Shevchenko Posted October 12, 2004 Posted October 12, 2004 Andresen back in the team as well. God help us
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tchocky Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Norway 3 - 0 Slovenia Gamst Pedersen started the game, set up the first goal with a sublime throughball, then scored the 2-0 goal himself. Was substituted when there was 15 mins left, after getting an elbow to his head. Thought he was good today - one of the best players on the pitch.
cuidado Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Very good match by Morten. Winning the ball for himself, putting in thru-balls, shooting, running. He was all over, and did very good. Cant wait till saturday!
limbonicsoul Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 The tables has turned! After loosing confidence in MGP in his recent Rovers displays it now seems he is back in form! Havent seen Morten in this good form since he left Tromsø... so head's up Rovers Fans.. ! He is back.. please .. give him some time on the pitch to prove it!!
philipl Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Where was MGP playing? Perhaps Hughes will persist with 4411 which would give an opening for him on Saturday.
92er Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Oh no! He won't be able to play because of a head injury.
Backroom trueblue Posted October 13, 2004 Backroom Posted October 13, 2004 Where was MGP playing? On the same pitch as the rest of the Norway team ???
krislu Posted October 13, 2004 Author Posted October 13, 2004 Don't get too cocky because judging by Slovenia's result they will be beating your bunch of huddies to the play-off place. What was that again?
herbergeehh Posted October 13, 2004 Posted October 13, 2004 Gamst made a positive impression today, working hard both ways and both an assist and a goal. The assist wasn't SUBLIME though, tchocky, it was a good pass - not more! Good game altogether, with Gamst and rightwinger Solli as the star men IMO.
cuidado Posted October 14, 2004 Posted October 14, 2004 He played left midfielder in a flat 4-4-2 formation. Btw, Slovenia beat ITALY with all their stars on Sunday, so outplaying them isnt bad. I heard the back MGP was playing against tonight tucked in zambrotta (i think it was him) last sunday!
rover6 Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 What has Pedersen done to fall foul of Mark Hughes? The only way he's going to adjust to the Premiership is if he PLAYS. At the moment, Hughes seems to hold a prejudice against him and will not give him time on the pitch. Stead has hardly been setting the Premiership alight this season but still get sub appearances (and justifiably so) because he hasn't turned a bad play over night. Amoruso and Matteo have been distinctly crap but are still getting games. Steven Reid has been injured since time immemorial and still gets a game after one reserve match. SO WHY OH WHY will he not play Pedersen. Especially after the guy has just played his best game for a while for Norway and he was showing signs of adapting in his cameo appearance against Bournemouth. The one fail-safe way of ensuring a new player never succeeds is to not play him.
krislu Posted October 17, 2004 Author Posted October 17, 2004 Hard to tell R6, surely Gamst Pedersen should be playing on the left rather than having Emerton out of position and Reid on the right. I would have no problems with Gamst not starting if we had some great players playing instead, but atm we have a really poor team and therfore he should get a chance. Players like Gamst Pedersen and Gallagher should IMO get far more minutes on the pich, along with Stead they are the future of Blackburn Rovers.
den Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 Rover6, Pedersen has been distinctly poor when he's had the opportunity. What would you have the manager do, play all the poorest players hoping they might turn out to be better than what they have shown. Can't see how that's gonna help. At the moment, Morten Gamst Pedersen looks like he wont hack it in the Premiership. He will however still get the odd appearance, when he does he'll have to show that he's worth his place. Up to now, he isn't.
John Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 I dont know how any of us can judge him yet. He has obviously got a lot of potential and he will in time get an opportunity to show us what he is capable of. You just have to look at Rommedahl from Charlton- has been in and out of their team. Players need time to adapt and managers have different ways of helping them with this.
den Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 I dont know how any of us can judge him yet. Because we've seen him play.
John Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 Lucky you were not Thierry Henry's manager in his first season. He would not of impressed you much either...
American Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 Arsenal were not fighting for the top flight future of their club at the time. Big difference. I think most of us would like to see him given a chance, but not with the club in the position we currently are. Then again, he can't be worse than those that have been tried there so far. I'd rather see DePedro given a shot, though, as he has top flight experience.
John Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 Henry was just an example of many players who take time to adapt. The fact he is on the bench ahead of the more experienced De Pedro is a good thing from his point of view. Of course the fact we are struggling does not help. He will get a chance, just chill out guys.
rover6 Posted October 17, 2004 Posted October 17, 2004 Rover6, Pedersen has been distinctly poor when he's had the opportunity. What would you have the manager do, play all the poorest players hoping they might turn out to be better than what they have shown. Can't see how that's gonna help. At the moment, Morten Gamst Pedersen looks like he wont hack it in the Premiership. He will however still get the odd appearance, when he does he'll have to show that he's worth his place. Up to now, he isn't. Fair enough, but it wouldn't harm to give him some sub appearances. And if Matt Jansen and Brett Emerton have proven in the last few games to be good left wingers than I'm a Dutchman. Yours. Van Rover6
cuidado Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 Rover6, Pedersen has been distinctly poor when he's had the opportunity. What would you have the manager do, play all the poorest players hoping they might turn out to be better than what they have shown. Can't see how that's gonna help. At the moment, Morten Gamst Pedersen looks like he wont hack it in the Premiership. He will however still get the odd appearance, when he does he'll have to show that he's worth his place. Up to now, he isn't. And Neill, Gray, Reid, Jansen, Amo, Matteo, Tugay, Ferguson and Dickov HASNT been poor? When MGP shines in the international matches, does that tell you anything? HE NEEDS SUPPORT and will gain confidence for everytime he starts a match or gets on as a sub. Hughes is being ignorant as fck.
tcj_jones Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 (edited) For me the real reason I wouldn't play Pedersen is that he looks ridiculously light weight in the premiership and every time I have seen him play he is just easily brushed off the ball. He has shown nothing as yet for Rovers and needs to adapt to the training regime and play in the reserves before he comes into the first team. I REALLY hope Hughes get somebody to bash him about in training to give him some fight whilst working on building his upper body strength. He could well be very good, but right now he just isn't a premiership player. I'd hate to see him up against one of the best right backs in the world in Ferreira on Saturday, because he'd just be played out of the game. He isn't ready. Edited October 18, 2004 by tcj_jones
herbergeehh Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 (edited) Ferguson has not been poor, correct Cuidado. Neither has Neill and Dickov.. Good point, Tcj_Jones, don't think Ferreira has been very impressing though.. Edited October 18, 2004 by herbergeehh
Radagast Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 And if Matt Jansen and Brett Emerton have proven in the last few games to be good left wingers than I'm a Dutchman. So....Souness was vindicated in not playing Jansen on the left? If you keep back-pedalling like this your chain's going to fall off.
cuidado Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 For me the real reason I wouldn't play Pedersen is that he looks ridiculously light weight in the premiership and every time I have seen him play he is just easily brushed off the ball. He has shown nothing as yet for Rovers and needs to adapt to the training regime and play in the reserves before he comes into the first team. I REALLY hope Hughes get somebody to bash him about in training to give him some fight whilst working on building his upper body strength. He could well be very good, but right now he just isn't a premiership player. I'd hate to see him up against one of the best right backs in the world in Ferreira on Saturday, because he'd just be played out of the game. He isn't ready. Sure, and Jansen/Emerton @ left wing will make Ferreira look like a schoolboy. Right.
tcj_jones Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 (edited) Did I say that? sheash... What I do think is that Jansen or Emerton would give far more than Pedersen would at the moment, Jansen has strength and can beat a man, Emerton plays as a winger and is on top form. Both seem more appropriate to play in this game, though I wouldn't play either. For me Reid would be the best player to play, purely because he has power, strength, pace and tenacity and will atleast provide something , though I think he is far more valuable in central midfield at the moment. Even if I though Pedersen was ready for premiership football, this certainly isn't the right time to play him. Think what will happen to his confidence if he is man handled by Ferriera all match. Edited October 18, 2004 by tcj_jones
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