Glad for the win but no need to get carried away. We scraped our way past the worst side in the division and are still showing me nothing to suggest Ismael is a good choice for manager.

Ohashi is leagues better than Gueye and we missed him a lot. Still think that he shouldn't be starting in a team with ambition, but certainly a valuable squad player.

Anyone who doesn't have hamstrings made of Weetabix is an improvement on JRC at this point unfortunately.

You know full well the fact we came back from 2 down has given Ismael at least another 6 months in the job though.

We'd still lose against nine so I wouldn't worry too much.

It's a good job we played Burnley in January before JE left because the result with this lot would make that JDT Turf Moor performance look like a miracle.

I've heard so much about how well training is going and how VI is putting his touch on the squad. If that's the case wtf is he teaching them because we are utterly incapable of any basic fundamental of football, attacking or defending.

You say that but it would be their perfect excuse for them not to invest anything (not that they will anyway).

Glad I went out last night and didn't bother with the game, because we are oh so predictable. At any other club Ismael and Gestede especially would be sacked this weekend. Neither of them are capable of their roles and I cannot imagine what on earth they saw from Ismael's demeanour and attitude that made him think "yes, this is the perfect manager for a team of lower league misfits who are performing on the vibes of team spirit". He is literally the exact opposite of the criteria I'd have been looking for to finish the season.

Head says we'll get another pasting and do nothing, but history tells us that once the pressure is off and we write the table off the players learn how to play. That said, I don't see it under Ismael because he's absolutely clueless. Rovers 0-2 Boro, Rovers to have 2 shots all game.

11 points behind us as it stands. Highly unlikely but knowing us under Venkys I wouldn't put it past them to finish above us at the rate both teams are going.

That's where I'm at now. Acting as if managers being sacked all the time as the same as a manager leaving us for the BOTTOM OF THE LEAGUE. Clear that they made zero effort to keep him. This whole interview is so unbelievably predictable and at no point so far has any accountability been taken.

Considering some of the guff we've signed this season, I'd argue Gestede should be packing his bags too. Yet another example of why you don't hire amateurs at this level of football.

It's not going to get any better for us either, the teams he's had to play so far have been some of the worst the league. Insipid, uninspiring dross and is 100% a reflection of him as a manager.

You clearly didn't warch 90% of the games under Southgate then. 17 shots, albeit not a lot of quality in them. Gareth would have sat with 2 DMs passing it around the back 6 for 45 mins. Things won't change overnight.

We're actually creating chances. Under Southgate we'd create one or two chances all game in a tie like this. Only criticisms so far is that a few have clearly been chosen on name value alone (Rashford, James for example) and our shooting has been poor.

And that season under Mowbray where we were in and around the automatics. If I remember rightly at the time no one had ever missed out on the play-offs from where we were at that time, and now we're making an awful regular habit out of it - and only a couple of people stand to benefit from it.

Wrong man for the job, right man for Swag and the owners.

He's already talking about doing a full rebuild in the summer. Imagine instead of having to rebuild with a new manager we every season we actually back the ones we have when in a good position? Crazy I know. Dour football, dour personality, zero motivation and has turned us into cannon fodder. Next season is going to be awful.

Was it? I don't think there's much in it to be completely honest. Szmodics is leagues better than anyone who has come in under Gestede, with the exception on maybe Beck, but he's not our player.

At this point the players not being paid would be a blessing in disguise. Though I'd be seriously questioning why not being as even without Venkys we should have the money from Wharton/Szmodics/Raya etc to pay them. If it were the case I'd also be asking why Waggott gets such a big pay rise. I mean, I'm asking that anyway, but especially so in that instance.

The results aren't even the worst part, it's the performances. Even at our worst under Eustace, there wasn't the petulance we're seeing under Ismael. In addition, Ismael seems to have no interest in motivating the team whatsoever, sitting on his ass scribbling on his pad. Under him we play with no intensity, create nothing offensively and have regressed significantly at the back against some of the worst sides in the division. He's got 2 weeks now to show a significant improvement, but I just don't see it. This has a Gestede power play written all over it and he shouldn't be at the club either.

They'll fly past us next season if he keeps them up.

Don't forget Captain Coyle being what, 3 or 4 down at half time on his first game of that season? I imagine that turned quicker! That said, I reckon that Coyle team would have battered what Ismael put out there last night. Him talking about the second half being better is utter delusion - I don't think I've ever seen a team look less arsed about attacking.

Their keeper literally made 2 saves and did nothing else the entire game. The game was just so bad in general and they had to give it to somebody. We had no attacking threat. In fact, we arguably created more for Stoke than ourselves.