MCMC1875 Posted October 18, 2004 Posted October 18, 2004 First out the door? The door itself. Then fit a bigger door to avoid the rush. Neill, Amoruso, Matteo, Johannson, Gresko, Tugay, Flitcroft, de Pedro, etc, etc. This squad is so devoid of quality and skill you could make your own list and I'd struggle to mount an arguement supporting any particular player, in fact the chances are I probably couldn't be bothered. This is what Hughes has to contend with. Stick Newsham and Caley on the list.
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LeChuck Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 The Sunday Mirror is reporting that . If we could get the same price we paid for him then I would snap their hands off and use all the money to buy three players - two midfielders and a central defender. Barry is good but not good enough to compensate for the problems elsewhere, if we could get two midfielders to replace him then I think we should do it.
pksrover Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 matteo, flitcroft, tugay, dickov, amoruso should hit the road... I really miss Cole! I wasn't happy when Dickov came, cause I was pretty sure if he came, Souness would throw our best striker out of the club. That was unforgiveable by Soey to give Cole away, we need a player like him now!! of course we need some defenders aswell...
tcj_jones Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 LeChuck, I totally understand wanting to offload Ferguson if the price were right but in the january window? Surely not? He is the only thing keeping the team together. Central midfielders are hard to come by right now, especially in the mould of Ferguson, and if we are in a position where we need points, and quick, completely rebuilding our midfield will be suicide. By the time our new players have had time to settle and adapt to our style of play and Hughes training regime, we could already be too far away for them to make any difference. Keep it simple in January, bring in two centre backs and leave the rest be. If we can bring in a central midfielder to partner Ferguson that would be excellent, but to replace him leaves us in the same position we are in now but with a player of far less quality. Bring in the players in January, get rid of the people they are replacing, but leave everything else to the summer. A decision of this magnitude in January is too great to risk.
G Somerset Rover Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 I do agree that a centre half is the priority, but surely a striker comes a close second before a midfielder. At current I don't think any of our top guns wil get 5 or more this season. Surely a risk on Ellington (Just as an example) and a centre half is required in Jan?
chris Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 (edited) everytime I see Ferguson play I always think, he out the door soon, I just know he is going to leave really soon, so its quite strange having him captain Anyway I think the players I would like/expect sold are Ferguson to Newcastle 8 million Amoruso to Rangers 400,000 Dickov to Doncaster 50,000 Gresko to an italian club 250,000 Edited October 24, 2004 by chris
American Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 I do agree that a centre half is the priority, but surely a striker comes a close second before a midfielder. At current I don't think any of our top guns wil get 5 or more this season. Surely a risk on Ellington (Just as an example) and a centre half is required in Jan? Disagree, I think if we had a GOOD defensive central midfielder to partner with Ferguson, that would help our offense and defense. It would provide more cover for the back, and allow Barry to make more runs forward.
Ewood Dream Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 OUT A.S.A.P. Garry Flitcroft Dominic Matteo Tugay Lorenzo Amoruso Vratislav Gresko Matt Jansen (goal vs. Pompey yet again inspired false-hope)
G Somerset Rover Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 I do agree that a centre half is the priority, but surely a striker comes a close second before a midfielder. At current I don't think any of our top guns wil get 5 or more this season. Surely a risk on Ellington (Just as an example) and a centre half is required in Jan? Disagree, I think if we had a GOOD defensive central midfielder to partner with Ferguson, that would help our offense and defense. It would provide more cover for the back, and allow Barry to make more runs forward. Yeah true mate, but Barry scoring 5+ a season isn't going to solve our scoring problems is it. Surely Reid or Thompson could do a half decent job in there, thus allowing us to bring in a striker who could teach the rest a thing or two.
92er Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 There are players who we need to bring in for virtually every position. However, the first player I would like to get rid of would be Amuroso-clearly not worth £30,000 per week.
Oklahoma Posted October 24, 2004 Posted October 24, 2004 Amoruso, Matteo, Flitcroft... Wait!! With the exception of Friedel, I don't mind who leaves. Of course some for a good amount of money but some I would gladly let them go for free.
Blueboy Downunder Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 why de pedro?? the guy is not fully match fit, although you'd think he should be by now and other than that has not really been given a chance. talk about inspiring false hope, it is us fans that get excited about things, yet when it don't happen we all of a sudden want to kick the players out.
Blue blood Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 The Sunday Mirror is reporting that . If we could get the same price we paid for him then I would snap their hands off and use all the money to buy three players - two midfielders and a central defender. Barry is good but not good enough to compensate for the problems elsewhere, if we could get two midfielders to replace him then I think we should do it. Totally agree. Ferguson's one of the few good player's we've got but the likelihood is he'll be leaving either for Newcastle in January, or if we're relegated. And though Ferguson's good, he's not as good as three decent players (a midfielder, centre back and striker) that £7m could bring. From last season and pre season spending it appears that we've no money whatsoever, and it's vital that the team has funds to bring in new faces.
Duff's Minder Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 surely the lesson of the last 18 months is that you don't get anywhere by selling your best players and bringing in 2 or 3 mediocre ones to replace them? That's the policy that Souness followed and we've ended up with a large, mediocre squad. Everyone on our bench on saturday is equally as good as the ones on the pitch it's the quality players like Fergie we need to build around. We need to trim the squad down by 5 or 6 players (Nissa, Reid, Amo, Gresko, Jansen etc.) use the lower wage-bill to bring in a couple of top quality free-transfers and give the youngsters a chance.
broadsword Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 OK, let's keep Ferguson, not bring in enough to buy any decent players (since no-one wants our duds) and sail into the Nationwide with Fergie at the helm!
Hughesy Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 The Sunday Mirror is reporting that . If we could get the same price we paid for him then I would snap their hands off and use all the money to buy three players - two midfielders and a central defender. Barry is good but not good enough to compensate for the problems elsewhere, if we could get two midfielders to replace him then I think we should do it. Totally agree. Ferguson's one of the few good player's we've got but the likelihood is he'll be leaving either for Newcastle in January, or if we're relegated. And though Ferguson's good, he's not as good as three decent players (a midfielder, centre back and striker) that £7m could bring. From last season and pre season spending it appears that we've no money whatsoever, and it's vital that the team has funds to bring in new faces. £3 million Dunn £2 million Gabbidon £2 million Savage Henchoz free
American Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 I do agree that a centre half is the priority, but surely a striker comes a close second before a midfielder. At current I don't think any of our top guns wil get 5 or more this season. Surely a risk on Ellington (Just as an example) and a centre half is required in Jan? Disagree, I think if we had a GOOD defensive central midfielder to partner with Ferguson, that would help our offense and defense. It would provide more cover for the back, and allow Barry to make more runs forward. Yeah true mate, but Barry scoring 5+ a season isn't going to solve our scoring problems is it. Surely Reid or Thompson could do a half decent job in there, thus allowing us to bring in a striker who could teach the rest a thing or two. I think him scoring 5-10 goals and creating space for Gallagher/Stead/Bothroyd would help us solve our scoring problems.
NewburyRover Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 I know this isn't the most constructive of exercises, but I thought I'd throw in my two peneth too... So players who just aren't up to the job: Ammo NEJ Todd Flitcroft Reid Dickov Boothroyd (harsh I know as not had a chance to impress, but he's not, well, impressed me yet) So that's 7 players right away, and worryingly, 7 regular 1st team players, which I think sums up why we are where we are - a lack of quality.
emglch Posted October 25, 2004 Posted October 25, 2004 Deserve to go, Matteo: Neither a defender nor a midfielder. Not premiership class. Flitcroft: Thanks but your time has caught up. Tugay: Was class but not anymore. At the door, Reid: Not good enough so far. Hasn't realized the promised potential. and what was his best position? Amoruso: Even Short is better. Gresko: You should at least challenge Gray's position given his current form.
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