... Posted Wednesday at 11:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 11:58 3 minutes ago, ... said: Our day will come mate. I can't wait and I genuinely hope people come out in their thousands. The Return To Ewood. Really, we should plan for that day now. Make it something special Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lraC Posted Wednesday at 13:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:21 This has been a huge own goal and a missed opportunity. How about this, which I know is now too late and will have fallen on deaf ears. Operation fill Ewood Given the special year in the history of Blackburn Rovers football club, we have a new and exciting offer, that, we hope the fans will get behind. The aim is to sell 12,000 adult season tickets at £150 per person, but in order to ensure the funds are still available for the clubs plans, we have a plan to ensure that we meet a minimum target, hence the 12,000 adult tickets. Our proposal is an initial pledge to buy and we request that a payment of £50 is made and this will be deducted form the £150 if the numbers are met. The deadline for this, will be 01/05/2025. Once pledged, no refund will be made if the target is met, as we will expect the £100 remaining payment is then made and the season ticket will be allocated. In the event of the numbers not being met, then the option is to claim a full refund, or the payment can be used to buy at the normal prices. For each adult ticket purchased, so long as the target of 12,000 is met, an option to purchase up to 2 children's tickets for £30 each will be offered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkBRFC Posted Wednesday at 13:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:26 Far too complicated for any of the idiots here unfortunately. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyonejackwalker Posted Wednesday at 13:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:29 4 minutes ago, lraC said: This has been a huge own goal and a missed opportunity. How about this, which I know is now too late and will have fallen on deaf ears. Operation fill Ewood Given the special year in the history of Blackburn Rovers football club, we have a new and exciting offer, that, we hope the fans will get behind. The aim is to sell 12,000 adult season tickets at £150 per person, but in order to ensure the funds are still available for the clubs plans, we have a plan to ensure that we meet a minimum target, hence the 12,000 adult tickets. Our proposal is an initial pledge to buy and we request that a payment of £50 is made and this will be deducted form the £150 if the numbers are met. The deadline for this, will be 01/05/2025. Once pledged, no refund will be made if the target is met, as we will expect the £100 remaining payment is then made and the season ticket will be allocated. In the event of the numbers not being met, then the option is to claim a full refund, or the payment can be used to buy at the normal prices. For each adult ticket purchased, so long as the target of 12,000 is met, an option to purchase up to 2 children's tickets for £30 each will be offered. 12,000 x £ 150.00 = £ 1.8 million. 5000 x £ 400.00 = £ 2 million. Less police, concourse, safety, cleaning and general infrastructure costs with only 5000 attending. Whilst I like your train of thought, the owners want maximum income and minimum expense. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted Wednesday at 13:37 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:37 7 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: 12,000 x £ 150.00 = £ 1.8 million. 5000 x £ 400.00 = £ 2 million. Less police, concourse, safety, cleaning and general infrastructure costs with only 5000 attending. Whilst I like your train of thought, the owners want maximum income and minimum expense. That's the aim of the game unfortunately. Bums on seats for less or a core group of hardened fans for over twice the cost. No brainer. But a shitty no brainer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancaster Rover Posted Wednesday at 13:38 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:38 15 minutes ago, lraC said: This has been a huge own goal and a missed opportunity. How about this, which I know is now too late and will have fallen on deaf ears. Operation fill Ewood Given the special year in the history of Blackburn Rovers football club, we have a new and exciting offer, that, we hope the fans will get behind. The aim is to sell 12,000 adult season tickets at £150 per person, but in order to ensure the funds are still available for the clubs plans, we have a plan to ensure that we meet a minimum target, hence the 12,000 adult tickets. Our proposal is an initial pledge to buy and we request that a payment of £50 is made and this will be deducted form the £150 if the numbers are met. The deadline for this, will be 01/05/2025. Once pledged, no refund will be made if the target is met, as we will expect the £100 remaining payment is then made and the season ticket will be allocated. In the event of the numbers not being met, then the option is to claim a full refund, or the payment can be used to buy at the normal prices. For each adult ticket purchased, so long as the target of 12,000 is met, an option to purchase up to 2 children's tickets for £30 each will be offered. Morecambe did something very similar in their first season in League 1, there were 3 prices based on meeting season ticket sale numbers. Regardless to say they smashed all 3 targets and had their record ever ST sales with an average attendance over 4500, 2k more than their previous highest average! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted Wednesday at 13:43 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:43 14 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said: 12,000 x £ 150.00 = £ 1.8 million. 5000 x £ 400.00 = £ 2 million. Less police, concourse, safety, cleaning and general infrastructure costs with only 5000 attending. Whilst I like your train of thought, the owners want maximum income and minimum expense. We will not sell 5,000 adult tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted Wednesday at 13:45 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:45 6 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said: Morecambe did something very similar in their first season in League 1, there were 3 prices based on meeting season ticket sale numbers. Regardless to say they smashed all 3 targets and had their record ever ST sales with an average attendance over 4500, 2k more than their previous highest average! It just takes something like this, which I’m sure will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted Wednesday at 13:46 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 13:46 But what about Waggott's targets and remuneration? We need to remember at all times that the ONLY motivation here is maximising revenue, not because it helps the club but because it helps Waggott keep his job and maximise his own income by saving Venkys money. Nothing more to it than that. Filling Ewood, maximising numbers, encouraging new buyers, all sound good and logical at a normal club but not issues of concern here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted Wednesday at 13:49 Share Posted Wednesday at 13:49 2 minutes ago, JHRover said: But what about Waggott's targets and remuneration? We need to remember at all times that the ONLY motivation here is maximising revenue, not because it helps the club but because it helps Waggott keep his job and maximise his own income by saving Venkys money. Nothing more to it than that. Filling Ewood, maximising numbers, encouraging new buyers, all sound good and logical at a normal club but not issues of concern here. Based on the figures, I think the revenue will be higher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelton Blue Posted Wednesday at 14:21 Share Posted Wednesday at 14:21 There's no concept of 'speculate to accumulate' with this lot; they just play it safe every year by rinsing the loyal customer in order to hit the lowest revenue target that they can get away with. Absolutely no business acumen whatsoever. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arbitro Posted Wednesday at 15:15 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:15 I don't know if it's linked to the price hike or I might be giving Swag too much credit but next season there is likely to be a huge hole in the income from away fans at Ewood. With the likes of Leeds, Burnley, Sheffield United and Sunderland potentially not being in the Championship that could represent several hundred thousand pounds in revenue that has to be clawed back somehow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelton Blue Posted Wednesday at 15:19 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:19 2 minutes ago, arbitro said: I don't know if it's linked to the price hike or I might be giving Swag too much credit but next season there is likely to be a huge hole in the income from away fans at Ewood. With the likes of Leeds, Burnley, Sheffield United and Sunderland potentially not being in the Championship that could represent several hundred thousand pounds in revenue that has to be clawed back somehow Wait until the match ticket prices get unveiled; he'll also try and make up some of the shortfall that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomphil2 Posted Wednesday at 17:06 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:06 I've never bought into Waggots theory that they can't slash prices because they wouldn't sell enough to cover it, complete cop out nonsense. The figures we've seen of only 4k full adult tickets sold expose this there is no way we wouldn't double that paltry figure if they halved that price last season . However it might impact the full price match by match buyers and he doesn't want that it's the key to his thinking imo. Quite happy to have c4k match by match buyers over a season he's hitting his money income targets through them and away fans. We are back to his classic squeeze what you have agenda as was the way under TM that saw the ST base mostly decimate season on season before the desperate 'oh we better knock 20 quid off' token effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post roverblue Posted Wednesday at 17:42 Popular Post Share Posted Wednesday at 17:42 I genuinely don’t think they care about season tickets or fans in the ground. The fewer they sell the less staff and admin it all takes, police costs etc. Maybe they can even close some more stands and save a few quid there. The riverside where I sit is a shambles falling apart and massively understaffed to cater for anyone wanting a pie or pint at half time. Noticed they stuffed those in the Blackburn end as well with a price increase knowing full well it’s the most popular area. This is what Waggot does, take advantage of your loyalty and milk you for every penny he can. Nothing they do suggests they care about the fans or the team, only about saving a few quid. It’s only a matter of time till there is nothing left on the pitch or the stands with the lack of investment. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted Wednesday at 18:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:53 5 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said: 12,000 x £ 150.00 = £ 1.8 million. 5000 x £ 400.00 = £ 2 million. Less police, concourse, safety, cleaning and general infrastructure costs with only 5000 attending. Whilst I like your train of thought, the owners want maximum income and minimum expense. That's not how things work though. If you sell more tickets you've got more people there for repeat business, selling pints, pies, shirts etc. In short, you make more money by selling more tickets. You do need to have the most basic understanding of consumer economics and as is so blindingly evident, not one single person who works for the venky organisation possess such attributes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wheelton Blue Posted Wednesday at 19:53 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:53 2 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: I've never bought into Waggots theory that they can't slash prices because they wouldn't sell enough to cover it, complete cop out nonsense. The figures we've seen of only 4k full adult tickets sold expose this there is no way we wouldn't double that paltry figure if they halved that price last season . However it might impact the full price match by match buyers and he doesn't want that it's the key to his thinking imo. Quite happy to have c4k match by match buyers over a season he's hitting his money income targets through them and away fans. We are back to his classic squeeze what you have agenda as was the way under TM that saw the ST base mostly decimate season on season before the desperate 'oh we better knock 20 quid off' token effort. He's back!!! 👍 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipper1875 Posted Wednesday at 20:56 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:56 No thought what so ever about the season ticket sales - last summers sales and this mickey mouse half season ticket price they have once again learnt nothing. So they decide to put up the price of blackburn end the only stand who try and create an atmosphere - surely this should be £300 for the season ticket ???? Jack walker family stand should be £280 £300 for rest of jack walker riverside should be £250. Now the clowns are bringing in safe standing why not do what we did years ago a special price of no reserve seats £200 in darwen end like we did years ago worked a treat but in 2025 and the board we have they just see there own wage at end of month no interest in getting fans on seats Kids u16s should be £100/£80 u8s free with a paying adult like it use to be This club is so far away from the town and its fan base well and truely. Waggot did exactly the same at Charlton and Coventryyears ago, iv been saying it over n over again its an utter farse the clown can still be involved in football never mind still at rovers - 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugayslongwalkoff Posted Wednesday at 21:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:31 On 23/03/2025 at 08:43, chaddyrovers said: all depends on the reason, If they have moved away and then their children support their local team and then take them each game, I wouldn't be slagging them off for that would you? I moved to Belfast and started a family, my kids are Rovers fans, especially my boy. I just feel so gutted that we won’t be able to enjoy a team with any kind of success or excitement probably for another 20 years or more. depressing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex l Posted Thursday at 06:18 Share Posted Thursday at 06:18 Interesting article in the LT on ST prices across the division. Rovers pretty much have the cheapest or one of the cheapest offerings in each category. It doesn't take away from a missed opportunity re the anniversary year, but the conclusion I get is football at this level, like many concerts, is pricing a lot of working class people out 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted Thursday at 07:23 Share Posted Thursday at 07:23 (edited) 1 hour ago, alex l said: Interesting article in the LT on ST prices across the division. Rovers pretty much have the cheapest or one of the cheapest offerings in each category. It doesn't take away from a missed opportunity re the anniversary year, but the conclusion I get is football at this level, like many concerts, is pricing a lot of working class people out The thing to remember here, more than anything else is the number sold. The barometer, has to be this season. Other clubs sell a lot more than us, simple as that, so pricing at the level they have, possibly has little or no effect. With the numbers sold at Ewood this season, together with the shenanigans, these prices point to a further reduction. We won’t know if this is purely down to price or not, without using some sort of inventiveness and although I know it isn’t perfect, my suggestion in an earlier post, would at least test the water on that. From some of the responses, a similar scheme, at other clubs has proved to be successful, so why not give it a try? If as expected, there are less than 4,000 adult season tickets are sold, it should tell everyone, this there is something seriously wrong. Edited Thursday at 07:24 by lraC Typo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex l Posted Thursday at 07:56 Share Posted Thursday at 07:56 I fully agree that next season would be the one to try some sort of 'gimmick' to give ST sales a shot in the arm. But I also recognise there is a commercial aspect and the LT report highlights the cost across the division, which will encompass a broad range of local economics. It's a difficult balance for the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted Thursday at 08:00 Share Posted Thursday at 08:00 Fans buy season tickets for many reasons, I know plenty that still go for the social side more than the football, gets them out of the house, get on the ale, the football is very much secondary. Some go to spend time with family, carry on those family traditions, some only see certain people at football, I class myself as being in the bracket, we go for all manner of reasons. If you go to Ewood for purely footballing reasons, you want to see us win and get promoted for example, why on earth would you buy a season ticket after the past 4 seasons? 4 seasons that have seen our owners intentionally sabotage any hopes of progression? Seen us barely scrape relegation having just missed out on the playoffs. Seen us allow a manager to join a relegation candidate because they wouldn’t back him? I would never criticise anyone for going, its personal choice, but refusing to buy a season ticket is a protest in itself and my god its about time the fanbase protested. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post arbitro Posted Thursday at 08:02 Popular Post Share Posted Thursday at 08:02 1 hour ago, alex l said: Interesting article in the LT on ST prices across the division. Rovers pretty much have the cheapest or one of the cheapest offerings in each category. It doesn't take away from a missed opportunity re the anniversary year, but the conclusion I get is football at this level, like many concerts, is pricing a lot of working class people out Reading many of the posts on here and speaking to people I don't think the prices are the issue for many. There is severe disenchantment amongst many fans and the latest farce in January will have been the tipping point for more of them. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
47er Posted Thursday at 08:07 Share Posted Thursday at 08:07 (edited) 5 minutes ago, arbitro said: Reading many of the posts on here and speaking to people I don't think the prices are the issue for many. There is severe disenchantment amongst many fans and the latest farce in January will have been the tipping point for more of them. Given the number and significance of recent disasters the ticketing prices are akin to rubbing your nose in it. I agree fans wouldn't be so hostile to these prices if they knew they were going to get something out of it. But its once again a case of more and more for less and less. Edited Thursday at 08:08 by 47er 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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