stevos Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) Hitzfield Strachan In the name of all things holy not Hoddle, El Tel or George 'this money's for charity' Graham - I'd rather have Stevie Wonder than either of the previous 3 Edited September 7, 2004 by stevos
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stevos Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) Not Sven either, he's already backed out of a deal with us in the past. Edited September 7, 2004 by stevos
philipl Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) One aspect worth remembering is that we have also lost most of the backroom. Perhaps this will cause the board to lean towards an established Manager who knows what back room team he needs rather than managers who have not had chance to build that sort of team- Newell or Hughes. I am concerned about the youth set-up which is facing a complete change since before the summer. Not the best way to keep the Academy players loyal to the club. Incidentally, I will be fascinated to read jim's suggestion for next manager. Edited September 7, 2004 by philipl
samtheozzy Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) Youth players can't afford to pick and choose Phil, they'll pretty much do what they're told. Edited September 7, 2004 by samtheozzy
stevos Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I'm not sure how much of a loss Saunders is? Has he definitely taken Mullary etc? It sounds ridiculous but i think Vialli would do a decent job.
neil roscoe Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Hope Saunders and crew leave too. Strachan for me, but Newell sounds like a good bet.
bubblerrovers Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 I really hope we appoint a good motivater along the line's of strachan as we have a better squad than he had with the saints yet they were always a hard to to beat. Also he seems like a manager who makes an effort with the players unlike souness. I don't seem the point of a big name foreign manager as we don't have the quality or money for it too work. Mark Hughes would be good but not sure he'd come to rovers.
stevos Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) nah i dont reckon newell will have the know how or tools. I wouldn't min dspaky hughes at the healm. ps anyone else in oz sick to the back teeth of arsenal, chelsea, boro and newcastle being on foxtel every f***ing week? Edited September 7, 2004 by stevos
FourLaneBlue Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 We need to be realistic about what sort of manager we can attract. We are either going to get someone who has a mixed past as manager or a promising up-and-coming coach. We aren't going to attract managers who have had a glittering, success-filled career. We may be an attractive proposition for many managers or prospective managers but let's not get silly. Mentioning the likes of Hitzfeld or Eriksson is just a waste of time really as it ain't gonna happen in a month of sundays. So, we can go for those who have had positive as well as negative times in their career such as Strachan, Worthington (not great at Blackpool), Houllier or Jewell (although to be fair Alex Ferguson wouldn't have been able to do much at Sheff Wed at that time) or the likes of Dowie, Adams, Newell who are too new to the old managerial game to know which way they will ultimately turn out. It'd be nice if we ALL at least got behind the new manager and gave him a chance. Other than perhaps Hoddle (whose comments about the disabled were repugnant) they all deserve that courtesy at least. I've been thinking though... You want stability yeah? Someone who is loyal to a club for years and years? You want to play attractive football, passing the ball around and attacking? You want a manager who has slowly but surely dragged a team kicking and screaming up the league ladder? You want someone who puts his faith in the youth setup and brings forward talented young players time after time after time? You want someone who may not be completely impossible to tempt here? There's only one man in the English game that possesses all those qualities... Step forward forward Mr... Dario Gradi.
Living On The Ceiling Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 First post from me on here and I have quietly been assessing the activity over at Betfair and there is definite signs that the once Rangers manager is perhaps on his way to Ewood Park. From an initial 38 the Dutchman is now trading at just 14. I am well aware that these markets can sometimes lead one up the wrong path on this occasion I would go as far to say that there is 'something in the pipeline'. I could well be wrong of course! Other 'positives' are (relatively I might add) PAUL JEWELL PETER READ 'Negatives' (NOT looking like these two will be getting the job) GERARD HOULLIER ALEC MACLEISH (out with the washing this one) LOTC
Rovermatt Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 How much was Souness being paid annually? I distinctly remember a sum of £2m being mentioned. That is more money than Benitez is earning at Anfield. If so, there are plenty of managers who would be attracted by such sums.
Alan75 Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 First post from me on here and I have quietly been assessing the activity over at Betfair and there is definite signs that the once Rangers manager is perhaps on his way to Ewood Park. Welcome to the board, a good first post. Sorry but I merged it but we try not to start new posts when there is an existing topic regarding the same item. cheers Alan
philipl Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Rovermatt, that is a point I made before Souness left when I was challenged to name serious alternative to Souness. It is easier to name the clubs paying more to their managers than Souness was paid: Newcastle, Boro, Man U, Brum, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Fulham (perhaps). On that basis, Souness was probably amongst the twenty best paid club managers in Europe whilst he was at Rovers. It also means open season for whoever we want outside the G14 and a few chairmen with more money than sense. I would guess the Board would like to start the new man on less than Souey was on but even so, it will be enough to be of interest to Hitzfeld, Troussier et al.
Paul Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 First post from me on here and I have quietly been assessing the activity over at Betfair and there is definite signs that the once Rangers manager is perhaps on his way to Ewood Park. From an initial 38 the Dutchman is now trading at just 14. I am well aware that these markets can sometimes lead one up the wrong path on this occasion I would go as far to say that there is 'something in the pipeline'. I could well be wrong of course! Other 'positives' are (relatively I might add) PAUL JEWELL PETER READ 'Negatives' (NOT looking like these two will be getting the job) GERARD HOULLIER ALEC MACLEISH (out with the washing this one) LOTC As my gambling habits focus on an occassional Grand National office sweepstake and a raffle ticket at the cricket club annual prize night....................could someone please explain how Betfair works? I don't see any odds that I recognise in the traditional sense........2/1 etc It would be good to be able to keep up with this!
Jim J Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 How about somebody (who knows what there doing) posting a daily list of odds on the next manager, then we can see who has gone up and down in the list.
Spicey Mullet Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Just not Houlier - please In a small town club you need a big personality and plenty charisma to have the guts to take on the big guns - someone like Strachan would be ideal and Shearer definitely doesn't have the right make up to be a good manager. . . haven't seen any talk about Colin Hendry yet but must surely be an outsider???
Siriwan Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Luis Fernández. Plenty of international experience in France and Spain, as player and manager. One of the ebst managers i've ever seen, he won leagues and European trophies with PSG before coming to take charge of Athletic de Bilbao, runner-up with no foreigners at all in 1997-98, and later he saved Espanyol from relegation. He took the team absolutely sunk and saved the season miracolously. But he hasn't any experience in the Premiership and don't know if he knows English. Only dreaming. I only ask for one thing to the new manager. A little bit more confidence in the young players than Graeme had. They're the best we ha in the squad IMHO.
stuwilky Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 As my gambling habits focus on an occassional Grand National office sweepstake and a raffle ticket at the cricket club annual prize night....................could someone please explain how Betfair works? I don't see any odds that I recognise in the traditional sense........2/1 etc It would be good to be able to keep up with this! Betfair is a bit different in terms of betting, basically you aren't betting against the bookie as in traditional betting, you are betting against other people. You can choose either to back soemthing (which is traditional betting) or to lay something (which is what a bookie would do). Crap explanation by me - so (courtesy of betfair) When you back an outcome, you want that outcome to happen. For example, if you back Henman at Odds of 3.1 for £100, you want Henman to win. Your total return if he wins, is £310 (including your stake), and your maximum loss is £100 (your stake). Laying an outcome is the opposite of backing it: it is betting that an outcome will NOT happen. This is what bookmakers traditionally do. For example, if you lay Derby County at Odds of 4.0 for £100, you think it is sufficiently unlikely that Derby will win that you offer Traditional Odds of 3/1 against it. Your total return, if Derby lose or draw, is £100 (i.e. the stake), and your maximum loss is £300 (which is what you would have to pay out). In effect you are accepting other people's bets who want Derby to win. So where odds are quoted as 3. That would be the same as 2/1. (ie bet £100 - win £200 plus your stake back)
arrowsm Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 It has to be Strachan or Sparky for me. Strachan's my preferred option - his post match interviews should keep us all entertained. Jewell or Newell may well do a job for us but I have my doubts about them right at this moment. In a few years time maybe... The one person I could not stand to see as manager is Hoddle. I can't see him doing a job at Rovers (or anywhere else for that matter).
Lathund Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Dario Gradi. Now that's an interesting name. However would he leave Crewe? I'm sure he must've gotten plenty of job offers during his time there, and yet he's still there. Maybe TOO loyal for us, eh?
Paul Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Thanks stuwilky............think I'll leave my wallet in my pocket.......nothing new there
Shaddy Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 The vibes at games - home and away - have been very different from what is portrayed on these pages. A few individuals have made this forum into an anti-Souness collective and anyone who uses this as their sole window onto the Rovers world is not getting the real picture. He may not be as popular now as he was after promotion, Cardiff and 6th in the league, but the vast majority of Rovers fans remained solidly behind Souness. Thanks Tris. It maybe you just telling me what I wanted to hear, but I am still glad I've heard it. Reading this page, I was quite dejected at the number of supporters so against someone who was great for the club. I kept telling myself, 'surely this isn't indicative of the wider support base', and at least you cast the first contrary argument to all those that thought Souness had passed his expiry date.
Blue and White Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 (edited) Someone who's main priority every season isn't simply to keep us in the Premiership. Someone who can get the best out of our players, as I believe we have some serious quality. Someone with massive ambitions. Edited September 7, 2004 by Blue and White
Howard Gayle RulesOK Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 - Walter Smith or Peter Reid (recommended by Souness) Why were these jokers recommended by Souness? These two spud sacks are the last people who i'd want. Is Moyes completely out of the equation BTW?
Brownie Posted September 7, 2004 Posted September 7, 2004 Just had a call from my mate who works in the media and he says there is only name in the frame and he's asked me to lump a bet on Betfair for him. (And he's a tightarse !) Strachan is the man. Betfair offering 7-1 , get on while you can !
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