Realistic thoughts on the future

[chaddyrovers]

31 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Why? How could they be worse than the current lot?

I feel a need to remind you of a few facts as it seems that you are now reverting to the old 'but who would buy us' routine, of course potential buyers are not going to waste their time and play their hands going public about their ability/willingness to buy Rovers when they are up against a stubborn refusal to even speak about a sale. Why do you, and others, think that new owners would avoid a Championship Blackburn Rovers, one promotion away from the PL, yet would get involved with all those other clubs?

No I am NOT reverting to any type at all, but after this ownership I will be very cautious and watchful of any new owners without knowing who they are, what their plans are, are the funding the club, etc

I HAVEN'T said anywhere we aren't attractive proposal for any potential buyer, but what I have said that any new owner has to be prepare to spend £30m plus in their first year including cover the debt, bringing in their own management team, new commercial strategy, plus many other things. 

I think we would be attractive proposal for UK potential buyers and American potential buyers but I will be cautious 

31 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Here's a quick list of clubs in England that have changed ownership/control in the last 10-15 years of Venky destruction of Rovers:

Everton, Man Utd, Aston Villa (twice), Wolves, Newcastle, Leicester, Southampton (twice), Forest (twice), Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Bournemouth, Fulham

Non-PL clubs:

Burnley, Blackpool, Bolton (twice), Wigan (twice), Stockport, Salford, Wrexham, Port Vale, Burton, Chesterfield, Mansfield, Notts County, Sheffield Utd (twice), Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Huddersfield (twice), Leeds (twice), Hull, Sunderland (twice), Norwich, Ipswich, MK Dons, Coventry, Birmingham (twice), West Brom, Swansea, Newport, Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Reading (soon to be twice), Wycombe (twice), QPR, Portsmouth, Gillingham, Carlisle, Morecambe, Accrington, Charlton (twice), Leyton Orient, Lincoln, Cambridge, Oxford (twice)

I know all that thanks, You should know that I know this given that I am massive Rovers fans but also massive football fan given my posting on this forum for many years 

[Ferrit]

31 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Quite a few are falling out of love with football. I remember thinking during that Norwich game recently - “ If football had have been like this when I was a kid would I have got interested in watching and then playing ? “ Possibly not.

The boring possession based tactics, play acting and diving, the crazy wages, games on at stupid times, the death of the FA Cup etc etc. 

I speak to guys at the Rugby League that I played with and against who were football daft back then. They haven’t been to a football match in years.

100% agreed with this, football in general (especially PL) gets less interesting every year. Everyone wants to play the same way, officiating is in the toilet, the cheating is the worst its ever been.

I watch the Championship (because Rovers) and thats about it, and the odd game down Bamber Bridge. 

[J*B]

4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

If we sold 0 STs it would make no odds to them, they’d just instruct Swaghail to cut elsewhere to make up the shortfall.

We’ve gone from c20,000 ST holders to the nadir (so far) in 2021/22 of 6,995 - they didn’t bat an eyelid. 

And he’d make the cuts, so we’d go down. The following year the same would happen. It will repeat until we’re so low in the English league that the club isn’t viable. At which point administrators will come in, someone will buy us and we start again. 

The above is happening whether people buy tickets or not. It’s simply a case of how long it takes. Helping fund Venkys is prolonging it, that’s all. 

[Mattyblue]

If you see that happening fair enough, I see them letting it limp on, the losses get smaller as we down size, get shut of the academy and on and on it goes - you can’t  put normal business sense on to these owners.

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, J*B said:

And he’d make the cuts, so we’d go down. The following year the same would happen. It will repeat until we’re so low in the English league that the club isn’t viable. At which point administrators will come in, someone will buy us and we start again. 

The above is happening whether people buy tickets or not. It’s simply a case of how long it takes. Helping fund Venkys is prolonging it, that’s all. 

you funding Rovers not Venkys JB. 

I take it from that you aren't a STH then Josh? 

[roversfan99]

10 minutes ago, J*B said:

And he’d make the cuts, so we’d go down. The following year the same would happen. It will repeat until we’re so low in the English league that the club isn’t viable. At which point administrators will come in, someone will buy us and we start again. 

The above is happening whether people buy tickets or not. It’s simply a case of how long it takes. Helping fund Venkys is prolonging it, that’s all. 

The further we fell, the smaller the losses become as it doesnt cost as much as sustaining a Championship club. So administration becomes even less likely.

[Crimpshrine]

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

These owners aren’t going anywhere at least this decade, so a few would return, but most have long gone (and why wouldn’t they after at least twenty years  away, many will have found many different things to do with their time and money, and alas plenty will have popped their clogs if nothing else)

I am slightly more hopeful that Venky's may be tempted to sell in the not too distant future.

They have obviously decided not to put any money in if they can possibly avoid it. The club is being run on a self funding basis at the moment. I am hoping ( and praying ) that when that is no longer possible and we need £20 million per year investment again then they will say enough is enough - especially if they have to match the funding with the same amount as a bond in India.  That will be a big decision for them.

We can try and expedite the process by holding off on buying season tickets to reduce income over the summer.

Maybe our 150th birthday can be liberation day too. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

12 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Just wondering what other supporters thoughts were on the future. Do we have any light at the end of the tunnel or have we regressed so much that we will never be that solid premier team again that we all crave. Not saying miracles but a Brighton/bournemouth type. 
 

im really worried as not only have the taps been turned off player recruitment wise but with the contract situation with all squad and a gamble of a manager appointment it seems like they are dousing the house in petrol just ready to set alight. 
I think unless we get more transfer backing than I am imagining right now then we are certain for relegation next year. It’s really really hard being a fan of this club just now, everything is so frustrating and bleak , I have heard a good few that have had enough and won’t renew season tickets, I can’t blame them but just where does it turn for us or does it? 

One glaring ultimate problem at this Club...Venkys.

They dont appear to be going away anytime soon,we could be saying the same things,asking the same questions in another fifteen years from now.

Let that sink in.Grim stuff.

Edited yesterday at 11:06 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[lraC]

21 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

If we sold 0 STs it would make no odds to them, they’d just instruct Swaghail to cut elsewhere to make up the shortfall.

We’ve gone from c20,000 ST holders to the nadir (so far) in 2021/22 of 6,995 - they didn’t bat an eyelid. 

From what I have heard, they did bat an eyelid this year and some pressure was applied for the numbers sold.

I am not suggesting it did any good, but they definitely pushed back on it.

[Mattyblue]

Ok, and what? What are they doing about crap sales apart from doubling Swag’s wages?

Edited yesterday at 10:53 by Mattyblue

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34 minutes ago, Ferrit said:

100% agreed with this, football in general (especially PL) gets less interesting every year. Everyone wants to play the same way, officiating is in the toilet, the cheating is the worst its ever been.

I watch the Championship (because Rovers) and thats about it, and the odd game down Bamber 

"Bamber Bridge fc, fuckin hate chorleyyyy allez allez allez....."

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A gradual decline in everything will be death of the club. They need to leave soon before we sink too low in the leagues only chance of serving as a club and being competitive 

[roverandout]

Biggest town club in England 

[47er]

24 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

I am slightly more hopeful that Venky's may be tempted to sell in the not too distant future.

They have obviously decided not to put any money in if they can possibly avoid it. The club is being run on a self funding basis at the moment. I am hoping ( and praying ) that when that is no longer possible and we need £20 million per year investment again then they will say enough is enough - especially if they have to match the funding with the same amount as a bond in India.  That will be a big decision for them.

We can try and expedite the process by holding off on buying season tickets to reduce income over the summer.

Maybe our 150th birthday can be liberation day too. 

Would they wreck us for spite do you think? I wouldn't discount anything with that lot.

It will come to a crunch at some point though, you're right there, they can't kick the can down the road forever

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

2 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Biggest town club in England 

Run by the biggest tossers in Football.

[J*B]

45 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

you funding Rovers not Venkys JB. 

I take it from that you aren't a STH then Josh? 

Venkys fund Rovers. By funding Rovers, you’re funding Venkys.

I have a flexi ST because I liked what Eustace was doing. It won’t be renewed next year. 

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17 minutes ago, 47er said:

Would they wreck us for spite do you think? I wouldn't discount anything with that lot.

It will come to a crunch at some point though, you're right there, they can't kick the can down the road forever

I can't see them wrecking us out of spite that wouldn't gain them anything let alone financially.

Let's just face it they are clueless. 

We are side business to them, like washing cars as a kid on a Saturday afternoon with your mates. 

[lraC]

1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

Ok, and what? What are they doing about crap sales apart from doubling Swag’s wages?

Probbably not a lot to be fair.

[chaddyrovers]

24 minutes ago, J*B said:

Venkys fund Rovers. By funding Rovers, you’re funding Venkys.

I have a flexi ST because I liked what Eustace was doing. It won’t be renewed next year. 

No Josh, I am funding my club Blackburn Rovers, showing any kind of potential owner that there is a fanbase here and worth buying us. 

And yes I be renewing my ST next season as I support BRFC and I loved going watching my team play. 

 

[The giorgis donis fanclub]

3 hours ago, ... said:

I just really really hope that those that have chosen to stay away return to Ewood Park once they have left and aren't past it

I'll  be back  tomorrow  with my youngest daughter when the venkyscum fuck off ,don't care what league were in. Thing is they WONT fuck off.......

[philipl]

Realistic?

Grim.

[Dan]

52 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No Josh, I am funding my club Blackburn Rovers, showing any kind of potential owner that there is a fanbase here and worth buying us. 

And yes I be renewing my ST next season as I support BRFC and I loved going watching my team play. 

 

Do you not go anymore? 

[davulsukur]

2 hours ago, lraC said:

From what I have heard, they did bat an eyelid this year and some pressure was applied for the numbers sold.

I am not suggesting it did any good, but they definitely pushed back on it.

Surprises me that, all the actions they've taken since the summer have been inline with reducing season ticket sales further

[lraC]

20 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Surprises me that, all the actions they've taken since the summer have been inline with reducing season ticket sales further

It surprises me too, but of course the chances are the owners think it is just another business, where the customers just buy the product, irrespective of the quality.

[davulsukur]

6 minutes ago, lraC said:

It surprises me too, but of course the chances are the owners think it is just another business, where the customers just buy the product, irrespective of the quality.

I appreciate they are well out of touch (and fucking useless) but you would imagine that if they've acknowledged the concern over season ticket sales, they would have tried to rectify it. Edit: sorry i tried to apply logic to Venkys, my bad.

I have no idea how the people in charge of our club haven't put us out of business already tbh.

Edited yesterday at 13:46 by davulsukur