den Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Had a text this morning off flits mate and he reckons peter reid is talking to us afternoon....hope he is taking the p$$$. houllier no way!!!!!!grrrrrrrrr whoever we get the wingers have a new king to winge at! guiiillet? Must admit Peter Reid came to my mind, we wanted him a few years ago. Terrible appointment that would be though, doesn't bear thinking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lathund Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I would love Ranieri to come if that was possible Sure, why wouldn't anyone in their right mind leave the reigning UEFA Cup champions with players like Ayala, Albelda, Baraja, Fiore, Vicente, Rufete, Aimar, Corradi, Mista, Cañizares and Di Vaio to go to sunny Lancashire and the mighty Rovers??? And after just a few months in charge too. The "fancy foreigner". Never. John Williams isn't stupid. Yeah the Arsenal directors were so incredibly stupid when appointing Wenger What were they thinking???? We all know that only the English can manage clubs well, just look at all the international trophies won by English managers!!! I really don't like when people here (Or on other predominantly British boards) slag off people simply for being foreign. Hitzfeld, who's had one of the hardest and most prestigious jobs in European football (Bayern München) for many years is obviously someone we don't want at Ewood, he's just a useless foreigner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggyk Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Had a text this morning off flits mate and he reckons peter reid is talking to us afternoon....hope he is taking the p$$$. houllier no way!!!!!!grrrrrrrrr whoever we get the wingers have a new king to winge at! guiiillet? Must admit Peter Reid came to my mind, we wanted him a few years ago. Terrible appointment that would be though, doesn't bear thinking about we probably have been talking with him. Along with every manager who has put in an application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Harwood Yankee Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I'd love to know who are the applicants so far. Report say 12 applicants, maybe half of them are ones we have thought of. I'd say it includes: 1. Bryan Robson (desperate, applies for everything. Probably forced to apply on his Jobseekers Allowance form) 2. Mike Newell (we could do worse) 3. Stan Ternent (yea right. Dream on, dingle) 4. Craig Brown (no thanks) 5. Walter Smith (see Craig Brown) In other words, I'd be surprised if Strachan, Hughes, Venables, Moyes or any of the other more capable suggestions have thrown their hat in the ring. I predict another long tenure for Tony Parkes. We might even see players starting in the positions they were bought to play in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownie Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Had a nice wager on Strachan at 7-1 11/2 Hughes 6/1 Paul Jewell, Gerard Houllier 7/1 Strachan 9/1 Mike Newell 12/1 Kenny Dalglish, David O'Leary, Dean Saunders, Alan Shearer 14/1 George Graham, David Moyes, Tony Parkes 20/1 Glenn Hoddle, Terry Venables 25/1 Bryan Robson, Sir Clive Woodward 33/1 Colin Hendry, Sir Bobby Robson 40/1 Sam Allardyce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeeeeeedie Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Yeah the Arsenal directors were so incredibly stupid when appointing Wenger What were they thinking???? We all know that only the English can manage clubs well, just look at all the international trophies won by English managers!!! I really don't like when people here (Or on other predominantly British boards) slag off people simply for being foreign. Hitzfeld, who's had one of the hardest and most prestigious jobs in European football (Bayern München) for many years is obviously someone we don't want at Ewood, he's just a useless foreigner I guess I must clarify myself here. I do not think that only English/British people can manage teams. I am merely stating that for a club of our meagre stature a well known foreign coach would not fit in. We are a very close knit small East Lancashire club. We are not in London. If you've ever visited I hope you'd see that straight away. London caters to the world, it has everything anybody wants, East Lancs has never been labelled as cosmopolitan; not from my experience anyway. Wenger has done well at Arsenal: I'm not having a go at foreign managers, I'm just saying that it takes a special type to understand the locals and what they want. Hitzfeld is a good manager too, but you won't find many German brasseries on Darwen street. Manchester is the closest big city, it is having a resurgence but it's nowhere near London as a cultural melting pot. I cannot remember what your fellow countryman, Martin Dahlin, said after his very unsuccessful spell at Ewood but it wasn't very flattering toward East Lancashire and its people. As for the predominantly British boards slagging off non-Brits. What do you expect? Everyone sticks up for their own kind, but that is another thread on another board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brownie Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 The best indication of who will come is on Betfair. That is the 1st place you will see action. Souness' price fell all weekend. Hughes is currently 6-1 with Strachan 7-1. No betting on Shearer or Dalglish Newell 7-1, Houllier 12-1 and Jewell 16-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue phil Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Talk Sport at this moment are discussing the situation and quote Strachan as saying he's not interested in the Scotland job for at least 4 years . Incredibly Souness is on a 5 year contract at newcastle ; could be very expensive for them if he doesn't perform quickly , with an already suspicious Geordie crowd "behind" him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancashirelass Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 I would love it to be Martin O Neill, but I think it could be one from a few. Houllier, Bobby Robson, Mike Newell, Mark hughes Nice to see Parkes reinstated as the caretaker manager. Lets see all the players that have fallen out with souness back in the squad. Andy Todd and Gally welcome back. Hope it is not Ternant!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Producer Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Does anyone have any stats for Strachan that include money spent etc? Because I'm still very confused about where he has this good reputation from, e.g. if you look at the current Soton team that he built. I hope we get some idea of who the board is going to appoint before it's set in stone, in case we get the same level of completely underwhelming candidate that Newcastle fans have got (vs. who they could have got), so we can try to make the board realise the error of any appalling decisions, e.g. Walter Smith or Bryan Robson. From the reaction of Newcastle fans, I still wonder whether Souness will get sacked before he even starts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) I guess I must clarify myself here. I do not think that only English/British people can manage teams. I am merely stating that for a club of our meagre stature a well known foreign coach would not fit in. We are a very close knit small East Lancashire club. We are not in London. If you've ever visited I hope you'd see that straight away. London caters to the world, it has everything anybody wants, East Lancs has never been labelled as cosmopolitan; not from my experience anyway. Wenger has done well at Arsenal: I'm not having a go at foreign managers, I'm just saying that it takes a special type to understand the locals and what they want. Hitzfeld is a good manager too, but you won't find many German brasseries on Darwen street. Manchester is the closest big city, it is having a resurgence but it's nowhere near London as a cultural melting pot. I cannot remember what your fellow countryman, Martin Dahlin, said after his very unsuccessful spell at Ewood but it wasn't very flattering toward East Lancashire and its people. I know you probably weren't saying that, but putting it that way makes the point come across much clearer Just like there's a big difference between Lancashire (And yes, I've been there. Only once though, for the Leicester game last season. I'll go again if we have a looong run without home wins ) and London, there's a big difference between Stockholm and, say, Bjurträsk. Maybe all those years in Rome and London has changed SGE, but seeing where he grew up (Torsby, Värmland) and really started his coaching career (Here in Gothenburg) I don't think he'd find Lancashire bad at all. Can't say I know enough about Hitzfeld to say he's the same, but I'd suspect that the Ruhr area (And others) in Germany are quite similar to Lancashire. Oh btw, I've never been to Liverpool, but as they can attract players/manager, then so whould we (Ofcourse taking into account that our club doesn't enjoy the same reputation) seeing as it's not far away and, from what I've heard, certainly not the nicest of places. Obviously people are different, but I certainly don't go to a Swedish/typical N. European resturant if I'm abroad. Not that the food is bad, it's just that I'm not in Sweden. Some people enjoy the differences. My impression of Lancashire was that the people were really friendly, the surroundings were quite nice for the most part but that the cities, buildings etc were... let's just say that I've seen nicer Martin Dahlin has always been a bit of a ###### tho. EDIT: The "slagging off" part too; I know everyone sticks up for their own, but if we were to keep this football-related then there's certainly a difference in the attitude towards foreigners between Sweden and the UK. Some of it can ofcourse be attributed to the fact that our league isn't very good and that most foreigners who play here are among the better ones in their teams (You don't really buy someone from abroad to sit on the bench) but not all. If a foreigner fails to do well and is outside the team just picking up their paychecks, you don't automatically get the "lazy, useless foreign @#/?" comments that you would in the PL. You'd hear the same thing if it was a Swedish player, and that would be the above minus the "foreign" part. There's obviously more racism in other aspects of society, but that's best left to another thread as you say. Edited September 6, 2004 by Lathund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baarree Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Have a look at East Lancashire again, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lathund Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Have a look at East Lancashire again, I didn't see very much and talk to very many people, so I may have been lucky Or maybe it was that I expected it to be REALLY REALLY bad after hearing what people had told me, so that the fact that it wasn't as bad as expected made it look much better? But we're getting a bit OT now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover6 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) My picks, in order of preference are: Iain Dowie Chris Coleman Luigi Del Neri Paul Jewell Jewell is definitely the most realistic. His Wigan team play attractive football with wingers. Seeing as we've just bought Pedersen and have Emerton, it would be stupid to bring in say a 3-5-2 man like Hoddle. He's got a track record of getting the best out of youngsters, and judging by the rave reports our u18s are getting, we have a great crop of young players who will need to be developed. He's got a bit of Premiership experience with Bradford, getting promoted and keeping them up was a major feat, even if it delayed the inevitable. Having worked in the north for all his managerial career, they're should be no problems working for Rovers. Negatives - Failed at Sheffied Wednesday. May decide he wants to finish off his job at Wigan by getting them up. Wigan will demand compensation - and a lot of it I suspect. Edited September 6, 2004 by rover6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizfoot Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Gordon Strachen or Sir Bobby, one of them would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accyrover Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) John Williams has said there's been over a dozen applications already. He reckons there'll be an appointment not earlier than the Newcastle game. My preferences :- Gordon Strachan Mark Hughes Chris Coleman Sam the Walrus from The Breezeblock Rather not see at Ewood : Steve McMahon David Moyes Houllier (pleas God, no !) Sir Bobby (sorry, great guy, too old) Colin Hendry (too inexperienced yet) Mike Newell (as with Big Col) Glenda Hobble, Eileen Drury and the God Squad Ginaluca Vialli No chance (but would love to see) : Otto Hitz-what's-his-name Phillipe Troussier Frank Rikjaard Luis Phillipe Scolari Claudio Ranieri Only in my worst nightmares : Sven (with attractive baggage) Houllier (again) Stanley Turnip Paul Sturrock Neil Warnock Craig Brown Grabbi as player manager Andy Cole / Dwight Yorke (as joint player managers) The Krankies Worries : Souness raiding us in the mid season transfer window (bye bye Ferguson, Stead, Neill and Brad ?) John Williams having a brainstorm and appointing Houllier Terry Venables Hopes : Souness takes Amoruso with him Positives : Refs might like us again and give us some penalties Souness has gone stale, lost the dressing room and any tactical nouse he once had has buggered off up Bolton Road. Playing Gresko in midfield FFS ! Dean Saunders and Phil Boersma (AKA Doctor Death) will bog off up the A1. Great ! Cheers ! Accyrover Edited September 6, 2004 by accyrover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McClarky Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 We should have waived the compensation if Souness took Amoruso with him. My first choics is Strachan as he is a good laugh but I'm not sure after that. He might be waiting for the Scotland job though which he has been tipped for and will probably be available this week as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasyte Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Worries : Souness raiding us in the mid season transfer window (bye bye Ferguson, Stead, Neill and Brad ?) My first thought after I head he was leaving... although, if Emerton left, I wouldnt be too bothered I really fear a bid for Barry Ferguson though. I Cm with Butt and ferguson in it could be lethal, especially behind Kluivert and Bellamy, both who could thrive off of Ferguson's forward movement. As for next manager, I think there +'s and -'s for a lot of the names (Huhes, Strachan, etc), but god forbit Houllier, El tel or Hoddle take over. Or Robson, for that matter. Personal choice would be Hughes Newell combo. I think what both could bring to the club would be beneficial, and Hughes would be able to keep the Wales job through to failing to qualify for the WC06. Only prob with that is: a. What'd happen to Parkes... loyal servant of the club cant be fired. b. Would Newell even consider being a number 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) Jewell would be interesting as I go to the same barber as him so could pass-on Jim & rover6's tactical advice, but for me it has to be Strachan (he might bring Beattie back at Christmas). Edited September 6, 2004 by Laurence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizfoot Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Craig Short as Player Manager anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSheppard Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 a popular choice is not the answer its an eperienced choice that matters on this occasion. More than likely Strachan Houlier Hughes How is Mark Hughes any more experienced than Jewell, Sturrock et al.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rover6 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 My first choics is Strachan as he is a good laugh but I'm not sure after that. Good reason. Sorry, I don't see Strachan being a good manager. He always struggled with Coventry on tight resources, buying dubious players, and eventually going down and getting the sack. Imho, his success at Southampton was all down to the good foundations set by Glenn Hoddle. It was Hoddle who revived their fortunes, helped certain players to top form, and Strachan took the credit. He may be a funny bloke but let's get a serious manager in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james19830822 Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Sorry if someone metioned before According to skysports , "Strachan revealed he is not currently keen to coach his country and has lent his support to the pressurised Vogts. " Link Perhaps we have a chance to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USABlue Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 Nigel Worthington (My first choice) or Martin O'Neill, that leaves Nigel Worthington though he is most likely happy where he is. Strachan? See Coventry City. Shearer? See Colin Hendry (one many here wanted before) Newell? Has Possibilities of success and the same possiblities of going tits up Dowie? Like it. Megson? Thought you lot did not like demonstrative touchline managers, he would drown out the Blackburn End. Venables, Not no, but HELL NO Hoddle, I would not mind, he was actually my first choice when we appointed Souness. Does bring some bad press but I don't have to hear the pisstakes like you lot do. Hughes, No did well at first but utimately failed when it was theirs to lose, and lose it they did. Ternent, good bloke for a specific job, we are not that job. Can build a solid squad for a while but dull dumb and boring football is not what we want, plus we have a youth system and Stanleh has a reputation for not liking youth. Steve McMahon, mmm bit of a gamble did OK at Blackpool but is OK good enough for you lot? Steve Cotterill, Well he's already been at BUrnleh longer than Stoke has'nt he? (Just Kidding) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greggyk Posted September 6, 2004 Share Posted September 6, 2004 (edited) My first choics is Strachan as he is a good laugh but I'm not sure after that. Good reason. Sorry, I don't see Strachan being a good manager. He always struggled with Coventry on tight resources, buying dubious players, and eventually going down and getting the sack. Imho, his success at Southampton was all down to the good foundations set by Glenn Hoddle. It was Hoddle who revived their fortunes, helped certain players to top form, and Strachan took the credit. He may be a funny bloke but let's get a serious manager in. Coventry only went down because they had to sell their star players such as Robbie Keane and Dion Dublin. And most of saints players were all bought by Gordon Strachen. He also got the best out of Beattie and created a great partnership of Beattie and Phillips. Didnt he sign their great goalie and players such as Michael Svenson Also, Steve McMahon did a crap job at Blackpool. They never even challenged for promotion did they!!! Edited September 6, 2004 by greggyk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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