And this guy was deemed to be fit and proper?. no wonder the game is in a mess. It seems to be full of more crooks and vagabonds, than your average prison.

I think it was his daughters boyfriend from what I heard and he denied any connection allegedly.

You can find that and wonder if he is fit and proper, but the football authorities couldn't. As we have seen with other dangerous people owning football clubs, if you know the right people it doesn't really matter. I assume it was Dale, who was so fit and proper he signed a Mortgage agreement that had an interest rate of 128%. Its as though he was setting this up to fail, so that his £1 turned into millions, almost over night. Someone will love Bury enough to rescue them at the death. The sad thing is, if he goes away for a couple of years and keeps his head down, they will let him repeat his trick again, with another unfortunate club.

I don't wish bad things on many people, but I have to make the odd exception and here is one.

Its quite remarkable really that the individual who was most responsible for this, got away with what he did. when you look at the way, he manipulated the change of management, brought about signings that had third party ownership written all over them and somehow got his son a premier league players contract, is beyond belief. I shudder to think how much he must have made out of it and like you say, it's not surprising that at least 3 of the companies, involved in the acquisition have been wound up. There are still people at work, trying to rid Rovers of Venky's as it still feels dirty that they are still involved.

Plenty of fans have decided to bury their heads in the sand and just suppport the team. As mentioned on this thread, lots of this will be hidden forever, but it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. I will never accept as some people do, that we would have eventually been relegated anyway, so it doesn’t matter. The owners and the other people involved, cost the club our premier league place. Had we remained there for another couple of seasons, we would now be enjoying the even greater riches now on offer, instead of surviving and striving to get back. Venkys ruined our club, so let’s not forget

I’ve said it until I am blue in the face. Do not trust Venkys. Have they ever explained what was going on in the early days and why for example, Coyle was from the same stable? People say they were badly advised, but too many things point to them being complicit. until the come out and explain, what was and probably still is going on, I will remain fearful of the clubs future.

We had a couple of decent chances. Buckley could have made a name for himself, but blazed over, from a good ball in from Gallagher

Them were the days. I had a few games in the same side as Mark too. He was at Darwen Vale, so played against him for our school team every year as well. Good days those were.

Last time the Clarets tried that one, it was a warm up for the Orient game in 1987. The cones won 1-0.

I think Saturday is huge now and expect the crowd to turn on him if we lose and the recent traits continue.

Perhaps he thinks we are doing well. Only conceded one, so far.

I'm on to Grand children now, having one aged five. He lives and goes to school in the Preston area, but already owns two Rovers kits and won't let anyone say a wrong word about us. His mum is a staunch supporter of course, as is his Uncle Simon.

I genuinely think that a lot of the problems here are down to the owners not being hands on and us having no one in authority to make the final decisions on spending. Yes the two fees for Gallagher and Brereton look way too high, but if we had a hands on chairman, who has the best intentions of the club, to sanction, or question the signings, perhaps these two wouldn't have happened and a different defence would now be available.

From what I have read on another article Deloitte and the other firm of accountants that came in, did so, as there was money going missing that couldn't be explained. It seems that their forensic accountancy work, found out what the problem was and sorted it.

I remember both Stonehouse and Lowey well. Both steady enough players and sad to hear of their passing.

Perhaps he could get himself sacked for going on the lash and we can then sign him as a free agent.

Six points minimum from those, starting with 3 V Boro next week. ?

Last week was bad. Today was always going to be tough. Sitting bottom never feels nice, but I see us getting better over the next few weeks. Tosin looks good and once we have Lenihan playing alongside him and Cunningham in the side, we will be stronger and will stop shipping poor goals. Their first today was a good strike and not a lot you can do, We won’t threaten the top six I’m afraid, but I’m sure we will finish higher than last season.

Playing out from the back, but looks dodgy

Fulham playing a very dangerous game playing out from the back. We have pressed them and come close to making something off it a couple of times. Great strike by Cairney. Thought the defence were far better than last week. Tosin looks class. Gallagher having a good game too.

It reminds me a bit of a former manager that who said we could go on a 10 game winning streak now, but we haven't got 10 games left? WTF is all that about?

That's exactly why I firmly believe that they owners have not learned their lessons. I am convinced Mowbray would not have said what he did, had he not meant it, but here we are 3 months later and it hasn't been sorted. There are still outside influences in my opinion, affecting what goes on and that has happened since the very day the owners turned up.

They tickets did go on sale and were withdrawn again, as the fans kicked off about the prices. the main gripe was there are no season tickets on sale at the minute and the season ticket holders missed a match last year, as their last home game V Brentford was cancelled. They were priced at £24 and no reductions for last seasons season ticket holders. I don't know if the are having a rethink about the process, given the reaction, or there is something more sinister going on. Serious trouble ensues come what may though.

I find it incredible to be honest that certain people think that the past is the past and lessons have been learnt. Venkys will never learn their lessons and hiding away in India, funding the club for some strange reason, does not mean they have learned their lessons. They still have no proper structure or plan for the club and just lurch from one disaster to another. Do not be surprised to see a relegation battle again this year, another managerial casualty and some cheap chancer brought in to put it right.