Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted Friday at 21:01 Moderation Lead Posted Friday at 21:01 26 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said: A qoute from our great Leader Pash: " What do you want,£150 Season Tickets? " They simply dont get it. Carry on and we’ll do well to sell 150. Quote
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chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 09:03 Posted yesterday at 09:03 12 hours ago, Tomphil2 said: 157,000 people now in the borough of BBwD and a football club that used to average c22k home fans until this ownership began it's reign of nonsense. Always one of the best supported clubs in England from its locality but now can only manage 4k full adult over 23 season tickets. Yes they are a commercial disaster, the people are there the fans are still there as certain crowds at Ewood show but they don't matter anymore. The club has given up on it's own fans in favour of kiddies and fleecing its remaining hardcore, what other commercial managers in the country would ignore what it has on its own doorstep just so it can guarantee one level of income from c10k people every year ? Absolutely shocking but they just throw their hands in the air 'we've done all we can'. Rovers supporters aren't just from the Blackburn with Darwen area but from different areas all over Lancashire whether its Hyndburn, Ribble Valley, Chorley, Leyland, even Lancaster. Rovers should commercially reaching all these communities with us visiting schools, Kids football clubs, or even dropping leaflets off in these different areas, etc Quote
DeeCee Posted yesterday at 09:19 Posted yesterday at 09:19 13 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Rovers supporters aren't just from the Blackburn with Darwen area but from different areas all over Lancashire whether its Hyndburn, Ribble Valley, Chorley, Leyland, even Lancaster. Rovers should commercially reaching all these communities with us visiting schools, Kids football clubs, or even dropping leaflets off in these different areas, etc It takes effort and organisation, 2 things we very rarely contemplate never mind actually deliver. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 09:26 Posted yesterday at 09:26 5 minutes ago, DeeCee said: It takes effort and organisation, 2 things we very rarely contemplate never mind actually deliver. Its a someone having a plan and I think WATR have mentioned delivery leaflets in different areas where Rovers fans live and some fans would actually help the club and deliver them in their local area for them. Quote
DeeCee Posted yesterday at 09:32 Posted yesterday at 09:32 Just now, chaddyrovers said: Its a someone having a plan and I think WATR have mentioned delivery leaflets in different areas where Rovers fans live and some fans would actually help the club and deliver them in their local area for them. Who would be organising/printing the leaflets etc? You haven't thought this through. The Commercial Manager (promoted without experience) is too busy alienating sections of the fan base rather than performing the role he should be doing. 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted yesterday at 09:44 Moderation Lead Posted yesterday at 09:44 They should be doing so much, never mind so much more. Ultimately, it boils down to them finding reasons they can’t do things, instead of reasons they can. 2 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted yesterday at 09:56 Posted yesterday at 09:56 (edited) 53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Rovers supporters aren't just from the Blackburn with Darwen area but from different areas all over Lancashire whether its Hyndburn, Ribble Valley, Chorley, Leyland, even Lancaster. Rovers should commercially reaching all these communities with us visiting schools, Kids football clubs, or even dropping leaflets off in these different areas, etc Chorley has been lost to Bolton Wanderers and PNE now sadly due to lack of effort on the clubs behalf over the last decade. Plenty Rovers fans still in the area and lapsed fans but youngsters are leaning towards the other two now because they've been in schools over the last decade and guess what, they both reduced season ticket early birds at least 100 quid cheaper for adults than Rovers. Followed up by leaflet drops and adverts in local papers and it worked. When Rovers did good ST offers pre Venkys there were adverts on the sides of buses and taxis across the Preston and Chorley areas but under Waggots 'leadership' these areas are now ignored. He should have been all over it after promotion from league 1 and 25k home fans in v Oxford, that was the time to strike but no, nothing. Edited yesterday at 09:57 by Tomphil2 8 Quote
Popular Post Mercer Posted yesterday at 09:58 Popular Post Posted yesterday at 09:58 (edited) 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Rovers supporters aren't just from the Blackburn with Darwen area but from different areas all over Lancashire whether its Hyndburn, Ribble Valley, Chorley, Leyland, even Lancaster. Rovers should commercially reaching all these communities with us visiting schools, Kids football clubs, or even dropping leaflets off in these different areas, etc IMO, our product in the market place is sh1te ie our football, our results, our football management, our executive management and our ownership and as such, trying to grow and expand your supporter base is well-nigh impossible. The simple facts are under current ownership, we have gone from a top 8/10 Premier League club to a club that has not even reached the play-offs in 12 Championship seasons and even suffered the ignominy of being relegated to the third tier of English football during that time. In addition, under current ownership, our attendances have plummeted from an average of 25,000 (2010/11) to an appalling situation where on Tuesday night I would not think there were more than 5,000 Rovers' fans in the ground (I would love to see the official police numbers). To have just 4,000 adult season ticket holders this season is in my eyes an abysmal embarrassment and next season that number could conceivably be 50%+ LESS. IMO, we have seen a substantial dumbing down of management across the whole club and, sadly, the consequences are plain to see. Before you can even dream about rebuilding the fan base, the fundamentals of the football club need to be right. You need an ownership that lives and breathes ambition and passion and you need a management from top to bottom that also lives and breathes ambition and passion allied to huge doses of integrity and nous. Without change, I think we are beyond withering on the vine and we are close to dying on our knees. Edited yesterday at 10:05 by Mercer 16 Quote
Popular Post SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted yesterday at 10:06 Popular Post Posted yesterday at 10:06 (edited) Lets break it down...neither Bolton or Preston been anywhere near as successful as Rovers over the last 30 years.So it just goes to show how Pricing and initiatives sway the new fan...Hearts and Minds. We have failed miserably on that front since the Pune Loons took over and next Season we will pay the price with low attendances.All the hard work done by Jack Walker/John Williams to re-build the fanbase flushed down the Toilet...makes my Blood Boil!. This lot haven't got a Scooby Doo and tbh probably care not one iota.Shambles. Quote Edited yesterday at 10:14 by SIMON GARNERS 194 10 Quote
martonrover Posted yesterday at 10:30 Posted yesterday at 10:30 26 minutes ago, Mercer said: IMO, our product in the market place is sh1te ie our football, our results, our football management, our executive management and our ownership and as such, trying to grow and expand your supporter base is well-nigh impossible. The simple facts are under current ownership, we have gone from a top 8/10 Premier League club to a club that has not even reached the play-offs in 12 Championship seasons and even suffered the ignominy of being relegated to the third tier of English football during that time. In addition, under current ownership, our attendances have plummeted from an average of 25,000 (2010/11) to an appalling situation where on Tuesday night I would not think there were more than 5,000 Rovers' fans in the ground (I would love to see the official police numbers). To have just 4,000 adult season ticket holders this season is in my eyes an abysmal embarrassment and next season that number could conceivably be 50%+ LESS. IMO, we have seen a substantial dumbing down of management across the whole club and, sadly, the consequences are plain to see. Before you can even dream about rebuilding the fan base, the fundamentals of the football club need to be right. You need an ownership that lives and breathes ambition and passion and you need a management from top to bottom that also lives and breathes ambition and passion allied to huge doses of integrity and nous. Without change, I think we are beyond withering on the vine and we are close to dying on our knees. Yes, exactly right. The most important factor is the product on the pitch, and if that isn’t right there is little hope of attracting new supporters. Add to that the toxic atmosphere, which is solely the club’s fault, and it makes leaflet drops a waste of paper. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 10:37 Posted yesterday at 10:37 43 minutes ago, DeeCee said: Who would be organising/printing the leaflets etc? You haven't thought this through. The Commercial Manager (promoted without experience) is too busy alienating sections of the fan base rather than performing the role he should be doing. That has to come from Rovers commercial department in terms of organising , the leaflets shouldn't be problem given there is a local company who does printing leaflets and their CEO is a die hard Rovers fan. Some Rovers fans would help Rovers distribution and delivery them for the club for free. 19 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said: Chorley has been lost to Bolton Wanderers and PNE now sadly due to lack of effort on the clubs behalf over the last decade. Plenty Rovers fans still in the area and lapsed fans but youngsters are leaning towards the other two now because they've been in schools over the last decade and guess what, they both reduced season ticket early birds at least 100 quid cheaper for adults than Rovers. Followed up by leaflet drops and adverts in local papers and it worked. When Rovers did good ST offers pre Venkys there were adverts on the sides of buses and taxis across the Preston and Chorley areas but under Waggots 'leadership' these areas are now ignored. He should have been all over it after promotion from league 1 and 25k home fans in v Oxford, that was the time to strike but no, nothing. but those areas still have Rovers fans there and its about engaging with them and asking what it would take to get them back either as STH or Match day buyer. Rovers still be doing this. Our children prices are cheap as chips whilst some Rovers fans think the adult price is too much or too many matches moved or other reasons. Rovers should be smarter and clever by knocking £150 pounds off last year price as special price for our 150 years anniversary and get fans on board and more buying ST's Quote
Tomphil2 Posted yesterday at 10:44 Posted yesterday at 10:44 (edited) If you're a kid in Chorley you need an adult to take you to Blackburn Rovers 12 miles away and they will have to pay full price. That's an issue. The Ewood Express should extend from Blackburn right across the Brinscall, Chorley, Euxton. Whittle, Bamber Bridge and even Leyland areas. Edited yesterday at 10:44 by Tomphil2 6 Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted yesterday at 10:47 Posted yesterday at 10:47 9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: That has to come from Rovers commercial department in terms of organising , the leaflets shouldn't be problem given there is a local company who does printing leaflets and their CEO is a die hard Rovers fan. Some Rovers fans would help Rovers distribution and delivery them for the club for free. but those areas still have Rovers fans there and its about engaging with them and asking what it would take to get them back either as STH or Match day buyer. Rovers still be doing this. Our children prices are cheap as chips whilst some Rovers fans think the adult price is too much or too many matches moved or other reasons. Rovers should be smarter and clever by knocking £150 pounds off last year price as special price for our 150 years anniversary and get fans on board and more buying ST's The powers that be have done all they can Chadster.😲 1 Quote
martonrover Posted yesterday at 11:58 Posted yesterday at 11:58 (edited) " Hey, you, how about buying a season ticket to watch us flounder around in the Championship, and enjoy the accompanying toxic atmosphere". NURSE!!!! Edited yesterday at 12:04 by martonrover 1 Quote
rigger Posted yesterday at 12:24 Posted yesterday at 12:24 24 minutes ago, martonrover said: " Hey, you, how about buying a season ticket to watch us flounder around in the Championship, and enjoy the accompanying toxic atmosphere". NURSE!!!! And some still will. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted yesterday at 12:57 Posted yesterday at 12:57 32 minutes ago, rigger said: And some still will. called backing the team and club, if you don't want to fine but please STOP digging at STH and match day fans 2 Quote
Mattyblue Posted yesterday at 13:18 Posted yesterday at 13:18 Backing the team, fair enough. I’m not sure what ‘the club’ even is anymore. 5 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 9 hours ago, K-Hod said: They should be doing so much, never mind so much more. Ultimately, it boils down to them finding reasons they can’t do things, instead of reasons they can. Whether you think you can or you think you can’t - you’re right. Quote
M_B Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 hours ago, rigger said: And some still will. Never in doubt. 2 Quote
JHRover Posted 7 hours ago Author Posted 7 hours ago They have decided, or have convinced themselves in a desperate bid to find an excuse to justify their non-efforts, that areas outside of Blackburn with Darwen are 'off limits' due to some supposed rule of the League that we can't market our club in other rival clubs towns. Yes it's that crazy, it is nonsense, even if it was true, which it isn't, it would probably break numerous laws, yet the executive at Rovers hide behind it because it is an easy and ready made excuse to throw out there to cover for their laziness and small minded approach. That way they can just focus everything on BWD, makes everything so much easier. Which is why we have the ludicrous situation of Accy Stanley going into schools and marketing themselves in places like Rishton and Ossy, and nothing at all from Rovers. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago (edited) For Blackburn Rovers to have a less of a profile in BB1 Rishton of all places than possibly soon to be back in non-league Stanley and probably the Dingles too sums up the wilful neglect of this regime. Edited 7 hours ago by Mattyblue 5 Quote
Tomphil2 Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago In terms of adult fans they don't even want to make an effort with people on their own doorstep. I'd wager the majority of match by match adult buyers over a season come from the borough so what over the years has been done to try and get these people buying ST's ? Nowt, because Waggot prefers a decent number paying full whack rather than guarantee their money and attendance at a cheaper rate. I suspect the years of neglect and 'come if you want to' attitude will come back to bite next season especially if the summer business and form are bad. Short term planning only ever delivers brief gains but long term it backfires when luck runs out. Quote
Mattyblue Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago (edited) Not sure the majority will be from BwD anymore, the demographic change in Blackburn has been enormous the last twenty years. One look at the data will tell them that far more of the fanbase will have non-Blackburn post codes then ever before, yet they still don’t lift a finger outside the borough. Just arbitrary drawn lines on a map, it doesn’t define support areas, daft thing is if the council borders hadn’t been re-drawn in the 1970s, Darwen would still be a separate borough, so would we not bother there either as to not ‘trod on Darwen FC’s patch?’ Edited 6 hours ago by Mattyblue Quote
martonrover Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 21 hours ago, rigger said: And some still will. I respect whatever decision people make in respect of whether to buy a season ticket / home match tickets. However, anyone who does is helping to maintain the status quo, and propping up this horrible regime. 1 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Matty is right and I agree that I would bet majority of Rovers fan base is outside the BwD area Quote
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