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Uncouth Garb - The BRFCS Store
Everything posted by glen9mullan
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A nice chap, played in community trust football game with him at end of last season. Really down to earth and really pleased for him that he can invest his hard earned money into something he loves. Yes it's not a watch, but ultimately if his sponsorship is more revenue than the Peter Jackson, from a business perspective it needs to be done. I'm sure it wasn't out the blue for Peter Jackson and they would of held talks about renewing at more favourable terms for the club, which they didn't want to meet. Finding out four days before the season starts that they are going to go with someone else which is more commercially viable was more than likely the end result of negotiations, rather than BTW we don't want you any more
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Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
glen9mullan replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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I think what people were expecting to see was questions asked , followed by answer in a minuted format. Also as its been made clear by oldjamfan, its for members only, can we start seeing statements referring to asking questions for members rather than the supporter base? The Trust does not represent me, therefore I don't want gerneralism of supporters suggesting they do.
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My belief is Waggott is leaving this season, retiring with a extremely good pension (clubs contribution is mental). So model is clear , which he is driving. Spend as little as possible, (these 1 year deals ain't his problem when he rides off).keep supporter base quiet, as next seasons mess will see the chickens come home to roost. Suhail, similar on a kings ransom , zero pressure here or in india to do anything bar ensure lights stay on. This is representative of a coaching model, where the manager coaches what he is given with no clear targets for achievement. Remember since these two been running the show, they ain't sacked a manager, both have resigned!!! End of season a new smuck arrives and repeat repeat. The protests in the stands last season nearly saw Waggott depart, he openly stated to me maybe its time to go home. Whoever persuaded him to stay I don't know, as he was beaten. It won't take much to push both these out and at that point I think the for sale sign goes up.
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Its not that though Mike and as I said earlier it's not a personal attack on the people. I'm questioning why the entity continues to have meetings which no one sees minutes. This is just another meeting with the club that is not reported as many others. The fans forum were crucified last week, unfairly. Sadly if your head goes above the parapet you are gonna face questions (I have learnt to live with it)
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In that case, make your statement clear you represent the circa 300-400 members only , Be clear what the trusts purpose is and your stance, so we can make an informed decision if we want to be members or not. Right now as I ve said numerous times , I.do not know what the Trust end game is. Also many members are BRFCS, so by definition you are answerable. What a very strange statement to make As a former secretary of the trust, to not understand this is worrying .
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I'm sorry Mike, there is zero excuse to not inform it was/has happened. Reports, minutes, agreed facts is something completely different.. A Democratic voice is transparency I've asked many questions on this thread and every one of them have been completely ignored. At this time I.do not believe the trust represents my views , as I can't get s clear answer.whst the trust views are.
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Duncan as we discussed Yesterday and you know my stance as my belief in you. This should of been communicated it was happening and its happened. Minutes can come later. The trust does not control the supporter base, however it has a duty to be transparent and like the club things not to come out via other channels. Will the trust be endorsing protests? Remember none of these post are personal, it's asking questions of an entity not the people or efforts they put in
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All I know is I've told waggott and India that organised protest are coming and these will be communicated in advance, liaising with both the police and Council. Anything not communicated which could be illegal is not part of an organised element and I've distanced myself from anything which breaks the law
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And the board? Suhail? Had the members voted on this? Do the Trust support the organised protest for the removal of Suhail , Waggott and for Venkys to.sell the club , which has been communicated by me to both the club and on the message board I'd done this?
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What is the Trust current stance on Waggott, Suhail and Venkys , do they want them to go? One of the biggest things always reeled out is the lack of communication from the club. I thought long and hard before posting this post, as I've a lot of time for some of the trust board. However when the first meeting ever held with Suhail occurred 3 days ago and this has not been communicated in any way publicly then the word "Trust" to those you seek or claim to represent somewhat goes out the window. The Fans forum have taken some flak from some quarters the last few weeks for putting their heads above the parapets and the trust has remained silent. This meeting which no doubt will now be communicated should of been communicated 3 days ago.
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BRFCS Pre-Season 24/25 Prediction Competition
glen9mullan replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Let’s have your predictions for the following: 1. Winners of the Championship sheff united 2. Runners-up in the Championship Burnley 3. Championship Play-off final winners Leeds 4. Where will Rovers finish the season? 20th 5. Which 3 clubs will be relegated from the Championship? Portsmouth, Rovers , Luton 6. Who will be the first club in the Championship to change manager? (For whatever reason) LEEDS 7. Who will be the BRFCS Player of the Season? (As voted for in the Match Centre on BRFCS) Trondstadt 8. A wildcard prediction for something (possibly quite mad) that will happen to or at Rovers during this coming season will be without manager and CEO at same point in time in season -
He has the biggest bullseye on his back, along with the owners and CEO. All need to go, or nest year it might be 3000 adult season tickets
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As a company director and ceo accountability is in stone , the variables , interference , lack of power makes it even more so that his head should roll . Many people hold responsibility, but under uk lawa and the Fa laws the accountability lands at the sitting directors.
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Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas
glen9mullan replied to DuffsLeftPeg's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I emailed SW on Thursday to advise D-Day , highlighting the 4000 adult season tickets , and that the organised element over land and sea IS returning. He acknowledged receipt, stating always happy to meet up. I asked him to do an interview with me via a podcast with zero media spin so the real questions can be asked and answered for all to hear , rather than a select few and the embarrassing minutes we've seen to date- 909 replies
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There is zero case to be made for retaining the CEO. Yes we've signed some players (we couldn't exactly go into the season with none) However the facts remain Wharton, Gent, Raya, Wahlsedt, Gallagher, Telalovic, Ennis funds ain't been reinvested adequately We've signed 4 x free transfers (3 of which on one year deals and in their 30s) , a striker for 600k before any add ons , a striker for 150k both could easily turn out to be Telalovic as easy as they could be a Szmodics. Where the next 20m windfall from this lot is coming from I don't know, given we are constantly told we will buy young and cheap,polish and sell at big profit. We've got more heads of this and that to replace one Director of football. 4000 adult season tickets (let that sink in) had we not had £23 kids season tickets I dread to think the total sales . Another low value shirt sponsorship deal despite more tv coverage. I know quite a few people like Waggott who speak regularly with him. However this ain't about how nice someone can be or if they ring you with snippets of information or appear to listen to you. This is about the general performance of the club he heads up. He is 100% accountable. Of course there are others that need to go like Suhail and Venkys , but ultimately anyone who thinks his performance is acceptable should be nowhere near him, as this is not representative of the majority
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That was quick , and there was me thinking David Dein and Arsene Wenger were coming to save us
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My memory of the history of the trust. Duncan Miller tried extremely hard long before the hard days to get a trust off the ground, (a modern day visionary really, as if we knew then what we know now, the support he needed would of been forthcoming.) I recall a meeting where Mark Ashworth , James Fallon and Duncan were doing the paperwork to get the supporters direct on board and get that important piece of paper to form a trust after probably 2 years of effort. Then Venkys started the dismantling , which saw Dan Grabko propose a business plan to form an entity/trust unbeknown that only one trust can exists. Wayne brought the business plan to me, where I gave it an evaluation. The concept was good but the delivery was more if we was real madrid. Wayne and I both put a lot of time in rewriting this with Dan, to create an entity with the sole purpose of being there to take up the reigns if Venkys put the club into administration. We reached out to some significant investors but also allowed every fan an opportunity to own a stake in a new ownership model. We gained MP and influential local businesses buy in, but with another trust existing unless the two entities merge, with that piece of paper bring the key thing needed, neither trust could progress. The trust set up an elected board made up of the two entities. I opted to be a member but not at that time get involved in running the trust as the lack of traction had already sent me down the path to form the democratically elected Action Group , which was free and had 10 fold the membership. It also had some huge influential supporters from Mps to knights of the realm to businessman fir example Wayne Hemingway was a patron as was Lord Patel amongst others. The Action group always existed to hold those in charge accountable, whereas the trust was the back up plan. Interestingly the trust met up with Battersby ect but could not form an mutual agreement. There was frustration from the action group that publicly the trust was remaining quiet, though privately the trust did fund some of the protest movement from personal donations (not from trust funds). It was the action group who formed the picture of what had occurred at rovers releasing the smoking gun proving the club had broken the rules. The action group were the group who went to the FA, Premier League, Football league and importantly Parliament, which instigated the independent regulator and fan lead review. The trust were NOT involved in any of this, though have provided input into the fan lead review amongst other supporter organisations since. It was around this time I was elected onto the FSA national Council to drive further pressure into the heart of the national games authorities. Once the corruption was removed from the club I opted to stand down from the Action Group, I'd done my time and was asked to become the secretary of the Rovers trust. I took on this role, and the trust remit remained the same. On the pitch and around the club things were starting to improve though we had dropped to league one , anger was replaced with optimism on the back of the clubs promotion back to the championship. I stood down from the Trust, for personal reasons as my position had become untenable due to me leaving WEC where I was a company director, to become a company director elsewhere. It was important that personal relationship strains didn't affect the trusts path to succeeding. What happened after then I don't know bar a full change of guard and significant membership drop. What the trust aims are now, I'm still unsure as I don't recall a mandate change during my time . What I do know its a lot of effort for free, which at times has you thinking "why do I bother" I can also say a pressure group is something the trust has never been or claimed to be, which somewhat has always been a handicap. The trust is bound by governance and rules as set out by supporters direct and by its own mandate. JWs statement on the TV last year that its never as good at it currently was , will haunt many a supporter for years to come. Ad it was not representative of the majority of supporters, but because it was done in an official capacity as the Chairman of the trust , it was a positive move for a change of the guard once more. Like the fans forum, all who put their time in , do so because they ate passionate supporters. It's easy to criticse from afar, but believe me the effort it takes to drive these things is mammoth and they should be applauded for trying their best within the remits they have
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Keep plugging away, it's a very difficult job to be on a panel as opinions often differ. It's far easier to represent a group with a set remit, as the opinions tend to be far more uniformed. Minutes which must go through the club are always going to be contentious as its does not put meat on the bones , and to my best knowledge no one from the forum since its inception has ever broke ranks to elaborate on what was said. Its not a critism its an observation which supports the need for the on meetings to return in conjunction with the forum. Me personally, I don't like to be tied to these rules. Every meeting I've ever had I've reported nearly word for word what was said, and without the club censoring me. As things start to ramp in terms of a direct opposition to the regime, it would be my intention to remain transparent as I always have. My loyalty is to the badge, town and heritage , not some employees who profit from the very things we all want to see protected
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Appears some good things were asked but the absence of some key points. 1. Poor communication continues as those on charge continually duck and dive from the media. 2. Nothing regarding supporter unrest and the likely possibility of protests 3. Open meetings again don't make the minutes and the FF cannot be deemed as an adequate replacement 4.Nothing mentioned that again we are waking into a season with players on last year of their contracts. 5. No mention of why abrupt departures of GB amongst others, do we have a new project again? I thank those giving their time attending, but clearly the answers given publicly are not acceptable
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I asked a simple question on twitter a few days ago , of the 16 who were okay with current ownership , only 4 were rovers fans. The other 12 in their bios were either PNE or Burnley.