Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach

[joey_big_nose]

4 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Not a chance he was only on £5k per week.

He must have been on something between £10k and £15k based on the figures banded around over the compensation.

Yeah agreed, no way Eustace would have taken 5k a week. My guess is the manager budget has been pretty much the same through Mowbray, JDT, Eustace and Ismael. 

[mustard]

7 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Not a chance he was only on £5k per week.

He must have been on something between £10k and £15k based on the figures banded around over the compensation.

How long was left on his contract?  18 months or so?

 

edited bad maths out

Edited 5 hours ago by mustard

[joey_big_nose]

Just now, mustard said:

How long was left on his contract?  18 months or so?  18 x 5 puts it around the compo figure.

Yeah but there are four weeks a month so you need to times that by 4.

[MB Rover]

Not overly under or even over whelmed, just whelmed, similar to when we appointed Eustace. Not a bad appointment for me, sacked after 1 win in 10 at WBA, but Eustace had 2 in 13 was it before he left us? It happens in this league. I’m just glad it wasn’t the Adkins/Pearson/Grayson I was fearful of us getting!

[neophox]

Where's his assistand head coach or own staff?

Whitehead should be coming.

Omer Riza is now head coach for Cardiff so wont be coming.

[den]

Unlike a few previous appointments, he’s coming in at a good time. We’re very well placed and now we need that extra boost to lift us for just a couple of months.

Currently that’s all that matters. Go for it Valerian.

[roversinmyblood]

Like every new Rovers manager, I’ll support them until they don’t deserve to be supported. I wasn’t sure of Eustace at first, but look how he turned out. I guess we shouldn’t just dismiss a new manager as rubbish, as I am prone to do, just because he has had winless runs of form. Look at Eustace last season and recently, yet we nearly all wanted him to stay. 
I wish him luck and his management style might be successful in the short term at least, which with 12 games remaining is all that we need. If his downfall is when we’re in the Premiership I for one will take that. 

[JHRover]

1 hour ago, neophox said:

Where's his assistand head coach or own staff?

Whitehead should be coming.

Omer Riza is now head coach for Cardiff so wont be coming.

I believe that part of his attractiveness to the regime will be that he won't have many demands when it comes to his own staff and that the current establishment behind the scenes will be brought further into the fold than they were under Eustace, where other than Benson the others were rarely seen and apparently sidelined. The regime will want to ensure they are front and centre again.

[TimmyJimmy]

2 hours ago, rigger said:

If a player isn't willing to work hard, I would get rid and get someone in, who is. That is just my personal opinion, it may be wrong, but it is what I think.

Come on Piccaso get them still lifes cranked out, no time to waste on excellence 🤣  Maybe ARTE and Labore?  I liked Wagstaff. And yes I have had a very boozy lunch.

[Mercer]

5 hours ago, ossyian said:

Waggy and Gordon Taylor with Hird and Bailey the flying full backs. Was a real joy to watch

Waggy had a wand of a left foot to go with his football intelligence - just a bit of a mystery why he never played for one of the 'big boys'.  To think Jim Iley jettisoned him for a washed-up Johnny Aston.

4 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’ve seen them all since 1961 and the two Mikes were the best pair of wingers we’ve had in all that time. Mike Ferguson and Mike Harrison. The perfect combination of real pace in Harrison and ball playing trickery in Ferguson. 

Great pity Harrison didn't have Fergie's heart and aggression otherwise he would have been a world beater - what a penalty taker!!! 

4 hours ago, rog of the rovers said:

Hoping Ismael becomes the most successful Rovers manager that has a last name beginning with I

Jim Iley and Paul Ince - lamentable company for sure

Hope this is not the kiss of death - Iley was an honest lad but totally incompetent (in the Ince / Kean 'class').  Never forgave him for losing Waggy. 

2 hours ago, mustard said:

Bit of info I got that came from a very reputable source, which would have probs been better off in the manager search thread…

But Eustace on £5k pw here, Derby offered £15k.  He was also asked by the board to play signings made by the club in summer and Jan at the expense of players already at the club.  JE asked them to match Derby wages but obvs they told him to get stuffed.

Bit worrying and I’d hope that VI won’t be selecting his team based on anything but what’s best to win games but who knows.  Could explain why Buckley been dropped for Forshaw lately.  Apparently academy grad players been told to expect less game time.  This was a couple weeks ago.

Anyways don’t shoot the messenger but this is info coming direct from the inside the club apparently.

Nothing would surprise me with our, IMO, shambolic club and management.  Too many cooks spoil the broth and too many egos and legends in their own minds. 

[KentExile]

49 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I believe that part of his attractiveness to the regime will be that he won't have many demands when it comes to his own staff and that the current establishment behind the scenes will be brought further into the fold than they were under Eustace, where other than Benson the others were rarely seen and apparently sidelined. The regime will want to ensure they are front and centre again.

I think you are right, and the below quote seems to indicate that Sheron and Butler will also be promoted to first team duties, so can we maybe expect Lowe as assistant manager?

“We must also say a big thank you to David Lowe, Damien Johnson, Ben Benson, Mike Sheron and Paul Butler for all their support during the interim period and they will form part of Valérien’s backroom staff at the Senior Training Centre going forward.”

Edit - apparently Sheron & Butler are back with the U21s

 

Edited 2 hours ago by KentExile

[USABlue]

4 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Waggy had a wand of a left foot to go with his football intelligence - just a bit of a mystery why he never played for one of the 'big boys'.  To think Jim Iley jettisoned him for a washed-up Johnny Aston.

Great pity Harrison didn't have Fergie's heart and aggression otherwise he would have been a world beater - what a penalty taker!!! 

Hope this is not the kiss of death - Iley was an honest lad but totally incompetent (in the Ince / Kean 'class').  Never forgave him for losing Waggy. 

Nothing would surprise me with our, IMO, shambolic club and management.  Too many cooks spoil the broth and too many egos and legends in their own minds. 

Waggy was a hell of a player.  Football was fun then.

[Paul Mellelieu]

3 minutes ago, USABlue said:

Waggy was a hell of a player.  Football was fun then.

You were young then.

[USABlue]

Just now, KentExile said:

I think you are right, and the below quote seems to indicate that Sheron and Butler will also be promoted to first team duties, so can we maybe expect Lowe as assistant manager?

“We must also say a big thank you to David Lowe, Damien Johnson, Ben Benson, Mike Sheron and Paul Butler for all their support during the interim period and they will form part of Valérien’s backroom staff at the Senior Training Centre going forward.”

Let's get Benson outta here and get us a goalkeeping coach who was....,well, a goalkeeper.

I think Pears reverting to norm after a good spell is due to the fact that Pears does not see.any competition from Toth.  Ainsley upped his game when we brought in a back up once Pears.saw.how.shit the back up was.and no threat to his spot he relaxed again.

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, USABlue said:

Let's get Benson outta here and get us a goalkeeping coach who was....,well, a goalkeeper.

I think Pears reverting to norm after a good spell is due to the fact that Pears does not see.any competition from Toth.  Ainsley upped his game when we brought in a back up once Pears.saw.how.shit the back up was.and no threat to his spot he relaxed again.

Its not happening

Benson, Lowe & Johnson have jobs for life at Rovers, as has been evidenced by them surviving a procession of managers/head coaches

Edited 3 hours ago by KentExile

[Exiled_Rover]

Just now, KentExile said:

Its not happening

Benson, Lowe & Johnson have jobs for life at Rovers

They've got to be the biggest Venky fans going.

They'd be the first three out the door if we were ever sold. 

[Exiled in Toronto Mk2]

46 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Waggy had a wand of a left foot to go with his football intelligence - just a bit of a mystery why he never played for one of the 'big boys'.  To think Jim Iley jettisoned him for a washed-up Johnny Aston

Wolves WERE a top club while Waggy was there: league cup winner, Uefa cup finalist, top 5 finishes - the surprise is he was turning out for us a few years later.

[Mercer]

10 minutes ago, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

Wolves WERE a top club while Waggy was there: league cup winner, Uefa cup finalist, top 5 finishes - the surprise is he was turning out for us a few years later.

Wolves were a very decent outfit but my recollection is the 1970's were dominated by Liverpool, Arsenal and Leeds with only Derby, Forest and Ipswich enjoying some top 3 success.

[harryhealless1928]

 Re interview :comes across as quite tough and not a lot like Eustace.

Whether his style works is anyones guess. Very interesting to see team selections(presumably guided a bit by Lowe)

. If its all about effort and commitment rather than skill then could be better for Travis & Dolan than Buckley & Cantwell. We shall see.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Mercer said:

Waggy had a wand of a left foot to go with his football intelligence - just a bit of a mystery why he never played for one of the 'big boys'.  To think Jim Iley jettisoned him for a washed-up Johnny Aston.

Great pity Harrison didn't have Fergie's heart and aggression otherwise he would have been a world beater - what a penalty taker!!! 

Hope this is not the kiss of death - Iley was an honest lad but totally incompetent (in the Ince / Kean 'class').  Never forgave him for losing Waggy. 

Nothing would surprise me with our, IMO, shambolic club and management.  Too many cooks spoil the broth and too many egos and legends in their own minds. 

Yeah, Mike Harrison was built like a taller and faster Mark Hughes with a shot like a rocket. As you say he didn’t relish the rough stuff unfortunately. Fergie could fight fire with fire.

[bigbrandjohn]

One thing is for sure. After wasting hours trawling through new manager clickbait, I am feeling like a schoolboy waiting for the sweet shop to open on Saturday. 

Hope I am not disappointed,  as they have run out of gobstoppers. 

[StHelensRover]

Dean Whitehead confirmed as #2