If only there was a realistic way to make this work as I'd absolutely snap your hand off

Totally agree, 16/1 is bonkers - though I can't find better than 14/1.

We were 8/1 to get relegated, given our window and paper thin squad I think they were long odds, and 16/1 now (though I can't find better than 14/1) is incredible value as personally I am not falling for the good start to the season.. as much as I hope i am wrong.

16/1 is bountiful. It's not really like that Odds move, let's see where we're at in 8 weeks. I truly hope we're 25/1, I just can't see it

Why ridiculous? Losing 12 players and 54% of our goals and replacing them with 4 loans and a chap from Lincoln having finished 15th last year would put have us below 15th, for me. This solid start doesn't have me fooled, we're a few injuries from the next death spiral. I'd actually put it to you that asking that if I think 16/1 is generous, when I have just stated 8/1 looks generous, is ridiculous.

Fair, the fact they own us is relevant.

Completely irrelevant

Blows my mind that they don't have more ambition than conning some Indian chicken farmers into thinking they are good at their jobs.

I will give you the good start, far better than we could have dreamt of. However, what happens when we get a few injuries? We have absolutely no depth. And - you don't think replacing 54% of our goals last season was an absolutely necessity? You also think Mowbray will change from his insistence of playing our £12m strike force on the wing? The only way I can see us being top 10 is Mowbray's hand is forced and he HAS to play Gallagher down the middle and we have a huge slice of luck and Ayala doesn't get injured all season - highly unlikely given his history. In reality, if we can go on the mother of all death spirals of 2 wins in 17 last year, when we had a 28 goal striker and a mercurial talent that is now starting for Liverpool, how do you expect us to BETTER that this year when we've lost 12 players, 54% of our goals, brought in a few kids on loan and a chap from Lincoln?

8/1 to be relegated at the start of the season now looks generous after this utter shit show

LOVE IT Still believe we'll desperately need these points to stay in this league come the end of the season, but for now I'll enjoy the win

Game #1 of Mowbray death spiral no.437

Good shout to get this thread warmed up again, it's going to get very busy over the next few weeks.

Welcome back to Mowbray land.

Get f8cked, Balaji

Get f*cked, Balaji

It's done. 11 players gone & none through the door, a clueless manager who took us on our worst run is history last year, wretched owners who don't give a shit and even if they do something about the current regime will likely replace with some other clown(s), most of our goals last yr about to be sold with little or no reinvestment promised - and who'd back Mowbray to spend it wisely in any case, an arguably stronger league with the teams who have come in etc etc 8/1 is ridiculous, hopefully it'll soften the pain.

Agreed

What's the f6cking point

Wow, what a post. Says exactly how I feel in ways I couldn't hope to

I've considered the same but if we're still here after the decade of utter nonsense we've had to put up with, then I think we're here come what may.. lunatics!

Spot on. It's absolute madness that any of us believed he was going to be sacked with the current structure at the club. If a Senior or Singh character was suddenly parachuted in from nowhere then I'd believe it could happen. Again (again again again) though; it'll be temporary relief until Tony f8cking Pulis turns up in his f8cking tracksuit. Nothing ever changes until Venkys decide they can't be arsed anymore - which I genuinely predict will be post 2030.

I agree 2 home games is a bit ambitious, but make no mistake this is the ONLY way he is leaving; under his own steam because the nasty fans are being mean to him. So he's getting a gob full from me every game (I can stomach attending) until he f8cks off.

Remember when a few 'ITKers' on here posted that Mowbray was about to be sacked LOL

This'll be the only way he leaves. Venkys don't give a f8ck and so won't sack him. I'll be giving him both barrels from the off for his woeful under-performance and his pathetic self preservation sound bites in the press. It'll feel lovely but will only be short lived as in truth it'll mean the rats just go and employ another clown.