Booth, genuinely, you don't half talk absolute bollocks and like a few others tonight, 3/4 of your argument is in your head. You've really got carried away with yourself and I don't like the tactic of trying to construct an opinion on my behalf. My opinion has been clear. It's gone from me saying Mowbray was a decent appointment for us...to people going full on Top Trumps, playing only with two shit cards. RE JDT, there is post after post on here of posters saying 7th is a massive achievement. Loads of them. These folk completely undervalue us and see past the shite that has been in the play-offs when we have missed out. It wasn't a strong league from Burnley down. Genuinely, only WE could've messed it up last season. Other parts of your argument/reply is SO full of nonsense - so I have to reply. I am not defending David Gest's ill-fitting and bog-eyed corpse by any means, but seeing as you brought him up...did he sell OUR valuable striker Brereton at the very same time? No he didn't. Other parts (re uncertainty). Not my argument but countless teams get promoted with players under clouds of uncertainty. Sheffield Utd had financial difficulties. Watford in the past had about 4 managers and loads of loanees. Even the Dingles have had a team half-full of short-term players. The rest of what you say is the usual mis-guided smarm mixed with luke-warm wit - which is a shame. There is literally no point batting it back and forth with you when I wanted a grown up debate/chat. Unfortunately, it hasn't happened and now I'm reduced to discussing a limp failure finishing in 7th, over a boring failure finishing in 8th or 9th. Ultimately, I am happy both moved on and I live in hope of an improvement. My opinion is failure is failure. None of it has been good enough and we are on the edge of disaster. We aren't going to agree and that's perfectly fine by me. If you fancy a civilized chat in the future, all good. If not, no problem either. It's obvious though, I don't fit in with the hive mind on here. All the best 👍

The argument is in your head my friend. I think we are heading down - hence why I am not a happy bunny and I am glad that through default, someone else will be managing us because this guy has thrown in the towel. Facts are, we are absolutely toothless and leaderless. We are in freefall. We have been rock bottom of the form table for weeks now and have been beaten (often battered) by Sheffield Wed, Huddersfield, QPR. We have conceded 3 or more in 5 of the last 10 games and that is because we are so poor at the basics, rather than being unpicked by great play. It is dire and people seem hypnotised or distracted (on here) by how bad it actually is. Anyway, goodnight, God bless and fingers crossed we manage to stay up because we won't bounce back this time.

Seriously, has this site got a direct link to Calderstones these days or something?? Owen Coyle, Brockhall Ping Pong Champion, was the catalyst and reason for relegation. Mowbray turned up well into February and a few games too late. Anyone who thinks other than that isn't worth the conversation.

Do people pine for him? I haven't looked on here for years so it is a genuine question.

You said about players going and the project changing were reasons for them dropping off a cliff. If you didn't mean that, be clearer. Also, stop with the nonsense of trying to undermine the fact that Mowbray was a very decent appointment for us at the time. So with the greatest respect, stick to the solid facts yourself. The guy got us promoted and we were securely in the Championship off the back of it. He'd took us as far as he was capable of but strangely, took his next team higher than JDT managed. ...But talk about mind-blowing, someone else making 7th out to be an achievement - when the mighty Luton got promoted on a shoestring and Mowbray's Sunderland made the play-offs. It's no wonder this club is fucked from top to bottom. Apart from the failures of the owners and board, it blows my mind the acceptance and celebration of absolute mediocrity on here and how passive we have been with underachievement, disorganisation, mistakes, missed-opportunities and toothless displays. We get the product we deserve I suppose - but I believe we can do better and we should be demanding better.

JDT's tactics have been good for Szmodics on a personal sense (goals) but that lad is a winner and facts are, we don't win anymore. He looked absolutely fed up on Saturday for quite a while. I do feel as though his head had gone and he downed-tools the other day. We are too much of a soft touch and there was a lot of overplaying with the ball. Almost no urgency, again.

Who went last January exactly?? I am the one accused of re-writing history by a JDT fan boy (sorry, I didn't notice the name)...but I seem to recollect us wobbling around the Burnley game, then Preston...being really indifferent for a couple of months...then not winning for 9 games at the end of the season and finally winning on the last game when it was out of our hands. That has been rewritten as a success by some on here. Not winning in 9 games and missing out on the playoffs on goal difference after being in the top 6 for months. We failed. He failed. He achieved nothing more than Gary Bowyer. He is a sulky bottler who has himself, rather than us, at heart.

Why?? The guy who got us promoted from League One straight away wasn't a good appointment all of a sudden? Him who gave the club a lot of heart, signed some very capable players who, had we not let them run their contracts down, would've generated millions (yes...and some crap!) but levelled off. It blows my mind how blinkered or distracted fans are on here that they can't see that JDT isn't actually doing a great job...yet he is some sort of God/mmartyr purely because he has a whinge about the absolute numpties above him.

Sorry, only read the first few lines. I am not re-writing history. We had a damn good start to last season and dropped off the cliff. After weeks, we sorted ourselves out a bit but failed. We amassed less points than Gary Bowyer achieved. This season, we were good on and off for a few months. Then absolutely shit since before the Christmas decorations were put up, then taken down...then we completed Dry January and now getting ready to order a dozen roses. There's only one person re-writing history. It ain't me.

No, JDT's run is worse but both managers have had multiple crap runs of results. But that make me think that we (the fans) are part of the problem. Being so abject and accepting of such low standards. Those of us who still bother going barely make a peep at the utter dross that has been served up at Ewood this season. I've lost count of the defeats at home. I've lost count of the goals conceded. I know when we face relegation fodder, we make the look like world beaters and I have NEVER seen such abolutely dogshit defending in forty-odd years of going to Ewood. Apparently, we now have players who can't cope with a few boos in the midst of a run of 1 win in 11. How weak-minded can they be? Genuine question - at what point does JDT shoulder any of the blame for that (to some of you on here)?

Mowbray was a very good appointment. He just ran his course.

Yes you can. Have a look back through the results from last January...it's his job to pick the team, coach the team, drive the team on...surely he is culpable for the horrendous run of results, abject performances, cock-ups, missed opportunities etc? I know Steve Kean would've been. (Excuse my language).

You are good at scraping the positives...whereas I see the negatives and failures. I don't want to clog up the feed debating it but I do value your opinion. I am glad he is going because I have been certain for weeks that what is unfolding was always coming. We can do better than him and one win in eleven is pitiful when you have a guy with twenty-odd goals. Sort the defending, we stay up. If we don't, down we'll go.

If we didn't, my bad. Apathy makes the mind ebb away. That is splitting hairs though. The rest is true. As we stand, since 2001, we haven't been in a promotion position for the league that matters. He led us to more failure and it blows my mind why there is so much love for a manager who is almost incapable of getting points from anything but a winning position. Only we could have messed up that last season and it followed suit from the previous couple of seasons. Nearly men who bottled it.

Whoopee. Multi-millionaire relocates for massively-paid job. So with a level-head - he was a bit of a cup run better than Bowyer and Mowbray? Surrendered a two goal lead in the Quarter Finals, then capitulated in the league from there on in. Being the Devil's Advocate - he is the 'achiever' of our worst run in ddecades.He is at the helm of the team with our worst goals conceded in years and years...and the only manager (alongside Mowbray) to have a team in the promotion spots for X amount of weeks and fail to get the play-offs. The atmosphere is stale, our home form is abysmal... Not great.