Souness must go ?

[Brownie1]

"Who knows who the solution could be come summer.

Personally I wouldn't mind:

Mark Hughes

Mickey Adams

Gary Megson"

Hilarious !!

[cletus]

If Souness went (& i hope he doesn`t)

I like to see George Graham down at Ewood.

He`d sort the defence out & wouldn`t take any crap from the so-called primadonnas at the club.

I don`t know what he`s doing at the moment (job-wise)

but he`s got an excellent managerial record....christ, he even won a trophy at Spurs (& they didn`t give him a chance from day 1)

He`d get my vote.......

[philipl]

If Souness went (& i hope he doesn`t)

I like to see George Graham down at Ewood.

He`d sort the defence out & wouldn`t take any crap from the so-called primadonnas at the club.

I don`t know what he`s doing at the moment (job-wise)

but he`s got an excellent managerial record....christ, he even won a trophy at Spurs (& they didn`t give him a chance from day 1)

He`d get my vote.......

I have just seen the most convincing argument yet for keeping Souness,

[Grimshaw]

I wouldnt mind him as an assistant manager...

You cant argue hes good at organising teams defensively Philipl..

[Laurence]

George Graham.....aaarrrghh!

Anyone suggested Jan Molby? - plenty of pedigree/respect/experience has been learning his trade in lower leagues...

I think GS should stay on anyway, but JM might be a good longer term replacement.

[Radagast]

Who knows who the solution could be come summer.

Personally I wouldn't mind:

Mark Hughes

Mickey Adams

Gary Megson

to name but 3.  All of whom are used to making the best of meagre resources AND doing it without seeming to have person after person slagging them off in the press.

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....WHAT???

I'm really struggling to find an answer to that one.

[Jan]

Last post says it's by Radaghast, but I can't see it

I'm sure it would be amusing whatever!

[Jan]

There it is

It wasn't

To an earlier point-

So we're developing nicely, playing well, the players are happy and there's no cause to worry.  I see.  The fact that we went out of all the cups- pathetically- at the first attempt and are showing like a bunch of pub footballers in the league while having the 8th highest wage bill in the league is great, is is?

John Williams said to us at a meeting that broadly, he'd expect that the club's position in the league should be within 2 either side of the position in the table of wages paid.  Any higher is overachieving, any lower is failure.  Even at this time in the season, 16th when we're paying 8th is failure.

I think the injuries we've got are being used to fuzz a fundamental problem, which was evident at the start of the season, when everyone bar Shorty was fit- the replacement players aren't good enough and organisationally we're hopeless.

This is a combination of selling our best players- for whatever reason- buying mostly inferior replacement players, constantly changing the team (even when they were all fit), playing players out of position and, potentially, changing the coaching structure.

[Grimshaw]

8th highest wages in the league?! Really? Whats your sources?

[chris]

8th highest wages in the league?! Really? Whats your sources?

john Williams i think it was

[Grimshaw]

Thats mental! I always thought we were quite a well run club...

Arsenal

Man U

Liverpool

Chelsea

Newcastle

Man City?

Birmingham?

Us?

Arsenal 22 15 7 0 42 14 +28  52

Man Utd 22 16 2 4 40 15 +25  50

Chelsea 22 14 4 4 40 17 +23  46

Charlton 22 10 7 5 31 23 +8  37

Liverpool 22 9 6 7 32 24 +8  33

Newcastle 22 8 9 5 30 23 +7  33

Fulham 22 9 4 9 34 32 +2  31

Southampton 22 8 6 8 21 18 +3  30

Birmingham 21 8 6 7 19 25 -6  30

Bolton 22 7 8 7 26 33 -7  29

Tottenham 22 8 3 11 26 31 -5  27

Aston Villa 22 7 6 9 21 27 -6  27

Middlesbro' 21 6 7 8 20 26 -6  25

Everton 22 6 6 10 25 29 -4  24

Man City 22 5 8 9 31 33 -2  23

Blackburn 22 6 5 11 32 36 -4  23

Portsmouth 22 6 4 12 25 33 -8  22

Leicester 22 4 8 10 31 38 -7  20

Wolves 22 4 7 11 20 44 -24  19

Leeds Utd 22 4 5 13 19 44 -25  17

[Nuclearsox]

The link is in this interview with JW from the LET.

We had the 8th highest wage bill last season.

Surely once Ostenstad went that would have reduced it to the 16th highest though...?

[broadsword]

Gary Megson? Micky Adams? Mark Hughes?

Good grief, that's almost as bad as Paul Sturrock.

There's not many managers around who've gone to different clubs and won trophies. Otherwise why would Newcastle have gone for 70-year old Robson?

Souness has a track record, not always successful, but it's a damn sight better than three managerial candidates with bugger all top level experience between them.

Your anti-Rangers bias really ends up making you look silly. anything to justify sticking the knife into GS, eh?

[tashor]

There it is

It wasn't

To an earlier point-

So we're developing nicely, playing well, the players are happy and there's no cause to worry.  I see.  The fact that we went out of all the cups- pathetically- at the first attempt and are showing like a bunch of pub footballers in the league while having the 8th highest wage bill in the league is great, is is?

John Williams said to us at a meeting that broadly, he'd expect that the club's position in the league should be within 2 either side of the position in the table of wages paid.  Any higher is overachieving, any lower is failure.  Even at this time in the season, 16th when we're paying 8th is failure.

I think the injuries we've got are being used to fuzz a fundamental problem, which was evident at the start of the season, when everyone bar Shorty was fit- the replacement players aren't good enough and organisationally we're hopeless.

This is a combination of selling our best players- for whatever reason- buying mostly inferior replacement players, constantly changing the team (even when they were all fit), playing players out of position and, potentially, changing the coaching structure.

        { EDIT }

Enough already Tash.

"This post has been auto-edited to save the Mods a job...."

                   

[Kennysuperbuyer]

The link is in this interview with JW from the LET.

We had the 8th highest wage bill last season.

Surely once Ostenstad went that would have reduced it to the 16th highest though...?

Yorke and Cole must take a fair whack of the wage bill. Ostenstad was replaced with Baggio which has turned out another bad bit of business on your beloved manager.

[Clive]

Jesus KSB, you should be in American politics with your brand of wild, inaccurate labelling. It seems that you say everyone who isn't 120% on the 'Souness out' showboat sees him as a demi-God. I wasn't keen on his appointment, but he has done alright apart from this season. And that I think we should replace him when someone better is clearly available. Sadly, there may not be anyone available.

[Flopsy]

There it is

It wasn't

To an earlier point-

So we're developing nicely, playing well, the players are happy and there's no cause to worry.  I see.  The fact that we went out of all the cups- pathetically- at the first attempt and are showing like a bunch of pub footballers in the league while having the 8th highest wage bill in the league is great, is is?

John Williams said to us at a meeting that broadly, he'd expect that the club's position in the league should be within 2 either side of the position in the table of wages paid.  Any higher is overachieving, any lower is failure.  Even at this time in the season, 16th when we're paying 8th is failure.

I think the injuries we've got are being used to fuzz a fundamental problem, which was evident at the start of the season, when everyone bar Shorty was fit- the replacement players aren't good enough and organisationally we're hopeless.

This is a combination of selling our best players- for whatever reason- buying mostly inferior replacement players, constantly changing the team (even when they were all fit), playing players out of position and, potentially, changing the coaching structure.

        { EDIT }

Enough already Tash.

"This post has been auto-edited to save the Mods a job...."

                   

ho hum

[tcj_jones]

rover6

Premier League

Group: Members

Posts: 546

Joined: Oct. 2003  Posted: Oct. 20 2003, 22:52  

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People who have read my previous comments (all of whom have been critical of Souness) will know that this is not a knee-jerk reaction following the Charlton defeat.

I do admire one of Souness' strengths - fight. But did that fight reflect itself in the team against Charlton? Or Fulham, Liverpool, Man City etc.? Souness' fight is waning and his ability to instill confidence in his players is following suit.

Tactically, he is primative. Anyone can tell you that Tommo can't play left midfield. We have zero width when that happens. Any half-wit could have told you that Charlton were without Bartlett and Lisbie - their in form strikers. Surely the objective therefore, is to attack at home, not start with ONE striker and 3 defensive midfielders.

Nevertheless, tactics doesn't always win games. Ask Kevin Keegan. But what has Keegan got that Souness hasn't? The ability to give confidence and support his players. OK, Grabbi misses sitters against Genclerbiligi - what do you do? Put him on the bench to confirm your support for him OR chuck him out of the team altogether and let him rot - all £7million of him.

Souness claimed before the match that confidence was not a problem - which is why Tiny looked terrified on the ball. Ferguson avoided the ball, Flitty likewise, Tommo looked uncertain and Emerton non-existant.

WHy is Souness lying to the fans? Because he has to hide his blatent inability to help the players in their moment of crisis. No doubt Souness will blame the defeat on missed chances - why are we missing chances. Because the players are low on confidence and their manager isn't helping.

Last time we were this low under Souness, he went and bought Cole (during our first year back) and last season DUff came back to form. Souness can't buy anyone now, we don't have Duff - what is he going to do. The money was blown on failed signings - the biggest one being Barry Ferguson. A good player but not worth £7 million. Nowhere near as good as Scott Parker, Koumas, Michael Brown or Carrick.

We need to get rid to give a new man a chance to avert this crisis before it becomes disastrous. A new man will not bring with him SOuness' idiotic beliefs. Alan Mahon is not a rabid player who'll infect our players if he plays. Flitcroft isn't infallible because he's the skipper - need I go on. We need a shake up and heads must roll - Souness'.

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Souness must resign to give Blackburn a hope of avoiding relegation, administration and a Sheff Wed-like demise.

We need Plymouth boss Paul Sturrock  

when i read this post my heart sank.i find it appaulingly inaccurate in so many ways. firstly, how can a premiership manager and a manager with SO many years of experience in football and all over europe have "primitive" tactics?! i have watched blackburn play on numerous instances since the charlton match and we have looked superb minus the hurrendous mistakes of individual players and a lack of touch up front. you speak of lack of confidence... mayb that isnt souness fault but the fault of a group of incredibly talented players that simply arent cutting it on the pitch. souness has been involved in team building exercises an such an the defenders of ewood showed a good team spirit. as for the left wing - anyone will tell u that the sale of duff will leave u a huge void. admittedly tommo aint the best suited player to that position but with so little money given to spend and the lack of players available that fall into our wage structure, he is still a decent repacement. reid is a young player and was a good signing but hasnt quite settled and has been rocked by injury. who would u suggest we buy/put out on the left? as for grabbi, grabbi was a proven goalscorer but 7million was just too much and he was a flop - one of souness few mistakes as manager. if he cant cut it, then get him out! my criticsm is not that he withdrew him from the bench but that he didnt sell him ages ago, admit defeat an such. as for lying to the fans... thats ****, he will use excuses which i find to be commical genius; if it isnt the referee, its the pitch, or the opposition fans or the weather or a bird that flew a little too close to the players... but as u speak of confidence, would saying that players were **** EVERY match raise their confidence??!!! NO! any decent manager would know that. as for ferguson.... WHAT R U THINKING?! ferguson = deal of the season (if he hadnt have gotten injured) seeing as parker went for 10million an has performed on only a few instances and is relatively new to the scene, ferguson was a bargain being scotland captain and rangers captain and a true performer. at rovers he was slow to start, but MY GOD when he got going he ran the game! he was amazing. one of the best cm's iv seen this season in the premiership! newcastle for eg, he ran the game, got injured and it started to slip away from us until we got a lucky handball goal. we have missed him and havent been the same since his injury. alan mahon is not a good player - hence why division one clubs r after him. souness is not the problem! finances and players playing badly is our problem!!! i think more fans should stick up for our manager that has done so much for us.

sorry for the essay and im sure im going to displease the moderators... sorry! but that post was incredibly wrong in so many ways.

[chris]

i wouldn't bother replying to Rover6, he always talks crap just to get attention i think, during the day Rover6 goes into Blackburn town centre and reads the bible out load, you know attention seeker

[tcj_jones]

haha SO true. i didnt read all the other like 90 pages of replies cos its too much but i hope people slated him for this. it just infuriated me!

[S15]

We could shack Mr Schouness and replache him with Mr Ruud Gullit, then we would play shome shexy football.

[jim mk2]

rover6

Premier League

Group: Members

Posts: 546

Joined: Oct. 2003  Posted: Oct. 20 2003, 22:52  

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People who have read my previous comments (all of whom have been critical of Souness) will know that this is not a knee-jerk reaction following the Charlton defeat.

I do admire one of Souness' strengths - fight. But did that fight reflect itself in the team against Charlton? Or Fulham, Liverpool, Man City etc.? Souness' fight is waning and his ability to instill confidence in his players is following suit.

Tactically, he is primative. Anyone can tell you that Tommo can't play left midfield. We have zero width when that happens. Any half-wit could have told you that Charlton were without Bartlett and Lisbie - their in form strikers. Surely the objective therefore, is to attack at home, not start with ONE striker and 3 defensive midfielders.

Nevertheless, tactics doesn't always win games. Ask Kevin Keegan. But what has Keegan got that Souness hasn't? The ability to give confidence and support his players. OK, Grabbi misses sitters against Genclerbiligi - what do you do? Put him on the bench to confirm your support for him OR chuck him out of the team altogether and let him rot - all £7million of him.

Souness claimed before the match that confidence was not a problem - which is why Tiny looked terrified on the ball. Ferguson avoided the ball, Flitty likewise, Tommo looked uncertain and Emerton non-existant.

WHy is Souness lying to the fans? Because he has to hide his blatent inability to help the players in their moment of crisis. No doubt Souness will blame the defeat on missed chances - why are we missing chances. Because the players are low on confidence and their manager isn't helping.

Last time we were this low under Souness, he went and bought Cole (during our first year back) and last season DUff came back to form. Souness can't buy anyone now, we don't have Duff - what is he going to do. The money was blown on failed signings - the biggest one being Barry Ferguson. A good player but not worth £7 million. Nowhere near as good as Scott Parker, Koumas, Michael Brown or Carrick.

We need to get rid to give a new man a chance to avert this crisis before it becomes disastrous. A new man will not bring with him SOuness' idiotic beliefs. Alan Mahon is not a rabid player who'll infect our players if he plays. Flitcroft isn't infallible because he's the skipper - need I go on. We need a shake up and heads must roll - Souness'.

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Souness must resign to give Blackburn a hope of avoiding relegation, administration and a Sheff Wed-like demise.

We need Plymouth boss Paul Sturrock  

when i read this post my heart sank.i find it appaulingly inaccurate in so many ways. firstly, how can a premiership manager and a manager with SO many years of experience in football and all over europe have "primitive" tactics?! i have watched blackburn play on numerous instances since the charlton match and we have looked superb minus the hurrendous mistakes of individual players and a lack of touch up front. you speak of lack of confidence... mayb that isnt souness fault but the fault of a group of incredibly talented players that simply arent cutting it on the pitch. souness has been involved in team building exercises an such an the defenders of ewood showed a good team spirit. as for the left wing - anyone will tell u that the sale of duff will leave u a huge void. admittedly tommo aint the best suited player to that position but with so little money given to spend and the lack of players available that fall into our wage structure, he is still a decent repacement. reid is a young player and was a good signing but hasnt quite settled and has been rocked by injury. who would u suggest we buy/put out on the left? as for grabbi, grabbi was a proven goalscorer but 7million was just too much and he was a flop - one of souness few mistakes as manager. if he cant cut it, then get him out! my criticsm is not that he withdrew him from the bench but that he didnt sell him ages ago, admit defeat an such. as for lying to the fans... thats ****, he will use excuses which i find to be commical genius; if it isnt the referee, its the pitch, or the opposition fans or the weather or a bird that flew a little too close to the players... but as u speak of confidence, would saying that players were **** EVERY match raise their confidence??!!! NO! any decent manager would know that. as for ferguson.... WHAT R U THINKING?! ferguson = deal of the season (if he hadnt have gotten injured) seeing as parker went for 10million an has performed on only a few instances and is relatively new to the scene, ferguson was a bargain being scotland captain and rangers captain and a true performer. at rovers he was slow to start, but MY GOD when he got going he ran the game! he was amazing. one of the best cm's iv seen this season in the premiership! newcastle for eg, he ran the game, got injured and it started to slip away from us until we got a lucky handball goal. we have missed him and havent been the same since his injury. alan mahon is not a good player - hence why division one clubs r after him. souness is not the problem! finances and players playing badly is our problem!!! i think more fans should stick up for our manager that has done so much for us.

sorry for the essay and im sure im going to displease the moderators... sorry! but that post was incredibly wrong in so many ways.

Have you heard of punctuation and paragraphs?

No doubt you have made some very good points in your post but I can't be bothered to read it because it looks so awful.

[BRFC4EVA]

Why is this stupid thread still in process. Who's a better option then?

[philipl]

This is as intelligent and reasoned an interview you are likely to get from a football manager and it happens to have been given by Souness.

I would be fascinated to know just what particular incident or observation prompted each of Jan, jim and 6 to become so rabidly anti-Souness.

[colin]

Personally I wouldn't mind:

.......

Mickey Adams

......

All of whom are used to making the best of meagre resources AND doing it without seeming to have person after person slagging them off in the press.

See tomorrow's papers on that one.