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[glen9mullan]

Good Morning All,

Certainly been an exhausting couple of weeks on the back of 15 exhausting years.

What we do next is very much shaped by you, the club's supporter base.

1. What's the desired end game.

2. What's the compromise position.

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date.

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday.

5. Do you want to get more involved.

Keeping traction can become difficult if we take foot off gas but at the same time being measured and precise prevents own goals.

It's certainly not easy in a large working group, lots of opinions and conversations sometimes wander off which loses focus and days pass by.

How can you help?

Share the messages, share the tweets. 

We need to be better at communicating than the club , always one step ahead and always firmly risk accessed to create the desired outcome.

My inbox always open, always willing to meet up for a chat too or take a phone call.

It's really you, that will shape our direction

 

 

[StHelensRover]

For me personally, the end game would be a statement from the club confirming that we are for sale and that they will consider any sensible approaches.

Anything less than that for me is unacceptable at this point and a waste of time. Rearranging deckchairs. Issues about season tickets, playing staff, coaching staff and the rest can all be addressed by a new regime and just distract from the main goal of new owners.

Some might say there is a compromise position where we agree to support the current regime subject to certain guarantees, but I'm afraid I could not accept this, given the last 15 years, that track record of failure is too substantial. 

On how you guys have worked in the last few months, I would have to say well done, it has been very effective. It's jolted the directors out of their smug lull and forced a response and seems to have played out how you hoped and expected, keep going 👌

On the interviews yesterday, there isn't much I can say other than that it was empty platitudes, false promises and highly unconvincing.

On a side note, I still cannot understand why so many people still back/trust/ignore the ownership regime and bite back at those who want a fresh start. I don't know what it would take for those people to turn? For us to be in league two? Worse?

Edited yesterday at 08:43 by StHelensRover

[K-Hod]

17 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Good Morning All,

Certainly been an exhausting couple of weeks on the back of 15 exhausting years.

What we do next is very much shaped by you, the club's supporter base.

1. What's the desired end game. Venky's Out.

2. What's the compromise position. Venky's Out.

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date. Spot on.

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday. Said a whole lot, without actually saying anything at all.

5. Do you want to get more involved. Fundamentally yes, just unsure how or what I could do.

Keeping traction can become difficult if we take foot off gas but at the same time being measured and precise prevents own goals.

It's certainly not easy in a large working group, lots of opinions and conversations sometimes wander off which loses focus and days pass by.

How can you help?

Share the messages, share the tweets. 

We need to be better at communicating than the club , always one step ahead and always firmly risk accessed to create the desired outcome.

My inbox always open, always willing to meet up for a chat too or take a phone call.

It's really you, that will shape our direction

 

 

Thoughts above.

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Also can we keep this thread true to facts, sticking to what we know things to help the movement. Info can get lost at times when people waffle about get them out! Etc. Bullet points if need be?

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Could it be promoted stay behind for the players at the end of the game? At the end of the day it's not fair on them, ok if they underperform we can be disgruntled naturally but at they trying times they deserve our support as I'm sure off pitch situations are affecting them. One mistake on the pitch their heads could drop if we arent behind them. Just thoughts that's all

[Exiled_Rover]

1. What's the desired end game. New owners.

2. What's the compromise position. In the past I would have said new CEO / DoF / Manager / Whatever Suhail's role is - but we've done that once and it hasn't worked. It's also clear from the interviews conducted yesterday that the owners want us to be self sufficient, which clearly isn't attainable - so there is no compromise. New owners. 

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date. Excellent result in dragging Waggott / Suhail / Gestede out into the limelight and exposing them as charlatans. They're clearly very rattled and scored an own goal with those interviews. From my perspective as a fan, and listening to the Twitter Space yesterday, fans clearly want direction and organisation. I'm not sure 'Express yourself' is going to land how you want it to on Friday. 

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday. See above. An absolute car crash. 

5. Do you want to get more involved. Potentially, but I don't have much free time to volunteer. 

[BlackburnEnd75]

1.What's the desired end game.

Venkys selling the club to new owners

2. What's the compromise position.

For me I would be prepared to 're-engage' with the club and continue to support the club financially by buying season tickets in the interim if ownership publically put the club up for sale and certain conditions were met around that. 

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date.

Generally very good. Obviously there will come a time soon where we need a bit more organised direction but I'm hoping that comes after the express yourself thing vs Boro. 

Beyond that I'd like to see more documentation of why we are at the end of of our tether with the owners / board. Easily disseminable information that could be used to inform the outside press and convert those that are scared of change away from the venkys.

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday.

Lies, spin and waffle. I'm not really sure throughout all of the info relased yesterday we are much clearer because they aren't being open and what they say doesn't match their actions

5. Do you want to get more involved?

Yes, not in a leadership capacity but would be able to do something else to help. 

[Salgados Hair]

Just a thought, maybe you could do a 'room next door' style thing with those media interviews from yday.

[StHelensRover]

That is a good idea, take some short clips from the long video where they say/promise something and then ask why we would believe this given the last 14/15 years e.g. all our players being out of contract being "exciting times"...

Edited 23 hours ago by StHelensRover

[RoverDom]

1 hour ago, glen9mullan said:

1. What's the desired end game.

2. What's the compromise position.

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date.

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday.

5. Do you want to get more involved.

1. Venkys out 

2. Venkys to become interested in the club with an actual desire to push for promotion and they clearly articulate their plans for getting us promoted. Also a sincere apology and recognition of the shitshow of the last 15 years. So essentially Venkys out. 

3. Spot on - blood and thunder protests will soon run out of energy and are easy to ride out. This calm considered approach is absolutely the right way to go and gives us the moral high ground. 

4. Even in the Rovers TV one with preapproved possibly scripted questions. They came across as guilty as sin. If you knit it together with stuff we've been told previously it's so contradictory. I think Rudy showed how inexperienced he is for the role

5. I'm not local and got a few things going on in my personal life which means I can't dedicate too much time to it (I wouldn't want to sign up to anything and then be unreliable) but I will keep pushing the message across any platform I can

 

[RoverDom]

8 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

That is a good idea, take some short clips from the long video where they say/promise something and then ask why we would believe this given the last 14/15 years e.g. all our players being out of contract being "exciting times"...

Was about to suggest the same thing

Can we do a video of our own using clips from yesterday to demonstrate the lies they've told. E.g. there will be a video clip of waggot saying there are no issues with owner funding.  Show that clip followed by Suhail saying yesterday that for a year they couldn't send money over. Suhail also said we'd spent around a million in Janaury, put that next to the statement saying there had been significant investment. 

There must be plenty out there from media clips, club statements, forum / trust minutes, to give a decent length fact based video. Although I think we'd have enough to rival the Lord of the rings trilogy. 

 

 

[arbitro]

1. What's the desired end game.

To rid ourselves of the owners.

2. What's the compromise position.

Personally I don't think there should be a compromise.

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date.

It's been measured and done in the right manner ie no kneejerk reactions. From the posts on here it is structured too but the aim must be to keep the pressure on.

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday?

It is telling that we have hardly heard from them in a long time and suddenly the three of them appear with the in-house media team (in the case of the COO we have never heard from him). The fact this happened is a clear indicator to me that they are worried and if the pressure is increased they will struggle with it. As for giving me any confidence for the future they did the opposite.

5. Do you want to get more involved.

Yes.

[den]

You’re doing a good job Glen. It must be quite stressful.

my only comment - and it isn’t very helpful - is that your campaign will very likely need to be ongoing for some considerable time. I’m sure you’ve thought of that. You will need help and hopefully all the other groups who’ve fallen behind you can give you practical help as well. It needs the fan groups to get together, fall in as one and put concerted pressure on the people running the club. 
 

oh, one other comment. There can only be one aim. The owners must sell the club.
 

 

[DeeCee]

Great work Glen and all involved 💯👏

Not much I can do from Cornwall but happy to do anything I can to remove these parasites from our club.

[Herbie6590]

2 hours ago, ... said:

Could it be promoted stay behind for the players at the end of the game? At the end of the day it's not fair on them, ok if they underperform we can be disgruntled naturally but at they trying times they deserve our support as I'm sure off pitch situations are affecting them. One mistake on the pitch their heads could drop if we arent behind them. Just thoughts that's all

They were booed on Saturday…at h/t & f/t…wrong reaction, wrong target IMO 

[Herbie6590]

You have achieved lots in a short time. Very impressive.

Dont know how you feel about what I’m about to suggest, but…take over the Trust at the upcoming AGM ? 
 

As things stand, they are irrelevant & obsolete - they want fresh blood…so…

[ben_the_beast]

3 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

1. What's the desired end game.

New owners. The club must be put up for sale for a reasonable asking price. Part of this means the owners being aware the money invested to date in the club is a sunk cost.

2. What's the compromise position.

There is no compromise. They have failed, repeatedly and over a long period of time. Theyve hit a point of no return. The club must be put up for sale and preferably engage with fans regarding preferred bidders.

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date.

Spot on. Its been measured and had the desired effect. My worry is how do we keep our foot on the gas without alienating the fan base. As another poster said, i do think the fans desire direction. Full on protests would divide but I think some kind of visual act before or after a game which fans could either join or refrain from is the way to go. We need clear visuals that the tide has turned. Media wise, I agree with easy to access timeline of facts with sources for more hard hitting articles. Then a more light hearted approach to some of the clubs responses could work wonders. Short video clips to demonstrate their lies would be good. I'm not one for much social media, but a few short reels could work wonders. 

 5. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday.

As expected. Shambolic with an aim to divide ane conquer. It feels as though their attempts are largely falling on deaf ears thoygy.

6. Do you want to get more involved

Living outside the area I'm not sure what I could bring to the party. But will keep my eye out if there are ever specific requests I feel I can help with. Unfortunately Glen I do think there is only you who can be the face/head of this. To make it sustainable though I do think a good and large team need to be assembled around you to carry out the majority of the work. Keep asking for any help that is needed and we can all get our club back together. (I think you've done a cracking job so far)

 

[oldjamfan1]

1. What's the desired end game.

New owners. The club must be put up for sale for a reasonable asking price. Part of this means the owners being aware the money invested to date in the club is a sunk cost.

 

This is absolutely bang on the money (pun intended!)

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2 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

They were booed on Saturday…at h/t & f/t…wrong reaction, wrong target IMO 

👏 correct. They gave us some good highs this season (awaiting and some lows comments...) 

They are the reason we go down there. They do all the running around and play for our famous club. 

I'll always wait and applaud them

 Love the team hate the regime.

[glen9mullan]

5 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

You have achieved lots in a short time. Very impressive.

Dont know how you feel about what I’m about to suggest, but…take over the Trust at the upcoming AGM ? 
 

As things stand, they are irrelevant & obsolete - they want fresh blood…so…

I'm open minded on anything that aids getting everyone on a page that we can all buy in to.

All groups have bad days and weeks, but we shouldn't use that to define them or distract from the lots of good work done.

The worse decision is not to make one, and I'm fully confident the trust will recover from the couple of weeks frustration and be stronger for it.

 

[rigger]

9 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Good Morning All,

Certainly been an exhausting couple of weeks on the back of 15 exhausting years.

What we do next is very much shaped by you, the club's supporter base.

1. What's the desired end game. Rovers to have a competiitive team

2. What's the compromise position. New people running the club

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date. Successful

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday. Amateur

5. Do you want to get more involved. Limited qualities, but I do have spare-time.

Keeping traction can become difficult if we take foot off gas but at the same time being measured and precise prevents own goals.

It's certainly not easy in a large working group, lots of opinions and conversations sometimes wander off which loses focus and days pass by.

How can you help?

Share the messages, share the tweets. 

We need to be better at communicating than the club , always one step ahead and always firmly risk accessed to create the desired outcome.

My inbox always open, always willing to meet up for a chat too or take a phone call.

It's really you, that will shape our direction

 

 

 

[Upside Down]

 1. What's the desired end game.

Venkys sell the club.

2. What's the compromise position.

After 15 years there is no compromise. Sell the club.

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date.

Absolutely excellent work. We need to keep on top of things though and press hard with controlling the narrative. The facts and figures are well and truly on our side, but we need to be well aware that the ownership will be pulling out all the stops to fight us on this. I would bet a penny to a pound that they'll have people in their employment that are specialists in counter insurgency tactics, fortunately from what I've seen of their efforts they're not the best and they're pretty basic.

We need to stick with the facts and the ultimate end game which is them selling up. A well organised media campaign that keeps pushing the narrative. We need to keep them in the spotlight and we need to be unrelenting in this. We need to make sure every man and his dog knows exactly what has happened here and just what a bunch of lying deceitful people they are. We need to let them know that we're going to keep causing them troubles and the only way it ends is with the club being sold.

Of utmost importance is that we maintain that our actions are always peaceful and lawful.

I'm not telling anyone how to suck eggs here, just reaffirming the key points. I've spent a bit of time protesting the genocide, doing marches, blockades etc. I've seen the filth kick 70 odd year old men and women to the ground and pepper spray them in the face. They'll take great delight in doing much worse to a bunch of football fans oif given the chance so let's not give them the excuse and discredit ourselves. Beware agent provocateurs.

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday.

Hahahahahaha 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

We've got them well and truly rattled. They've proved just how dense and out of touch they really are. They're there for the taking.

5. Do you want to get more involved.

I am honestly tapped out but I will do whatever I can. I have documented the majority of incidents that have happened here since 2021. It's ok but needs more work. Anyone that wants to carry this on or even just get a copy, pm me your email and I will flick it through. These are irrefutable facts that cannot be explained away or argued against.

 

This is OUR club. It's always been ours, it was not and never will be theirs.

RTID.

 

Edited 13 hours ago by Upside Down

[Neal]

1) Rovers up for sale/new ownership & if not an explanation as to WHY?

 

2) No compromise.

 

3) Fair approach which was just generally feeling out the vibe of different fans. 

 

4) Defensive, no empathy for the damage done, no self accountability, book passing, lies, poor body language which which showed they didn't WANT to do it, they were forced to do it. Us against them vibes. An air of entitlement to the 'jobs' they have. Low skill, low quality, amateurs. 

 

5) Possibly. I was very involved previously, arguably one of the most active in protesting in many ways, from physical protests to interviewing our former chairman Paul Hunt which was published on here. That was when I was a single younger lad, now I have a family to look after. Which is why my NAPM approach fits well as I can do it mainly online and with everyone I speak to. 

[paullarrygher]

1. What's the desired end game.
Venky's selling the club and the removal of the club's senior leadership (CEO, COO and HOF)

2. What's the compromise position.
I'd accept Venky's retaining a minority stake in BRFC, but selling the majority, removing the current senior leadership and handing over control of all football matters to new investor. 

3. What's your general thoughts on our approach to date.
Excellent, inclusive and not telling fans what they should or shouldn't be doing. Drawn the senior leadership out and got them panicking.

4. What's your thoughts on the Exec interviews yesterday.
They are absolutely rattled and have no idea how to respond. They haven't learnt from their mistakes 15 years ago during the Kean era and they deserve absolutely everything coming to them.

5. Do you want to get more involved.
Happy to help in any way I can.