BRFC4EVA Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 I think that most people would agree that 3 out the 4 places in midfield are already taken with Pedro on the left, Emo on the right and Bazza in 1 of 2 centre mid spots. However, we haven't really yet solved to who is gonna take the last place. Last season i felt that Tugay was off the pace and gave the ball all too often. He didn't turn it on enough, however im pleased he has signed a new deal. Flitty also was off the pace and the most major part to his game is closing down players and getting the tackles in. I dont think he can do that for a full season now at his age (32?). With this in mind and Douglas not yet good enough, why dont we try out David Thompson there. He is only 26 has the ability to get after players. He always puts in 110% and never shirks a tackle. He also has skill and a good pass on him and i think he should play in the centre mid with Bazza. This will take the pressure off Bazza as he wont have to get forward and defend trying to make up the lack of legs from either tugay or Flitty. Opinions anybody?
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chris Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 (edited) well hopefully Emerton going to be on form otherwise Thompson may have to play on the right. I think Souness has his eye on a pre-30's player to fill CM with Ferguson, I think that is now our remaining weakest position, with Tugay poor defensively and Flitcroft lacking pace. Shame we missed out on Davis, but a player of his age and quality would be nice if we can raise funds Edited July 10, 2004 by chris
Lathund Posted July 10, 2004 Posted July 10, 2004 It's not like we've heard this proposed hundreds of times before Anyway.. he SHOULD work well in the centre, in theory. But the problem is that he hasn't played there, at least not for a long time
LeChuck Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 It must be something Souness thinks will work or he is going to try, there's no way we would go into this season with just three central midfielders (Ferguson, Tugay, Flitcroft) especially when you consider Tugay's age. None of our other midfielders will be capable of playing central and I believe it was mentioned in the LET that it was something Souey had considered...I imagine it is something he will try early in the season. Lets hope it works because, if Thompson could do that job well, I believe we would be in a position to play our 4 best midfielders.
kingalan Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 A left winger who's never played in the Premiership before; our two central midfielders both coming back from serious injury; and a right winger who didn't live up to expectations and had a poor season. These lads won't have time to find their feet and I really hope they hit the ground running. On paper, Thompson looks a good choice for the central midfield berth, but whether he can rediscover his sparkling form of a couple of years back is another matter. Here's hoping he can.
SkemLad Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 Was there none from this list, [as at the end of the season] that you could realistically get on a free? Hatem Trabelski Ajax John Nieuwenberg Ajax Dennis Bergkamp Arsenal Nwankwo Kanu Arsenal Sylvain Wiltord Arsenal Dion Dublin Aston Villa Matias Emanuel Lequi Atletico Madrid Gionatha Spinesi Bari Yildiray Bastürk Bayer Leverkusen Oliver Neuville Bayer Leverkusen Carsten Ramelow Bayer Lerverkusen Alexander Zickler Bayern München Stern John Birmingham Guiseppe Signori Bologna Jay-Jay Okocha Bolton Youri Djorkaeff Bolton Emerson Thome Bolton Marcio Amoruso Borussia Dortmund Sunday Oliseh Borussia Dortmund Marco Pisano Brescia Johann Mjällby Celtic Henrik Larsson Celtic Chris Powell Charlton Paolo Di Canio Charlton Emmanuel Petit Chelsea Mario Melchiot Chelsea Marcel Desailly Chelsea Mauro Silva Deportivo La Coruña Paul Gallacher Dundee Utd Jorge Vargas Empoli David Unsworth Everton Steve Simonsen Everton Paul Gerrard Everton Thomas Helveg Inter Matias Almeyda Inter Okan Buruk Inter Nikos Machlas Iraklis Edgar Davids Juventus Vratislav Lokvenc Kaiserslautern Angelo Peruzzi Lazio Fernando Couto Lazio Sinisa Mihajlovic Lazio David Batty Leeds Lucas Radebe Leeds Muzzy Izzet Leicester Doriva Middlesbrough Colin Cooper Middlesbrough Dado Prso Monaco Viorel Moldovan Nantes Marco Simone Nice Teddy Sheringham Portsmouth Yossi Benayoun Racing Santander Mateo Racing Santander Egil Østenstad Rangers Frank de Boer Rangers Ronald de Boer Rangers Michael Mols Rangers Christian Nerlinger Rangers Ernesto Cambiasso Real Madrid Flavio Conceicao Real Madrid Daniel Jensen Real Murcia Javier De Pedro Real Sociedad Jonathan Zebina Roma Lima Roma Victor Agali Schalke 04 Fabian Lamotte Schalke 04 Kristijan Djordjevic Schalke 04 Fabrizio Zambrella Servette Darren Anderton Tottenham Gustavo Poyet Tottenham Jamie Redknapp Tottenham Christian Ziege Tottenham Jody Morris Walsall Krisztian Lisztes Werder Bremen Steffen Iversen Wolves Paul Ince Wolves Ioan Ganea Wolves Alex Rae Wolves Paul Butler Wolves Michael Oakes Wolves
FourLaneBlue Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 (edited) In the original post by BRFC4EVA he mentioned that Douglas is not yet good enough. I'm not so sure about that. The performances he put in at the end of last season were sometimes impressive and that was despite being played out of position. It's plain to see that Douglas is no left winger but I'd be interested to see how he did in the middle. The work rate and commitment are there and he doesn't mind getting stuck in. The qualities he gives the team are similar to those Flitcroft used to have, way back in the days before he was known as a 'love rat'. I'd have to see Douglas given a run in central midfield to see how he does as will everyone else. To say he is not yet up to it (or as some have said will never be it) is sheer speculation and not even an educated guess. I say give the guy a chance this season in his preferred position. Which means he'll probably end up as a right back... Edited July 11, 2004 by FourLaneBlue
92er Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 I think Saturday's LET suggested that Souness's favoured pairing in centre-midfield might well be Ferguson and Tugay.
tchocky Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 Was there none from this list, [as at the end of the season] that you could realistically get on a free? Javier De Pedro Real Sociedad Yep, there was one.
rover6 Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 Didn't Thompson play central midfield for Liverpool? I don' t think it will take a lot of 'converting'. He naturally drifts into the centre when playing wide and imo would have no problems adjusting.
herbergeehh Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 I think he played out on the right, rover6? I agree though, I'd also like to see him play there - if it doesn't work out then fair enough, at least we know ! It would IMO mean that Ferguson has got to be the holding, defensive midfielder though, which could handicap his offensive play. But if Thommo can get back to where he was after signing from Coventry, he can be a great asset in central midfield aswell.
S15 Posted July 11, 2004 Posted July 11, 2004 If we had Thompson and Ferguson in the middle they'd need to get on each others shoulders on goalkicks or we'd never actually win anything. Ever.
roversWASmylife Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 In the original post by BRFC4EVA he mentioned that Douglas is not yet good enough. I'm not so sure about that. The performances he put in at the end of last season were sometimes impressive and that was despite being played out of position. It's plain to see that Douglas is no left winger but I'd be interested to see how he did in the middle. The work rate and commitment are there and he doesn't mind getting stuck in. The qualities he gives the team are similar to those Flitcroft used to have, way back in the days before he was known as a 'love rat'. I'd have to see Douglas given a run in central midfield to see how he does as will everyone else. To say he is not yet up to it (or as some have said will never be it) is sheer speculation and not even an educated guess. I say give the guy a chance this season in his preferred position. Which means he'll probably end up as a right back... Agree with everything you’ve said there FLB. I’ve said it before, Douglas did very well last season in the games that he played. When we were sinking slowly and everyone was worried, Douglas was one of a few at the beginning who really got stuck in when it mattered. Douglas as well got a lot of unfair criticism in my opinion of certain members here, because he was being played on the left wing and wasn`t the winger that we all wanted, yet when he played there, he gave 100% every game and wanted to play, he did a good job and has to be in Souness`s plans for the season coming up. FLB – I can’t remember, but wasn’t Douglas played in central midfield against Bolton back in January? I remember him then playing well in that game, wasn’t frightened of getting stuck in. I hope he gets another chance, he deserves it.
Exiled_Rover Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 I think Saturday's LET suggested that Souness's favoured pairing in centre-midfield might well be Ferguson and Tugay. That would make matches good fun for the opposition
den Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 The way things are going, we should be asking if Thommo can play centre forward.
FourLaneBlue Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 FLB – I can’t remember, but wasn’t Douglas played in central midfield against Bolton back in January? I remember him then playing well in that game, wasn’t frightened of getting stuck in. I hope he gets another chance, he deserves it. Actually I think you are right. If I remember right when he was taken off we weren't losing then two minutes we were behind and that was that for the game.
BRFC4EVA Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 In the original post by BRFC4EVA he mentioned that Douglas is not yet good enough. I'm not so sure about that. Maybe that came out wrong. What i was basically trying to say is that i dont feel that Douglas (as the moment, not nessecarily in a coupla yrs) is good enough to play a full season of prem football. I have no problems with him as a player and in the future will be a real asset but for me, at the moment we have better options.
BRFC4EVA Posted July 12, 2004 Author Posted July 12, 2004 In the original post by BRFC4EVA he mentioned that Douglas is not yet good enough. I'm not so sure about that. Maybe that came out wrong. What i was basically trying to say is that i dont feel that Douglas (as the moment, not nessecarily in a coupla yrs) is good enough to play a full season of prem football. I have no problems with him as a player and in the future will be a real asset but for me, at the moment we have better options.
chris Posted July 12, 2004 Posted July 12, 2004 In the original post by BRFC4EVA he mentioned that Douglas is not yet good enough. I'm not so sure about that. Maybe that came out wrong. What i was basically trying to say is that i dont feel that Douglas (as the moment, not nessecarily in a coupla yrs) is good enough to play a full season of prem football. I have no problems with him as a player and in the future will be a real asset but for me, at the moment we have better options. i don't think he's anywhere near good enough to fill the CM role, Souness claims him to be a right back I thought, anyway if i had a 23yr old Flitcroft or Batty I would not give Douglas a second look, sadly we seem to be weak in a position he can fill to some degree. Maybe he should be given a chance if we have injuries and see how he does, but we can do a lot better, Douglas will likely end up playing his career for a lower PL club or good div 1 club, hopefully Blackburn are going to become a good PL club where we belong
FourLaneBlue Posted July 13, 2004 Posted July 13, 2004 Maybe that came out wrong. What i was basically trying to say is that i dont feel that Douglas (as the moment, not nessecarily in a coupla yrs) is good enough to play a full season of prem football. I have no problems with him as a player and in the future will be a real asset but for me, at the moment we have better options. I agree that we shouldn't be looking at him to be a main choice in centre midfield but I'd like to see him given a few games in that position this next season. To see what he can do when he is given a chance to shine rather than just battle away unselfishly for the team in a part of the pitch he appears to seem a bit awkward in.
broadsword Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 According to our Graeme in the LET, DT will be pushed into a more central position thsi season ...
Tom Pringle Posted July 22, 2004 Posted July 22, 2004 Bit touchy aren't we? Is it because he's a fellow Aussie? Or you just dislike my opinion?
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