I'm not too sure he is in Bouremouth, hearing he will be at our training ground

Seems Ewood and India are not in sink, we have been here so many times. There is no way Venkys sanction a transfer to a direct rival, its a £200 million decision, and regardless of what they'd like to do at Ewood, you have to be pretty good of making a case for Bouremouth. Rovers should of played this behind closed doors, regardless of players request to speak to a club. Hundreds of players linked with moves all over the world today but how many of their clubs have come out publically and stated the player has asked to speak to them, totally compromising the idea of any deal falling through and the player being reintegrated into the squad. We are gearing up for the Premier League on the pitch, but off the pitch we are again showing why we are amateurish at best and need better in that boardroom

I dont believe the owners stance has ever changed, regardless of where JR is.

Thought i'd re-post WAGGOTT interview with radio lancs from September https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09wkr8f

He said clearly in bbc radio lancs interview that due to the pandemic, the figures the players think they can get elsewhere are just not there.

I agree, handled well is when he dont end up at Bouremouth, christ i would take Burnley other them especially if we miss out on automatic promotion to Bouremouth. Regardless of players wishes, money on table, Bouremouth should be flat no

As my post says further down, i'd not sell to a rlval, and if itl costs rovers a 200 million windfall at the end of the season, i'd sack the lot of them for cashing in.

They come, they go..... If he completes deal to Bournemouth, although not an ideal destination from our promotion hopes point of view, then he goes. He has been integral in getting us to 2nd in the table, and without him, we wouldnt be in second. I'm thankful for his efforts, and wish things were different and our contract offer was better and it had been signed. Club made it clear, August, September, October and November if these deals were not signed then they would look to sell them. Rovers sudden turn in fortunes on the pitch has complicated that stance. Waggott publically stated in radio lancs interview that the contract rebels felt they can get more money elsewhere, he stated that it was unlikely, and those contracts are no longer available, and people are not banging the door down to sign them. In the end the club has followed through with its threat, no better terms and allegedly accepted a bid. The player has asked to speak to them, and decided he wants out now. I personally don't think all the blame is Joe's, we've had months to offer better terms and have chosen not to. Lessons need to be learnt, personally i'd have never let him join a promotion rival in this window, but its not my job to pay the bills. New hero's will step up, one player dont make a team, we get our attacking players fit and confinue to be tight at the back we will be okay. We will sign a couple tomorrow and would of done regardless of Rothwell, Its easy to dwell, but it wont change what will be will be

Given the guy who said he wouldnt be sold owns the club, i think it was decent source. But no dufferent source

Just someone who has come up trumps before, not heard it myself from the usuals, but as its turning into rothwell thread thought i'd put it out there so we can consider incomings

We were beaten to his signature by Derby too, so one we've followed closely. Be surprised though if a target now, centre midfield is where we will try and strengthen. That being said we did play a right back as an attacking right forward yesterday and a centre back up front. So Tombola Tony's philosophy if you have 2 feet you can play anywhere 1-11 wouldnt surprise me if we buy a keeper instead

A name thats cropped up, no club, short deal end of season, not sure money be a lot. Dont know if much in it, was mentioned in passing.

More interested in incomings now, Obi Mikel Curtis Giles I'm sure be lots of names banded about over next few hours

Trying to extract from my brain last time Rovers announced a new signing on a sunday? and i'm struggling. Nice pick up this, cheap, low risk and a body in the building when we are desperate for them. No pressure on the player, and decent length of contract

We can give lots of scenarios, 1. A number of players wanted loan moves august and this month, but were told then and now, no despite them not getting game time. Do we freeze these out? Do we get on their case? 2. Mulgrew was told he wouldnt play and was totally gobsmacked when club accepted wigan loan offer, he never asked to leave. Returned to club, trained like a real pro, but was never considered again. 3. Nelsen was frozen out, everyone told injured for the lomg term, sold 24 hours later lined up for spurs 72 hours later. 4. Salgago - frozen out 5. Rhodes denied move, stayed another 12 months, played and scored. 6. Gestede wanted to leave in January, stayed til summer, continued to perform with credit 7. Sutton wanted out the season before he went. Many of the above was not made public at the time, but came out long after the event. Club has gone public to force this through. There is always different sides to a story and so many players will be sat there tomorrow around the country wondering where they will be Tuesday. If their move does not happen for any particular reason, they will likely line up for their current clubs come saturday Rothwells situation is not unique, its just football

You've asked the question, I've given you my thoughts. He will knuckle down, As have others within the current squad in similar circumstances 😉

I dont see this scenario if he has to stay. He is out of contract in the summer, how he conducts himself between now and then would have a massive baring where he ends up. If he acts unprofessional, interest will start to disappear. Other clubs and managers do their homework, no one wants to bring a sulking player into their set up, or a player who had down tools. There is some high profile players at big clubs rotting in the reserves due to their lack of professionalism. There is also a big promotion bonus carrot, nothing he has done on the pitch this season has been anything less than committed. He has asked the club to consider the offers and to let him explore it, its the clubs perogative to say yes or no whilst he is a contracted player, he knows where we are in the league, and also knows he has contributed to that. He also knows rovers even with a promotion couldnt entertain the wages he is likely been offered elsewhere. Joe leaving now or the summer will happen, we cant offer him a wage that dwarfs the rest of the squad. I suspect if he ends up staying, he will work, train and play even harder to ensure he has great options in the summer. Rothwell falling off the map does his future no favours, the best way to get that top move in the summer, is by playing games and impacting our team in a positive way.

No one will probably get the full story, as opinion always comes into play whoever you speak to. We have been here before though, Mulgrew springs to mind, Danny Graham too after watching his comments on a podcast, Smallwood. Once TM makes his mind up, thats it, you are gone. I think the interview as many interviews have been at Ewood during the Venkys reign, was a direct message to India, a direct ploy to force their hand. They will be be getting told, and also shown selective screenshots that the supporters want Rothwell gone, due to his actions to get them to change their stance. Its a dangeous move with the clock ticking, but one which has been used time and time again. Its also one which saw Venkys take Shaw to court for going renegade against their wishes. I saw most all the internal communication during the Berg farce, and you really couldnt make it up to what lengths people will go to. This is very much like the Rhodes to Middlesbrough transfer that didnt happen. Venkys said no, and meant no. Those at Ewood were actively trying to get rid, in the end venkys pulled the rug, he stayed, knuckled down and continued to play and score. Either way, the distraction is not needed in our current league position

I'm sure whoever we sign, Rothwell will be long forgotten. When Dack got injured, it really did affect us, but we've had to learn to live with it, we've changed our style somewhat, but also had a season prior to this of mediocrity in his absence. We are second in the table and Joe has been integral to that, with some moments of individual brilliance getting a few games over the line which we'd probably not have won. Bournemouth away was one of those in particular. This is slightly different than in other seasons, we are slap bang in a real automatic promotion fight. I'm not hearing murmurs of for example Mitrovic leaving Fulham in this window, or other key players from Bouremouth, QPR ect. Leaving. Can we keep the player now? No chance, its out there publically, in a lot of cases the supporter base has spoken and turned on Rothwell. The next 36 hours or so will define this clubs season. We needed 2 or 3, before this bombshell, we need 4 or 5 now in my opinion. If we do not go up, and we are currently second, with the form in the book and there because over 28 games have proved to be the 2nd best team in the division.. Then this 36 hours will be the reason for this. We need players who impact the best 11, and in TMs own words, we have to come out the transfer window stronger than we went in.

I like this post, History is repeating itself too. Armstrong sold in summer because of contract running down, Club relying on 1 year option on Brereton and Kaminski, rather than tieing them both down now to longer. Lots left for nothing in summer, others out of contract this summer, its really poor from the clubs administration that we are having so many contract issues, and not learning from it. Don't get me started on sell on clauses either, clueless comes to mind

Was certainly not a classic, but when I saw the line up, with Khadra added to those missing, i thought we were up against it. Could'nt see who was going to create, and who was going to score. It proved the case, really low on quality. That being said, christ the lads were brave, committed and gave everything against a very physical/dirty Luton to grab an unlikely point. This won't go down as a classic, but will go down as a game where every man stood up to be counted. At one stage we had 7 academy lads on the pitch, 2 loanees, a free transfer and Kaminski, when Ayala came on that became 2 free transfers. The cost of that team today, if you take away Gallagher, is frightening, and if anything shows how little has been invested in the squad in terms of players bought. We had lots of square pegs/ round holes at various stages of the game, but the lads never gave up. Its a pity the Rothwell saga has taken a bit of gloss off the game. Another clean sheet, 4 points this week. 2nd place on points and on merit. Great reaction following the Hull game

In fairness to Rothwell, if someone was offering me upto 4 x my salary or even doubling my salary i'd want that conversation as would 95% of the population. Its football, but its still a job that pays the bills. Not many players have the emotional attachment to a club. A couple of years ago Dack was devastated his injury had potentially goosed his dream of premier league and the riches that come with it. Players will always come, always go and someone else takes the shirt. Had we been lurking around in midtable this be already a done deal. We've missed his creativity the last couple of games, but 2 x clean sheets shows what Johnson brings to the team.

I really hope the Rothwell situation does not park what was already growing situation. Our injury list is growing, our need for at least 1 striker and midfielder and possible wide player (hedges) was needed prior to todays game. Rothwell now going, and another fullback injury in my opinion now needs us needing 1 striker, 2 midfielders and another full back option at left back given pickering already out and Edun possibly now joining him. Gallagher injured again today, does that mean possibly 2 strikers needed? Lots of football to be played but injuries and future suspensions are really going to hurt us if we dont address the needs we had prior to the Rothwell bombshell. Rothwell money should be direct replacement, not make it stretch for 2, 3 or 4 players. We are in a promotion battle, now is not the time to find a rough diamond, now we need solid options who walk straight into the team and inprove us from day 1. If and its a big if, we went up, the likelyhood is we'd have to replace most of our first 11 anyway just to stay up

A sale of at least one of the three out of contract is not new news, Waggott has publically stated 3 or 4 times if the contracts remain unsigned then they would look to cut losses in January. Its poor timing from JR, but the idiots at Ewood have to take the responsibility for putting us in this position, and welcoming bids from September onwards too. The scary thing, is we have not learnt our lesson, other contracts are ticking down and we are not getting a grip of these either. Second in table, a growing injury list, and now a cloud which had blown from the incompetence of the board, in not forseeing the path we were on. He needs to go now, as no real way back, but if we end up worse off after the window, then the idiots in the boardroom need to follow, as we are unlikely to get a better chance of promotion than we have right now. We've gone from needing 2 or 3 players to potentially needing 4 or 5 given the injuries and now pending departures

Tm aint had direct contact with the owners for nearly a year, he has no new contract on the table. I dont think this is as cut and dried of listening to TM. Monday be interesting, common sense would be sell, get the cash and buy better. Problem is, sell and buy no-one of same calibre and they will just take the losses. They will also be questioning Waggots contract offer too, is it a fair offer? Is it a "self preservation offer"? Its widely known the powers that be at Ewood like to throw out, how much they've saved the club on losses. They will also be looking at the Armstrong deal which was royally foooked up by our board. Prediction??? More jobs on the line here than JR if they foook this up