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16 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wrong, I don't but I dont have a problem with clubs picking their head coach appointment based on their squad and what style they play. Just like I agree with the head coach only getting involved in transfers at the players shortlist stage and not before hand. Yes the head coach should pick the target from the shortlist present to him from the recruitment/scouting department.Β 

Right, thanks for answering the question. My question was based around United appointing Amorim mid season with a squad that doesn't suit him.Β 

Ismael played possession based football at Watford and Besiktas

So why wouldn't not appoint a head coach in the first place who suits the players in the first place?Β 

He was crap at Watford. No idea if he played that way at Beskitas but wasnt there long either. So as I said, in English football his only successful spell was playing long ball. So why was he appointed here anyway but especially if they "want" to play possession football.

Its one thing appointing someone who tends to play a way that suits the type of player you have. And another thing telling him he has to play in a certain way. Thats what is backwards.

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1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

He was crap at Watford. No idea if he played that way at Beskitas but wasnt there long either. So as I said, in English football his only successful spell was playing long ball. So why was he appointed here anyway but especially if they "want" to play possession football.

Gestede and Waggott have said why they appointed and the reasons. I'm sure you have heard and read them

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Its one thing appointing someone who tends to play a way that suits the type of player you have. And another thing telling him he has to play in a certain way. Thats what is backwards.

So you honestly think Ismael was appointed then told he has played this way after his appointment? really?Β 

All this was discussed and agreed before he his appointment.Β 

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39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Gestede and Waggott have said why they appointed and the reasons. I'm sure you have heard and read them

So you honestly think Ismael was appointed then told he has played this way after his appointment? really?Β 

All this was discussed and agreed before he his appointment.Β 

I presume he was told beforehand, still doesnt make it logical.

Their "reasons" were clearly flawed.

Posted (edited)
21 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Have we? In his last 2 jobs played 4-2-3-1 and mostly played 4-2-3-1 in the first 6 games here.Β 

Next season he might go to back 3 formation if he still here. I wouldnt play back 3 formation as my preference is 4-2-3-1.Β 

My point being, that rather making use of the players he's got and adopting a playing style to suit, instead he's banging on about transforming the squad in the summer to suit some other style which he wants.

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Yep, the exact reason you wouldn't hire a manager with a totally different philosophy. Someone had better tell Suhail Β£4.5m won't fund a new team..... Clowns.

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Posted

league one journeymen,a couple of **** loans and a fewΒ  of our "not so vintage" crop of academy players will make up our starting 11 next august,when the markets first come out and before the bookies start taking notice,id`e advise anyone to get a fair whack on rovers going down

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20 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

My point being, that rather making use of the players he's got and adopting a playing style to suit, instead he's banging on about transforming the squad in the summer to suit some other style which he wants.

He hasn't wanted to change too much from the Eustace's style at the start. The problem is the team was set up to win 1 nil. Very rare did we ever come back to win to draw or win after going behind. That is not a criticise of previous head coaches but that is fact of what the situation was

We need to created more chances and hopefully we can do that.Β 

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5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

He hasn't wanted to change too much from the Eustace's style at the start. The problem is the team was set up to win 1 nil. Very rare did we ever come back to win to draw or win after going behind. That is not a criticise of previous head coaches but that is fact of what the situation was

We need to created more chances and hopefully we can do that.Β 

He changed everything?

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On 08/04/2025 at 14:50, chaddyrovers said:

He hasn't wanted to change too much from the Eustace's style at the start. The problem is the team was set up to win 1 nil. Very rare did we ever come back to win to draw or win after going behind. That is not a criticise of previous head coaches but that is fact of what the situation was

We need to created more chances and hopefully we can do that.Β 

You’re deluded beyond belief pal

He changed a lot from the very first game against Norwich. The players were confused and positionally we were all over the place.Β 

The guy needs time admittedly, anyone would struggle with the chaos above him. Similar to Eustace last season who was awful at first.

He’s obviously been asked to play a certain way by Rudy and hasn’t got the players to do it currently. Also creating chances means very little when you’re giving the opposition a 2 goal start on a regular basis.

Posted (edited)

My predictions for the summer:

- Brittain, Travis and Tronstad will refuse to sign new contracts due to the spectacular implosion this season. In order to avoid another disaster (i.e. losing out on transfer fees like they did on Brereton Diaz), club has to seriously consider selling & replacing all three before window shuts.Β 

- Dolan will leave for another club in Championship, probably Derby should they stay up.

- Cantwell is likely to hand in a transfer request or try to force himself out in some fashion. Also doesn't look the type of player that fits into Ismael's "plans".

- Don't think neither Forshaw nor Weimann will be offered new contracts unless they are willing to lower their wages.

If you ask me, club pretty much needs to sign a whole starting XI to compensate for all the imminent and upcoming departures. You can bet that the primary targets will be cheap loans and freebies at the start of the window to then try to get a last-minute deal for some mediocre player before it closes. If they couldn't offer Eustace any guarantees, what makes one believe that Ismael will be handed any transfer money all of sudden? It's just naivety/wishful thinking as always.

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On 08/04/2025 at 14:50, chaddyrovers said:

He hasn't wanted to change too much from the Eustace's style at the start. The problem is the team was set up to win 1 nil. Very rare did we ever come back to win to draw or win after going behind. That is not a criticise of previous head coaches but that is fact of what the situation was

We need to created more chances and hopefully we can do that.Β 

Hasn't wanted to but somehow has. We aren't tough to beat, throwing bodies on the line, defensively sound, as we were under JE.

He even got Pears looking good, who had now reverted to type as a waste of fucking space.

We are nothing like we were under JE.

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Posted
On 07/04/2025 at 19:41, Gamst said:

The club/Ismael peddling this idea that the summer rebuild is somehow exciting is so disingenuous. How many million would we need to invest to completely rebuild and be competitive next season? 20 million minimum I would think. Considering we haven’t spent more and a million on a player for years this will never happen and Β a rebuild on a shoestring is what we can expect. Avoiding relegation would be a miracle. Who are the youth players that are ready to fill some of the gaps next season? Β Journalists need to ask these questions. This is more an evisceration than a rebuild and you’d have to be utterly stupid to buy into their faux enthusiasm.Β 

Fresh start syndrome!

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2 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Hasn't wanted to but somehow has. We aren't tough to beat, throwing bodies on the line, defensively sound, as we were under JE.

He even got Pears looking good, who had now reverted to type as a waste of fucking space.

We are nothing like we were under JE.

Steady on now, let's not get carried away.Β 

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3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Hasn't wanted to but somehow has. We aren't tough to beat, throwing bodies on the line, defensively sound, as we were under JE.

He even got Pears looking good, who had now reverted to type as a waste of fucking space.

We are nothing like we were under JE.

Need to go to Specsavers.

Posted

Gestede talking about summer window, usual guff about needing to sign a bunch of player, and that we will probably have to sell too.

Interesting that he corrected himself from "reinvest" from player sales to "some money perhaps" (paraphrasing).

Also said we won't have a budget of 15-20 million like other teams because "we aren't that club anymore". Why? The owners can afford it, we have the FFP leeway? Why can we as fans not expect to have a competitive budget just because they can't be bothered anymore?

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Posted (edited)

I would get Dilan back for next season and also sign Charlie Kelman from Leyton Orient 17 goals from the 23 year old striker.Β 

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Posted
1 hour ago, DutchRover said:

Gestede talking about summer window, usual guff about needing to sign a bunch of player, and that we will probably have to sell too.

Interesting that he corrected himself from "reinvest" from player sales to "some money perhaps" (paraphrasing).

Also said we won't have a budget of 15-20 million like other teams because "we aren't that club anymore". Why? The owners can afford it, we have the FFP leeway? Why can we as fans not expect to have a competitive budget just because they can't be bothered anymore?

We probably have to sell AGAIN?Β 

Where did the Wharton, Szmodics, Kaminski, Raya money go, Rudy?

You certainly haven't reinvested much of it into the squad.

He's a clown of the highest order. We're in massive, massive trouble with him making any decisions.

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