v Middlesborough (h) - 4/4/2025

[Torgeir]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:21, cesus said:

Two words... John Eustace

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Form dropped off once Trav got injured and then Tronstad. 

 

[alcd]

Hedges is absolute dog shit. I never seen an attacking player with less end product. 

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:13, broadsword said:

Can't see the manager resigning

 Long contract, he'll want paying up.

Can't see us sacking him because we can't afford to. 

 

If he's still here November time, we're toast. I said December before, but I'm rapidly revising my prediction. I think November is being generous though. October more realistic

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Oh yes, he's clearly an odious individual. He'll only leave when every penny we owe him has been paid. 

[joey_big_nose]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:15, Exiled_Rover said:

It is about money though - not so much "why aren't the owners putting £20m in every year, the tight sods" and more "why do the owners employ absolute clowns who run the club into the ground - to the point where they had to take out a payday loan to stay solvent". 

When Mowbray was here I said it was literally the best job in football as a manager - zero pressure from above (they were deliriously happy with mid-table finishes) and a decent Championship budget to splurge on whatever you wanted (£12m on two wide CFs? Why not).

With the right leadership in place we could almost be self sufficient - the Wharton / Szmodics / Raya / Kaminski money could have been used to reload the squad like Boro and Hull do (y'know, selling assets to acquire more saleable assets!). Instead it's all been put towards running costs, and then they wonder why the 31st Academy player to run out for us in 5 years and the freebie they picked up from a team in a relegation scrap in January isn't up to scratch.

We're dead in the water now without new ownership - an A. Wharton doesn't come along every Academy cycle. 

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Well I would say the bigger issue than Waggot, Suhail etc (though they are clowns and I would heartily like them all to leave) is I doubt they have a clue whats going on themselves. We could bring back John Williams but ultimately he would be working with ownership who are unavailable and unengaged so any clarify about the future is totally unachievable. In those circumstances how does anyone succeed.

Really without Venkys going everything else is meaningless in my opinion.

[rigger]

People are worried about a lot of our players being out of contract. After that performance I wouldn't give any of them a contract.

[Forever Blue]

‘The performance was there’ - Dismal. 
 

 

Edited Saturday at 18:09 by Forever Blue

[Forever Blue]

He’s just blaming injuries.

Edited Saturday at 18:08 by Forever Blue

[G Somerset Rover]

Ismael throwing every single slither of blame on injuries. 

[roversfan99]

Embarassing yet again. Shit players. Terrible manager. Run by a dismal board.

But all symptoms of the absolute scum we have as owners.

[cesus]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:23, Torgeir said:

Form dropped off once Trav got injured and then Tronstad. 

 

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It did, 2 pivotal players in Eustace's system. I'll go back to my original comment, I have absolutely no idea what this managers plan/system is.

[47er]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:25, rigger said:

People are worried about a lot of our players being out of contract. After that performance I wouldn't give any of them a contract.

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Be careful what you wish for.

[Torgeir]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:11, 47er said:

The same sort of people who are buying Carlisle! People with money who want a challenge.

Don't fall for this guff, are you saying we have to have Venkys forever?

We'll die anyway if we do.

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Where are Carlisle in the table?

[Torgeir]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:28, Forever Blue said:

He’s just blaming injuries. Twat. 

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He can't blame the players so has to say something. Five defeats in a row... at least we know which division we'll be in next season Rudy...

[47er]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:31, Torgeir said:

Where are Carlisle in the table?

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They are at the bottom and that's why the challenge appealed to the new owners.At least they have hope, we'll have to see how it ends.

What exactly are you saying? Getting a new owner might not pay so Venkys should stay?

Bizarre if so.

[DanielMB]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:24, alcd said:

Hedges is absolute dog shit. I never seen an attacking player with less end product. 

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Dolan?

[Andy]

Fair play to Chris Ilumumomomo, or whatever he's called - the host was going down the sympathy route for VI.

But he was correct in saying that the results speak for themselves.

And the players look lost/confused on the pitch, no purpose or direction.

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:24, joey_big_nose said:

Well I would say the bigger issue than Waggot, Suhail etc (though they are clowns and I would heartily like them all to leave) is I doubt they have a clue whats going on themselves. We could bring back John Williams but ultimately he would be working with ownership who are unavailable and unengaged so any clarify about the future is totally unachievable. In those circumstances how does anyone succeed.

Really without Venkys going everything else is meaningless in my opinion.

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1990s John Williams I hope - he'd have to be in his 80s by now.

A good CEO would be given a budget every year and work towards it - as far as I'm aware they're not hands-on enough to change the budget mid-season. The A. Wharton sale (for example - and a good CEO wouldn't have sold him in January to the first bidder!) would have been reinvested into the squad, with some held back for running costs and a rainy day.

Suhail and Waggott are content to strip the club back to the bare bones then seem surprised when things fall apart. 

[rigger]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:30, 47er said:

Be careful what you wish for.

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It's too late for that.

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:29, G Somerset Rover said:

Ismael throwing every single slither of blame on injuries. 

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The First XI was as good as teams Eustace fielded for most of the year. The bench was perhaps slightly weaker - but Eustace wasn't conceding goals within 3 minutes every week. 

[DeeCee]

Total wank.

[alcd]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:21, Paul Mellelieu said:

Sky is Boro TV.

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Sky appear utterly incapable of finding studio guests for Rovers matches who are not either ex-Burnley or have a strong link with the opposition. It's as if Rovers have no former players. Sad. 

[alcd]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:36, DanielMB said:

Dolan?

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Agreed. And that's why the attack is so blunt. 

[G Somerset Rover]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:44, alcd said:

Sky appear utterly incapable of finding studio guests for Rovers matches who are not either ex-Burnley or have a strong link with the opposition. It's as if Rovers have no former players. Sad. 

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Iwelumo(?) was decent tbf. Backed us fans a fair bit.

[Exiled_Rover]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:44, alcd said:

Sky appear utterly incapable of finding studio guests for Rovers matches who are not either ex-Burnley or have a strong link with the opposition. It's as if Rovers have no former players. Sad. 

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Ours appear to be all over the BBC and Talkshite - Sutton, Shearer, Savage, Warnock, Murphy...

[NeilInBristol]

  On 04/04/2025 at 21:24, Exiled_Rover said:

Oh yes, he's clearly an odious individual. He'll only leave when every penny we owe him has been paid. 

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He ain't going anywhere. No one wanted him when he was available and now he has a contract. And a 0% win rate! No one wants him