Gamst Pedersen

[Tony Diamond Inc]

Before we play him Tony Diamond, he needs to adjust to the pace of the English game. Then the ' next Beckham ' speech by Souness might be more realistic. Though I hope he isn't the new Beckham for many reasons.............

Thanks

[cuidado]

A nice goal from Morten:

http://home.no/cuidado/mgp/

right click, download, play in wmp.

His father talked to the papers today:

"The worry about Morten is created by the media. First of all he needs to get to know Blackburn, and secondly he needs to adapt to English football. Big stars can be matched into form, but Morten needs to do this step by step. And when he is good enough, he will play", says Ernst Pedersen.

Edited October 26, 2004 by cuidado

[Eddie]

The right sort of messages to be coming out of the Pedersen camp

[rover6]

MGP not even on the bench as Emerton excels on the left flank against Liverpool.

It seems quite clear now. Hughes doesn't rate Pedersen and doesn't want to lose £1 million that would go to Tromso if MGP makes a certain number of appearances etc. because that would eat into his funds and plans for the January transfer window.

As someone who thought MGP would be a hit at Rovers I'm disappointed and feel for the guy because he hasn't been given a real chance, especially when you consider how long Brett Emerton was allowed to be rubbish yet play regularly - and it's paying dividends now.

If this is the case, I'm disappointed in Hughes because although he didn't spend the money, I'd have thought it was still his responsibility to try and make the transfer work out. Hughes seems to have the attitude that MGP wasn't his idea so he doesn't have to try and make him fit into his plans - even though the club lose out if it turns out to be 1.5 million down the drain.

Edited October 30, 2004 by rover6

[RoyRover]

I would like to see Pedersen get a go in the first team, but over who? He should definately be getting more chances from the bench.

[chris]

MGP not even on the bench as Emerton excels on the left flank against Liverpool.

It seems quite clear now. Hughes doesn't rate Pedersen and doesn't want to lose £1 million that would go to Tromso if MGP makes a certain number of appearances etc. because that would eat into his funds and plans for the January transfer window.

As someone who thought MGP would be a hit at Rovers I'm disappointed and feel for the guy because he hasn't been given a real chance, especially when you consider how long Brett Emerton was allowed to be rubbish yet play regularly - and it's paying dividends now.

If this is the case, I'm disappointed in Hughes because although he didn't spend the money, I'd have thought it was still his responsibility to try and make the transfer work out. Hughes seems to have the attitude that MGP wasn't his idea so he doesn't have to try and make him fit into his plans - even though the club lose out if it turns out to be 1.5 million down the drain.

he's only young, give it time, as long as we are not losing

[Shaddy]

MGP not even on the bench as Emerton excels on the left flank against Liverpool.

It seems quite clear now. Hughes doesn't rate Pedersen and doesn't want to lose £1 million that would go to Tromso if MGP makes a certain number of appearances etc. because that would eat into his funds and plans for the January transfer window.

Not improbable, but I'd advise against jumping to conclusions.

As someone who thought MGP would be a hit at Rovers I'm disappointed and feel for the guy because he hasn't been given a real chance, especially when you consider how long Brett Emerton was allowed to be rubbish yet play regularly - and it's paying dividends now.

Not saying that MGP is crap, but the way you've stated this, it seems that your faith in MGP is so strong, you would be happy for him to be a passenger in the team now. In football, it is always wisest to allow players to find their feet in a team that is already successful. There are so many examples, Arsenal with this Van Persie guy, Chelsea with a no. of players... it is just the way it is. He'll have to be patient, and so will you.

If this is the case, I'm disappointed in Hughes because although he didn't spend the money, I'd have thought it was still his responsibility to try and make the transfer work out. Hughes seems to have the attitude that MGP wasn't his idea so he doesn't have to try and make him fit into his plans - even though the club lose out if it turns out to be 1.5 million down the drain.

No offense, but it seems you are someone who is naturally pessimistic. The squad depth is not great at the moment. Injuries happen. I am 100% certain that if MGP is required due to an injury to one of the players, the 1.5 million will not be a consideration. He will be played. Patience is needed by MGP, and it seems, his vocal fan club.

[1864roverite]

I dont think we have the capacity to play him in the team at the moment. I do think he will be a good player for us when he has fully settled into our way of playing.

[sumps]

Rover6, after todays performance you'd be hard pressed to put a case for MGP to replace Reid or Emerton. MGP's performances in the past have not merited a place in the first team, and Hughes must see something in trainind we don't.

[Ewood Dream]

Since Emerton is excelling he should be put back on his favoured side and thus excel more and despite Reid finding a bit of form, he should be replaced by Gamst-Pedersen. With a team that can hardly defend we need as much attacking threat as possible and Gamst-Pedersen IS a better player than Reid.

[sumps]

So you'd replace a player who is growing in confidence and playing better with one, who has shown nothing?

Reid put in some good challenges today that broke up Liverpool attacks, without these our defence would have been under a lot more pressure.

[greggyk]

So you'd replace a player who is growing in confidence and playing better with one, who has shown nothing?

Reid put in some good challenges today that broke up Liverpool attacks, without these our defence would have been under a lot more pressure.

correct sumps.

MGP has looked very poor every time I've seen him play, for rovers and Norway.

[mooo]

Morten have played great the last matches for both BRFC and Norway - so don't come here and complain about him! Just think of the FEW games he have played again f.ex Man Utd (assist) and Bornemouth (Goal)! And for Norway? Last time he played against Sloveina, he had a wonderful assist, and a goal! And the game before there again - he was rated as the best player on the field!

So don't come here and say that he hasn't preformed well - cuz he have!

Edited October 31, 2004 by mooo

[grizfoot]

All last season we where looking out for a left-winger and we stick Emo there this season and he's done great, he actually looks better on the left IMO.

Maybe MGP will get a game in the FA Cup

[greggyk]

Morten have played great the last matches for both BRFC and Norway - so don't come here and complain about him! Just think of the FEW games he have played again f.ex Man Utd (assist) and Bornemouth (Goal)! And for Norway? Last time he played against Sloveina, he had a wonderful assist, and a goal! And the game before there again - he was rated as the best player on the field!

So don't come here and say that he hasn't preformed well - cuz he have!

so good that he cant get on the rovers bench.

He was average against Man Yoo and was very very poor against Newcastle and Pompey.

Ive seen him play twice for norway, against Wales when he did nothing, and the other time when he came on against scotland. When he should have scored

[Uddersfelt Blue]

There are clearly a few people on this site who are disappointed that MGP is not in the team and of course its a shame that, having had such great expectations of him when he first arrived, we haven't seen them fulfilled.

But frankly we are in a desperate situation and we have to trust that Hughes and the staff are doing everything to try to put it right.

Yesterday we saw some green shoots of what may prove to be a lasting recovery in our fortunes.

I'm sure that MGP will figure in the team at some point but maybe now is not the right time.

If there are financial reasons for not wanting to play him then that is not fair on the lad himself. I hope that is not the case. We clearly have a much better of getting our money back for him (if and when he leaves) if he has made a name for himself in the Premiership and not just for Norway.

[1864roverite]

we still in the fa cup then ?

[herbergeehh]

If the reports are correct, Gamst is very patient and is willing to work hard for a place. There is no doubt in my mind that he will make it, if he just keeps on working like e.g Solskjær has done for United. Because the talent is undoubtably there..

[chris]

I think that Hughes is a big fan of reviewing players based on training, so Pedersen is obviously not doing great in training and, i doubt Jansen is doing well, but players like Reid are doing well.

but on a plus note, apparantly De Pedro is doing a lot better and was even given a rest this week, to have a fit and performing De Pedro in the team could really help the season progress, well if his still got it, he's only just 31 yrs old.

[rover6]

I just wish that Hughes would explain the situation. He's come out and explained that de Pedro's fitness is keeping him out of contention. But in MGP's case, the silence is deafening.

What do you Norwegian guys think about MGP's mental strength? It is possible that him being snubbed so far is going to seriously damage his confidence unless he's got real self-belief.

Edited October 31, 2004 by rover6

[herbergeehh]

I guess Cuidado knows more about this, but my impression of Gamst is that he's a confident player and person, and I hope he'll just push on and work hard. Hopefully, Hughes will have a better record with man management than Souness, the worst thing that could happen is that Gamst is "forgotten" and just ignored.. (like e.g Østenstad)

[rover6]

Do you reckon there's any plausibility in the conspiracy that Hughes wants to avoid paying an appearance fee to Tromso, so isn't playing him? I know people are very sceptical but there seems no other reason in my mind. Especially considering that his last performance involved a goal and an assist against Bournemouth - which was at least a sign he was coming to terms with English football.

[philipl]

I think this appearance fee thing is a load of cobblers. I saw MGP in two televised games playing for Rovers and he was so far out of it, I would have contributed as much had I played even though I don't wear VO75 or even breath it.

That said, MGP looked much more promising against Slovenia for Norway.

His big problem is that he is probably third choice equal with Vratty for left wing.

Emo seemed comfortable on the left yesterday and with Reid and Thomo now available is perhaps unlikely to go back to the right. De Pedro being fit and playing well has the huge advantage over MGP of eleven seasons' top league experience behind him and more knowledge of many opposition players than most Prem players given the influx of Spaniards this season.

I hope MGP breaks through because I think he has promise (statement of faith rather than reason) but to get into the Rovers team he is going to have to displace some well-seasoned internationals which is how it should be at any decent Prem club.

[USABlue]

Would we really have set up an appearance based fee for, what is it 5 games? I wouldn't think so.

[herbergeehh]

It sounds all too cynical to me.. If it was true, I'm sure Gamst would argue that Tromsø deserves money for bringing him through.. We do have quite a lot of players in our squad at the moment, and especially attacking players - it's quite hard to get on the bench actually. We DO need a defender there, a goalkeeper, and that leaves us with three free slots - and players like Stead, Djorkaeff, Gallagher, Jansen, Flitcroft, De Pedro, Gamst to fight for them...