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[Herbie6590]

Never let it be said I don’t listen 😆

[Forever Blue]

6 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

Never let it be said I don’t listen 😆

You have a beautiful soul😍

[Tom]

27 minutes ago, JHRover said:

This side of things interests me. Why has he suddenly, after all these years, assumed a public persona?

We know that he has been heavily involved since at least 2015. In a decade since there have been no interviews, a couple of photos of him sat next to Waggott and that's it. 

Now all of a sudden he's volunteering to do hour long sit down interviews and he's apparently overseeing the commercial operation.

It's just a very odd recent shift in his approach. 

It also doesn't make much sense to me that he's now seemingly tasked with overseeing operations and commercial activity and 'reports' to Waggott on this yet continues in his other role as Venky representative/communicator.

I always assumed that his anonymity and silence in the shadows was enforced by the owners, because they didn't want one of their gang being exposed and publicly scrutinised after their experiences back at the start of their ownership. Then with this I ask myself whether it was all his decision to remain silent and run things from the shadows, and he has chosen now to be the time to emerge.

Why now?

We've technically been in worse situations during his time - relegation to League One, League One, a very close relegation battle last season. No appearance or comment from shadow man.

I'm linking his emergence to his new job title as 'COO' which has only happened in the last year. 

I am however convinced that he is the biggest issue in the corridors of Ewood - far bigger than Waggott or Gestede - and I am also of the belief that it is he who has ensured there is no link between manager and India. I remember Broughton and JDT wanting to go out to see the Indians but it was scuppered by someone - I think he enjoys being the only point of contact to India - but nonetheless the Indians are the root of all this. They have to go and the regime collapses quickly at Ewood.

He was involved in 2011 - I have first hand knowledge of that 

[Mike E]

I heard the David Lowe thing from one of Dunny’s previous assistants at another club when he came to us as a driver during Covid.

Can’t remember the exactly under which manager it happened, but I was told that Lowe was removed by someone in charge as part of the backroom staff (possibly when Lambert or Coyle was manager?) and rehired directly by Balaji Rao.

Then he randomly got promoted to Asst Manager when Mowbray came in, and signed a new deal with the club in June 2017.

It never occurred to me until this has started coming out through other channels, but could it be that Lowe is (in Venky minds) superior to Pasha?

Edited April 6 by Mike E

[Forever Blue]

David Lowe is actually Mrs D in a Scooby Doo mask. It all makes sense now. 

[Upside Down]

There is a real possibility that this is venkys throwing the shadow man under the bus in an attempt to distance themselves from this latest disaster.

Say Suhail is removed, then what?

Suhail is no doubt the biggest issue we face on the ground in Ewood but that is because he is venkys personal errands boy. He's running the club under direct instruction from them.

We keep seeing this tactic over and over again from them. Things turn to shit and they trot out someone who will take the flak for them. Kean, Anderson, Shaw, Coyle, Waggot and now their own man Suhail. As per usual venkys are portrayed as an innocent party in all of this. I don't believe that for one second.

The removal of venkys is the only thing that will bring any kind of normalcy back to this football club. It is they that are the problem, nobody else.

[Upside Down]

2 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

David Lowe is actually Mrs D in a Scooby Doo mask. It all makes sense now. 

Explains why his face doesn't fit properly on his head.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

2 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

about time the whole stinking house collapsed imo

Could we be about to see the Snakes turn on one another?...

[roverandout]

9 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Explains why his face doesn't fit properly on his head.

 

[davulsukur]

5 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Could we be about to see the Snakes turn on one another?...

At some point, self preservation will kick in for all those in the firing line. Worryingly for us, you'd imagine Suhail will be the prime candidate for survival, as he clearly already has the Rao's trust.

[jim mk2]

Blimey, reading this thread all the way through what a nest of vipers Ewood Park has become. Many organisations have snakes like Lowe, hanging on for years despite constant change yet seemingly untouchable. Now it has all become clear. The whole lot needs clearing out and resetting with a clean slate.

Well done  to Glen & co for shining a light on these people and forcing them into the open. Hopefully this is the beginning of the end of this dreadful regime that has destroyed our great club 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited April 6 by jim mk2

[JCRovers]

2 hours ago, lraC said:

 

Christ. Even if only half of this is true, it would prove just how badly run this club is. SW rumoured to be retiring or leaving soon starts to make sense when SP/RG seems to have been going against him in many of the decisions made. I have no doubt that RG will be the next CEO and owners' right hand in terms of loyalty. Problem is he is clearly unqualified for the position; him pushing hard for VI is just one example, having disagreements with JP on transfer targets is another.

Starting to believe that there's some kind of incentive/ bonus payment for board members if they manage to keep spending within the budget set by owners at the start of each season. This would explain why there never seem to be any transfer money left to spend come January and the infamous "botched" transfer moves all happened during this period as well. SP is looking like the real gatekeeper behind all these blockages; an act of evil for sure.

Said it before that a downgrade of the Academy from Category 1 will spell the beginning of the end for the owners as it will drain the club of whatever small amount of talented players that comes through the ranks, and thus the value of sellable assets will slowly head towards zero. Would be kinda ironic if SP were to be the one that makes a horrible cost-cutting decision that will ultimately lead to owners being forced to sell the club...

[den]

Too many initials for me.

Bottom line though is that this whole thing, this whole scenario would not occur under proper ownership. The whole lot need booting out. Every single one of them.

[Silas]

49 minutes ago, den said:

Too many initials for me.

There clearly an OCG operating, and the SIO doesn't realise a CI is releasing information behind the scenes.

The end result = it's all FUBAR

[RevidgeBlue]

The rumours about all being not as it seems with Lowe's employment have been doing the rounds for years. Something definitely not right there.

As for the suggestions coming out that Waggott is to some extent an innocent victim in this and isn't the main problem - I'd wager those are emanating from errrr.......Waggott. Technically, Pasha answers to Waggott and we've been hearing for a few seasons that Waggott's only a figurehead and will be retiring at the end of the season anyway blah blah and he never does and has recently taken a huge uplift in remuneration to boot -  whilst other areas of the Club starve.

At the very least, even if Pasha does has the final say or the owners' ear,  Waggott goes along with it all and is complicit. They're ALL equally to blame.and need removing.

Ultimately of course the blame lies with our absentee landlord owners for turning a blind eye and letting them all get away with it. Been happening the the majority of their regime under a sizeable selection of different shysters.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

7 hours ago, JCRovers said:

Christ. Even if only half of this is true, it would prove just how badly run this club is. SW rumoured to be retiring or leaving soon starts to make sense when SP/RG seems to have been going against him in many of the decisions made. I have no doubt that RG will be the next CEO and owners' right hand in terms of loyalty. Problem is he is clearly unqualified for the position; him pushing hard for VI is just one example, having disagreements with JP on transfer targets is another.

Starting to believe that there's some kind of incentive/ bonus payment for board members if they manage to keep spending within the budget set by owners at the start of each season. This would explain why there never seem to be any transfer money left to spend come January and the infamous "botched" transfer moves all happened during this period as well. SP is looking like the real gatekeeper behind all these blockages; an act of evil for sure.

Said it before that a downgrade of the Academy from Category 1 will spell the beginning of the end for the owners as it will drain the club of whatever small amount of talented players that comes through the ranks, and thus the value of sellable assets will slowly head towards zero. Would be kinda ironic if SP were to be the one that makes a horrible cost-cutting decision that will ultimately lead to owners being forced to sell the club...

All the pieces of this turgid jigsaw coming together now.The self preservation society have been rumbled.

Pigs gorging at the Venky Trough while the rest of the Club Starves.

Edited April 7 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Upside Down]

It's important to state the obvious that these rumours are just that.

Is all of it true? Possibly.

Is some of it true? The smart bet is yes.

I am suspicious of a couple of things.

If Gestede had been talking to other managers since August then why did it take weeks to appoint VI?

Quite a bit of what's said above has been said on here over the last few weeks and months, there some more meat to the bones in what the supposed insider says, so is this embellishments or actual truth?

We've heard different versions of John Park's departure. One version is that he had a power struggle with Gestede and left (nixon). The other that was passed on from Unleaded, is that Eustace was blocking any and all transfers and Park left as a result. Now there's this version above that claims the exact opposite and leans more into Park vs Gestede.

Amazingly, the most credible version is Nixon's.

I never believed the info that unleaded was passing on about this, it was all too conveniently pinning all the blame on Eustace. Not 8n any way a knock on unleaded, he's usually got solid info but I think this time he was fed a load of shit.

This third version again is an expansion on what we've already heard.

The main thing that sticks out to me is that once again venkys are portrayed as a completely innocent party in all of this. They're not.

This is all very good for discussion but we must make sure we stick to the facts when it counts. I personally don't take any of this too seriously until someone is willing to put their name to it.

One thing's for sure, they can't discredit or argue against this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lXkZ_O-dlwPjMGcmTQEAUYuDWUjr5U5_/view?usp=drivesdk

We've plenty of ammunition to use against them without having to rely on rumours and gossip.

[oldjamfan1]

10 hours ago, JHRover said:

This side of things interests me. Why has he suddenly, after all these years, assumed a public persona?

We know that he has been heavily involved since at least 2015. In a decade since there have been no interviews, a couple of photos of him sat next to Waggott and that's it. 

Now all of a sudden he's volunteering to do hour long sit down interviews and he's apparently overseeing the commercial operation.

It's just a very odd recent shift in his approach. 

Why now?

 

I realise that it is de rigueur to bash WATR at the moment but they have been instrumental in this shift. The pressure WATR put on him to come out of the shadows has been relentless for about 18 months now. 
 

And it finally paid off.

[roverandout]

9 hours ago, Silas said:

There clearly an OCG operating, and the SIO doesn't realise a CI is releasing information behind the scenes.

The end result = it's all FUBAR

Soon the cia and fbi will get involved in this bs

[Tugayisgod]

If "Ashley" does indeed work at Rovers and claims to have inside information on the ongoing chaos at the club  it's to be hoped Ashley isn't his real name ? 

Edited April 7 by Tugayisgod

[simongarnerisgod]

it`s quite clear,blackburn rovers are going downhill faster than franz klammer

[Mike E]

34 years total in the second division, 6 years total in the third.

Venkys are responsible for a third of that in only 15 years at the club.

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22 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

it`s quite clear,blackburn rovers are going downhill faster than franz klammer

Fanny Chmelar

[lraC]

5 hours ago, ... said:

Fanny Chmelar

Some of this, certainly stinks.

[Upside Down]

38 minutes ago, lraC said:

Some of this, certainly stinks.

It's a bit fishy.