after two games is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

I fully agree, but I’m not one bit surprised at what is a clear over reaction, brought about by the crazy way the club is being run. 

[martonrover]

2 minutes ago, arbitro said:

You might be right, who knows but judging him after two matches is crazy.

I agree, although saying that we wanted to win “too much” is pretty stupid.

At the end of the day, it’s not his fault we appointed him.

 

[simongarnerisgod]

ismael is`nt going to get much time before the fans turn imo,a lot of them have already made their mind up about him,lose to cardiff next saturday and it confidence in him will really evaporate,he have to face the fact we were never going to get in the playoffs,the club don`t want to be there and will kill any attempt

we`ve got to give him a chance,lots of us slated eustace when he first arrived and we got some shocking performances before he turned it round

[Waggy76]

11 minutes ago, martonrover said:

I agree, although saying that we wanted to win “too much” is pretty stupid.

At the end of the day, it’s not his fault we appointed him.

 

No it is not , you are quite right but I think most of us know , why we did !

[RTM08]

6 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

ismael is`nt going to get much time before the fans turn imo,a lot of them have already made their mind up about him,lose to cardiff next saturday and it confidence in him will really evaporate,he have to face the fact we were never going to get in the playoffs,the club don`t want to be there and will kill any attempt

we`ve got to give him a chance,lots of us slated eustace when he first arrived and we got some shocking performances before he turned it round

Eustace was taking over a team in freefall, Ismaeel is taking over a team that was (albeit falsely) in the top 6, that had won 2 of 3 under the caretaker. 

This is our "easy" run of fixtures, with some much more difficult games to come, and we're putting in some of the worst performances we have all season.

The players look lost and we're just lucky we have points on the board, because I'll be very surprised if we don't proceed to get battered for the rest of the season.

[Exiled_Rover]

37 minutes ago, arbitro said:

That might be the case but the suggestions to sack him after two games is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

I'd suggest it's mainly because very few were happy with the appointment in the first place, the results have tanked (and the players seem to have downed tools) and he has almost no track record of success to quell our fears.

The fans will quickly turn on him.

[chaddyrovers]

agreed with @arbitro comments. People need to give him a chance just like they did with JDT, Mowbray and Eustace. 

Its been 2 games FFS and some of the comments on here are truly embarrassing yet again. Judge Ismael on his spell here and not at fucking Barnsley. far too people judge people on other people opinions. 

[arbitro]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

I'd suggest it's mainly because very few were happy with the appointment in the first place, the results have tanked (and the players seem to have downed tools) and he has almost no track record of success to quell our fears.

The fans will quickly turn on him.

I'm not sure tanked is the correct description for the two games without the context of us losing four out of Eustace's last five league games. We were poor today which Ismael acknowledged and drew last week came back after conceding a 90th minute goal to equalise and with ten men. I'm struggling with your 'players seemed to have downed tools' quote.

I accept that many didn't want him and I wasn't particularly enamoured with the appointment but for anybody to suggest sacking him after two games is a ridiculous notion.

[Penwortham Blue]

48 minutes ago, arbitro said:

That might be the case but the suggestions to sack him after two games is one of the most ridiculous things I've read on here.

I made the point today, for me, I wasn’t unhappy with his appointment, especially given the names linked. I also said before and after the Swansea match, that anyone being appointed should be for the remainder of the season only and if he has been appointed for the stipulated 3 year term without an end of season break, he has been set up to fail and absolute further proof of the cretins running the club ! We have 4,000 season full paying ST holders, if we go on a run that sees us slip in to mid table, who the hell will have any faith in VI and what further damage will that do to ST sales. Our club will die as a result of this.

[arbitro]

2 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

I made the point today, for me, I wasn’t unhappy with his appointment, especially given the names linked. I also said before and after the Swansea match, that anyone being appointed should be for the remainder of the season only and if he has been appointed for the stipulated 3 year term without an end of season break, he has been set up to fail and absolute further proof of the cretins running the club ! We have 4,000 season full paying ST holders, if we go on a run that sees us slip in to mid table, who the hell will have any faith in VI and what further damage will that do to ST sales. Our club will die as a result of this.

That's pretty much it.

The name on the managers door may change but the real issue is still very much there and they are getting away pretty much Scott Free. If only the voluble chants today aimed at Eustace could have been directed at Waggott and Pasha. 

[DE.]

For this season, we needed someone to come in, hit the ground running and have an instant impact. Not easy, but that was the requirement (from the fans, not from the higher ups, they couldn't care less). We haven't seen that at all, so it's already looking like this is a failure of an appointment. We needed to see an immediate reaction and it isn't there.

However, he obviously isn't being sacked after two games and nor should he. I think suggestions of this are just people venting and quite rightly angry over how the club is being repeatedly screwed over by the people in charge.

Predicting how he'll fare next season is tough. If we exclude the Stoke game, Eustace didn't get his first win until his 10th match in charge - which is insane really, even taking into account that we'd been struggling before he came in. Can't imagine many of us genuinely believed Eustace would get us into playoff contention this season.

Eventually Venky's luck will run out though, insofar as hiring out of work managers and having them perform minor miracles. JDT had an aura about him. Eustace had done well with Birmingham before being booted for Rooney. Ismael... lasted less than a year at Watford before being sacked after one win in ten games. Fair to say this may be the one that doesn't work out.

[martonrover]

1 minute ago, arbitro said:

That's pretty much it.

The name on the managers door may change but the real issue is still very much there and they are getting away pretty much Scott Free. If only the voluble chants today aimed at Eustace could have been directed at Waggott and Pasha. 

I said it before the game. I’m sorry, but these people are thick. 

Pasha and Waggott will have been delighted.

[metalrover]

Not optimistic about Ismael getting much out of this squad of players. 2 games in charge, performance had been crap, players are not reacting to this new manager. 

Can't help feeling we are re-entering the pre Mowbray days.

Edited 10 hours ago by metalrover

[Forever Blue]

So we went 2 down in 7 minutes cos the players ‘wanted it too much’ and maybe ‘cramped up’.

That’s up there with ‘dew on the pitch’.

He’s a bad ‘un…..I can feel it in me bones!

[RoversClitheroe]

8 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

So we went 2 down in 7 minutes cos the players ‘wanted it too much’ and maybe ‘cramped up’.

That’s up there with ‘dew on the pitch’.

He’s a bad ‘un…..I can feel it in me bones!

Mental comments 😂.

[lraC]

10 hours ago, Penwortham Blue said:

I made the point today, for me, I wasn’t unhappy with his appointment, especially given the names linked. I also said before and after the Swansea match, that anyone being appointed should be for the remainder of the season only and if he has been appointed for the stipulated 3 year term without an end of season break, he has been set up to fail and absolute further proof of the cretins running the club ! We have 4,000 season full paying ST holders, if we go on a run that sees us slip in to mid table, who the hell will have any faith in VI and what further damage will that do to ST sales. Our club will die as a result of this.

That is the crux of it really. Whether the appointment was right or not, only time will tell, but it surely would have been easy enough to just appoint him, or someone else, for the rest of the season. 

[Mattyblue]

How many jobs come up for a team in the play off places for a spot in the Premier League with a dozen games to go?

Not bloody many, so think of the options in jobs or otherwise , the agents putting their man’s CV’s in, the rising stars in England or overseas, so get out there and bring in a top operator to secure that top 6… yet they give this mon a deal to 2028, bet he couldn’t believe his luck (especially as we certainly don’t bother getting players tied down to such contracts).

Another let’s say, ‘odd’ decision at VenkyRovers…

[Hasta]

For me he looked a bad appointment on paper. Him and Karanka were my two definite no’s from when they were linked. Therefore I’m not surprised questions are being asked so early after no wins. Remember we were told that being in the top 6 and a chance for instant glory was a big selling point of the job. Therefore when we finish 10th or similar I don’t want it dressed up as “yeah but what did you expect”. 
 

Ultimately Eustace was let down by no quality being brought in, and ending January weaker in midfield than we started it. Ismael now has to play the same hand (albeit he has Travis and Tronstadt fit). It’s Waggot, Suhails and the owners fault Eustace isn’t here and ultimately their fault if we go backwards from here. VI would be just an effect of those three.

[London blue]

11 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

agreed with @arbitro comments. People need to give him a chance just like they did with JDT, Mowbray and Eustace. 

Its been 2 games FFS and some of the comments on here are truly embarrassing yet again. Judge Ismael on his spell here and not at fucking Barnsley. far too people judge people on other people opinions. 

Ok, he's been shit.

[BigHoz]

Tbf to big val we’ve won 4 in 16ish? Great start to the season and ultimately injuries and fitness has took its toll, that’s where the club comes into play during the Jan window and they have simply failed to back the squad and manager. 
 

freebies, loans, and spending less than 1million bringing x amount of players isn’t backing for a team flying in the playoffs in my opinion (very cushy spot) with only 1-2 teams close to catching us, although 1-2 will disagree as they believe the squad has been back 😂😂)the inevitable has happened, we’ve been caught, we’re out of form and dropping down slowly, and now it’s more 2 out of 10 can hit that play off spot and unfortunately it won’t be rovers. 
 

Fully expected abit of a manager bounce tho and it’s pretty worrying how the lads have responded since he’s come in charge. 

[BankEnd Rover]

Eustace had a poor start under us and if it wasn't for the catastrophic 7minutes we probably would have come away with something yesterday so it's daft to write a manger off so soon. 
Slight worry that in both games there's been no identity in play...Hopefully that will come. 

This nonsense that players won't be playing for him is hilarious...That may come over time if result continue but the bloke has just come in.

We will see a response but ultimately it will be too late (it already is).

 

 

Edited 3 hours ago by BankEnd Rover