Realistic thoughts on the future

[lraC]

1 minute ago, davulsukur said:

I appreciate they are well out of touch (and fucking useless) but you would imagine that if they've acknowledged the concern over season ticket sales, they would have tried to rectify it. I have no idea how the people in charge of our club haven't put us out of business already tbh.

It really is a mystery and I wish, I knew the answer.

At least we would them be able to understand, what this has all been about.

[Crimpshrine]

2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Ok, and what? What are they doing about crap sales apart from doubling Swag’s wages?

The owners were very disappointed with Season ticket income for this season.  It is one thing they definitely keep an eye on and expect to it increase each year.

Waggott and Fraser Reid where responsible for ST sales at that time. Reid is no longer at the club and Pasha has been put in charge of all financial issues regarding club income. This was when his title was changed to COO. Waggott is concentrating on 'other things'.

Pasha and Safir are now in charge of season ticket sales. Whatever policy they come up with, the owners will be demanding a much better return than last time around.  Pasha will be feeling the pressure from Pune.

If everyone holds off on buying a season ticket until the last minute ( if at all ) it will really get him rattled. 

 

[Bbrovers2288]

It’s absolutely unclear what they are getting out this, they aren’t football people , they haven’t tried to break the uk market with their chicken, so what is it. If you have a car that keeps costing you money and you’re not a car person , why would you keep it? 

[lraC]

4 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

The owners were very disappointed with Season ticket income for this season.  It is one thing they definitely keep an eye on and expect to it increase each year.

Waggott and Fraser Reid where responsible for ST sales at that time. Reid is no longer at the club and Pasha has been put in charge of all financial issues regarding club income. This was when his title was changed to COO. Waggott is concentrating on 'other things'.

Pasha and Safir are now in charge of season ticket sales. Whatever policy they come up with, the owners will be demanding a much better return than last time around.  Pasha will be feeling the pressure from Pune.

If everyone holds off on buying a season ticket until the last minute ( if at all ) it will really get him rattled. 

 

I really do think it is massively important that they don't draw (a diminishing few) in with the offer of an early bird etc.

One think I have thought of is maybe a fans campaign, based on the centenary, as it a concerted effort to rid us of the owners and bring people back for one day only, to show new potential owners, what the real potential is at Ewood.

Once the fixtures are out and we know the home game, closest to the anniversary of the formation of the club, then a fans takeover, with the theme operation fill Ewood for Uncle Jack and maybe even include a tribute centenary retro shirt with 1 Jack Walker on the back, but sold and manufactured, independent of the club.

JACK the season tickets in and WAKER to Ewood, fill his statue with flowers and let the football world know how proud we are of what he did and make the anniversary date, one of real significance.

[Mattyblue]

They want to hit an arbitrary revenue target, not get bums on seats. So £400+ in the Riverside incoming, ST Holder numbers ergo nosedive, no bums on seats, no revenue target hit, Ewood becomes even more desolate … but hey at least Suhail gets a bollocking.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Relegation in the next 2 or 3 seasons. Then becoming a mid ranking team in League 1. After that, who knows? As a pessimist I'll expect flirting with League 2. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

1 hour ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

It’s absolutely unclear what they are getting out this, they aren’t football people , they haven’t tried to break the uk market with their chicken, so what is it. If you have a car that keeps costing you money and you’re not a car person , why would you keep it? 

This.

Are supporter Groups asking the questions that need to be asked,is enough pressure being applied?

Its just a Wall of silence that appears unbreachable and has been since they took their awful tenure.There is just zero interaction or communication between them and the supporter base.

Does any other Football Club in this Country suffer from this Malaise,would any Business treat its Customers with such contempt?

We appear to just take it on the Chin every Season.

Edited Monday at 15:41 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[TugaysMarlboro]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

you funding Rovers not Venkys JB. 

I take it from that you aren't a STH then Josh? 

Can I ask how funding Rovers is not funding Venkys?

[roverblue]

I renewed last season based on the pressure of the early bird offer and the fact we were going to build a squad with the Wharton/Raya/Szmodic cash.

Instead we got shafted, I wrote to the club before the season started for a refund but they were having none of it.

I was 100% on relegation this season with the squad we have, it's a miracle we aren't down there and that's thanks to Eustace.

I won't be going next year and imagine plenty others in the same boat, until some serious investment is made in the team or we get new owners.

The way I see it now as every penny I give the club is just giving the Venkys more of a reason to stick around and/or not invest anything. The squad will be grim next season after more contracts end and we accept bids for anyone still worth anything (Travis, Brittain etc.)

[den]

1 hour ago, Crimpshrine said:

The owners were very disappointed with Season ticket income for this season.  It is one thing they definitely keep an eye on and expect to it increase each year.

Waggott and Fraser Reid where responsible for ST sales at that time. Reid is no longer at the club and Pasha has been put in charge of all financial issues regarding club income. This was when his title was changed to COO. Waggott is concentrating on 'other things'.

Pasha and Safir are now in charge of season ticket sales. Whatever policy they come up with, the owners will be demanding a much better return than last time around.  Pasha will be feeling the pressure from Pune.

If everyone holds off on buying a season ticket until the last minute ( if at all ) it will really get him rattled. 

 

Just shows to me how little they understand Rovers fans. 
 

there’s only one way to increase attendances and that’s by sustained success on the pitch. Once fans become disillusioned about the club they leave. It doesn’t matter what price season tickets are. When they leave, they’re gone. They won’t come back. Trying to entice youngsters to come down to Ewood to replace those elapsed fans - rather than be armchair Man U fans again relies on success on the pitch. That doesn’t happen overnight either.

Wish John Williams was here. He understood the fans. The worst single decision Venkys ever made was to allow him to leave rather than listen to him.
 

Edited Monday at 15:54 by den

[davulsukur]

The only certainty for the future is that we will never be successful under these owners.

[miqaayil]

10 hours ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

We all want venkys to sell up more than anything else but then my fear is- are we worth buying? We aren’t in a particularly desirable area like a London club, we don’t have a large catchment area for a fan base , loads of other options around unlike say a Newcastle. Jack walkers are one in a million to the likes of us, it’s just not great. Do genuinely wonder when it will be fun to support this team again if ever 

YES we are...BRFC has a pre-established branding ...club with history , winning premier league and most importantly we have been shitted on and dismantled to obscurity by the current clowns .... and for any buyer its a rescue job ...a knight in shining armor situation and media loves it... so sovereign investment loves this kind of publicity but they need clean accounts ...minimal debts 

 

but the current clowns can't exit as they can't write off the shenanigans and skeletons in closet. They can't and will not payoff the instrument from SBI where this whole circus is funded. its a can they kicking every year down the road. 

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, Crimpshrine said:

The owners were very disappointed with Season ticket income for this season.  It is one thing they definitely keep an eye on and expect to it increase each year.

Waggott and Fraser Reid where responsible for ST sales at that time. Reid is no longer at the club and Pasha has been put in charge of all financial issues regarding club income. This was when his title was changed to COO. Waggott is concentrating on 'other things'.

Pasha and Safir are now in charge of season ticket sales. Whatever policy they come up with, the owners will be demanding a much better return than last time around.  Pasha will be feeling the pressure from Pune.

If everyone holds off on buying a season ticket until the last minute ( if at all ) it will really get him rattled. 

 

If their plan is to put the prices up again, there won't be many buying season tickets at all, let alone at the last minute

[chaddyrovers]

I expect ST prices to be around £300 for the early bird offer and then move up to £375 after 6 weeks of the early bird. They also keep Children prices cheap as chips. 

3 hours ago, Dan said:

Do you not go anymore? 

I go every home league game. 

1 hour ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

Can I ask how funding Rovers is not funding Venkys?

Cos my ST money plus other money I spend at the club is paying for staff employed by the club, Its not going to the owners. 

[jim mk2]

1 hour ago, roverblue said:

The way I see it now as every penny I give the club is just giving the Venkys more of a reason to stick around 

Never understood this line.

I support the team in blue and white halves, not the owners, or the manager, or anyone else

I was here decades before the owners came and (hopefully) I'll still be here when they've eventually gone

Staying away and crowds dwindling to zero doesn't guarantee the owners will leave unfortunately, and only serves to damage the club in the long term 

 

[roversfan99]

Cheaper season tickets and we will see about potential assurances given to the new manager coming to fruition.

Naive in the extreme.

Of course any money going to the club is going to the owners. Thats not a criticism of anyone putting money into the club and I dont agree with people especially who dont live in the country suggesting that they shouldnt. But the staff etc will get paid either way, if you put say £500 in a year thats £500 less for the owners to subsidise.

[JHRover]

23 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I expect ST prices to be around £300 for the early bird offer and then move up to £375 after 6 weeks of the early bird. They also keep Children prices cheap as chips. 

I go every home league game. 

Cos my ST money plus other money I spend at the club is paying for staff employed by the club, Its not going to the owners. 

We don't do 'early bird' because we don't get them released early enough. If they are on sale before the end of this season I'll be very surprised and that leaves insufficient time in May/June/July to run a proper early bird process. The time for that is February to May.

Your pricing would require a substantial reduction across the board. 

Have you seen or heard anything at Rovers in the last 10 years to think that they are going to slash prices? I haven't. 

What we will get is the old Waggott favourite of strings attached to an offer whereby if you commit 'early' e.g. within a few weeks of them being on sale and hand over your money in June then you'll get a £25 discount. The idea here is to force the regulars worried about losing their seats to buy early and then they are committed before the summer firesales and negligent recruitment gets underway and they can't then back out,

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2 hours ago, lraC said:

I really do think it is massively important that they don't draw (a diminishing few) in with the offer of an early bird etc.

One think I have thought of is maybe a fans campaign, based on the centenary, as it a concerted effort to rid us of the owners and bring people back for one day only, to show new potential owners, what the real potential is at Ewood.

Once the fixtures are out and we know the home game, closest to the anniversary of the formation of the club, then a fans takeover, with the theme operation fill Ewood for Uncle Jack and maybe even include a tribute centenary retro shirt with 1 Jack Walker on the back, but sold and manufactured, independent of the club.

JACK the season tickets in and WAKER to Ewood, fill his statue with flowers and let the football world know how proud we are of what he did and make the anniversary date, one of real significance.

THIS.

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3 hours ago, lraC said:

I really do think it is massively important that they don't draw (a diminishing few) in with the offer of an early bird etc.

One think I have thought of is maybe a fans campaign, based on the centenary, as it a concerted effort to rid us of the owners and bring people back for one day only, to show new potential owners, what the real potential is at Ewood.

Once the fixtures are out and we know the home game, closest to the anniversary of the formation of the club, then a fans takeover, with the theme operation fill Ewood for Uncle Jack and maybe even include a tribute centenary retro shirt with 1 Jack Walker on the back, but sold and manufactured, independent of the club.

JACK the season tickets in and WAKER to Ewood, fill his statue with flowers and let the football world know how proud we are of what he did and make the anniversary date, one of real significance.

 

[chaddyrovers]

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Cheaper season tickets and we will see about potential assurances given to the new manager coming to fruition.

Naive in the extreme.

Well that's opinion on ST Prices. You couldn't even answer the question whether you purchase one or not last summer. How naive of yourself IMO. 

11 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Of course any money going to the club is going to the owners. Thats not a criticism of anyone putting money into the club and I dont agree with people especially who dont live in the country suggesting that they shouldnt. But the staff etc will get paid either way, if you put say £500 in a year thats £500 less for the owners to subsidise.

No its going to Rovers as I said several time FFS RF99. 

The owners aren't putting money into the club. Another point you and others are missing 

Also I can say now, I will be renewing my ST and the others are aswell. If you are ST, are you renewing yours I wonder 🤔

.

[lraC]

1 minute ago, ... said:

 

Perfect.

We could make it a bonfire theme too.

Fireworks, flowers for Jack. A huge crowd with as many Uncle Jack shirts worn as possible.

A rocket up the arse for the owners, a guy Fawkes with a Pasha mask on and a big bonfire to throw guy on.

Food drinks, treacle Toffee, Parkin, maybe hosted at the Fernhurst.

Lets get this publicised. 

[chaddyrovers]

11 minutes ago, JHRover said:

We don't do 'early bird' because we don't get them released early enough. If they are on sale before the end of this season I'll be very surprised and that leaves insufficient time in May/June/July to run a proper early bird process. The time for that is February to May.

Your pricing would require a substantial reduction across the board. 

Have you seen or heard anything at Rovers in the last 10 years to think that they are going to slash prices? I haven't. 

What we will get is the old Waggott favourite of strings attached to an offer whereby if you commit 'early' e.g. within a few weeks of them being on sale and hand over your money in June then you'll get a £25 discount. The idea here is to force the regulars worried about losing their seats to buy early and then they are committed before the summer firesales and negligent recruitment gets underway and they can't then back out,

Didn't they slashed prices last season by £30 for adult, plus reduced children ST to 23 pounds, a pound a game. Bargain. Not agree? 

It's a £50 pounds reduction.

I hope the announce the ST Prices around mid April until end of May/mid June. for an early bird offer

They released prices for 22/23 season on the 22nd April 2022

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16 minutes ago, lraC said:

Perfect.

We could make it a bonfire theme too.

Fireworks, flowers for Jack. A huge crowd with as many Uncle Jack shirts worn as possible.

A rocket up the arse for the owners, a guy Fawkes with a Pasha mask on and a big bonfire to throw guy on.

Food drinks, treacle Toffee, Parkin, maybe hosted at the Fernhurst.

Lets get this publicised. 

Penny for the Guy.... saying that, I've spent enough for the "Guys"

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17 minutes ago, lraC said:

Perfect.

We could make it a bonfire theme too.

Fireworks, flowers for Jack. A huge crowd with as many Uncle Jack shirts worn as possible.

A rocket up the arse for the owners, a guy Fawkes with a Pasha mask on and a big bonfire to throw guy on.

Food drinks, treacle Toffee, Parkin, maybe hosted at the Fernhurst.

Lets get this publicised. 

I feel like this would be something to head for, got best part of a year to plan something special

[Dan]

57 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I expect ST prices to be around £300 for the early bird offer and then move up to £375 after 6 weeks of the early bird. They also keep Children prices cheap as chips. 

I go every home league game. 

Cos my ST money plus other money I spend at the club is paying for staff employed by the club, Its not going to the owners. 

Sorry I miss understood, I thought you said you loved going, so assumed you meant you’d stopped.