Plenty of examples of reactionary tosh that has no relevance to the current context of the season / team.

In context - anyone who thinks the most sensible decision would be to sack a manager 90 minutes into a season, knows nothing about football. This has nothing to do with arguments calling for his head going back months, I’m talking about that single reaction. Even those who want a better manager surely appreciate that 1 game in, is not the time to make such decisions.

We play Oldham in the cup in a week, you’ll be able to see for yourself when about 5000 turn up.

Only one (a rather famous BRFCS) lad, who sees the Nyambe/Bennett thing differently to me - However he also felt that we largely played well but lost due to some classic shithousery Many of the comments around me yesterday seemed to lamenting our poor final third stuff. I have to say that I don’t think it’s my place to suggest a manager “isn’t learning” since I’m not presented with the myriad of decisions he has to make, I (like you) only see the final “product” so to speak, so I wouldn’t be assuming TM sits in his office thinking certain players we have are better than they are. I also think the complete overhaul job from bottom of the championship to league 1, to the playoffs and back into the prem, is an incredibly difficult task; with not many managing it! Some fair points - comparing to the jobs Coyle or Kean did, the way Berg and Lambert seemingly had their hands tied; it’s not much to be better. I also think that highlights just out difficult it is to fix something fundamentally broken by continuous decline. The expectations we all have this season is predominantly down to the good job done so far in my opinion.

I’d hope TM makes his decision based on what he and his staff see, not his perception of what the fans want.

Had this discussion lots already - I think both have aspects the other lacks Tosin took ages, Williams is injured. I also don’t think the market is as straightforward as others. Not all decent young players from the pl will come on a pay cut because they want to play for us (Gallagher) Armstrong / Rothwell / Downing, I would’ve found it hard to choose from them too. I though the subs yesterday could’ve been used better. Absolutely - TM ain’t infallible. I’m hindsight it’s obvious others may have stepped up but - bringing on Rothwell (our best on bench) Graham (last years player of season) and Buckley (arguably our best youngster) would’ve been many of our choices during the game. Absolutely - he’s got to get more from what he did yesterday, and I’m not denying that. I just think the people must be oblivious to football if they believe sacking TM right now is a good idea. This is his big season, he’s essentially set himself up for it by achieving the minimum targets in the previous two and talking up playoffs. I’d be joining you in the queue to help drive him home should we look like going backwards in the coming months.

I’m not at all. “What does he bring to the team” besides 3 fairly back handed compliments? I think that’s a bit unfair - it’s not even relevant to his actual performance

Two things - Just to clarify, that’s me venting the same as many above. I stand by the point though - simplified; If you think the best course of action is to immediately sack Mowbray - you know nothing about football. As @Ossydave says, another 5 games of the same will quickly ramp up heat, but I’m standing by that “harsh” comment. Secondly - “let’s not pretend he’s a good manager” - and you call me harsh. How many of our recent managers (some of them you’d be stretching the truth using that term) have achieved anything? Its knee jerk lack of gravitas. I’m with @Paul - new low from my perspective.

After 1 game in a season?

The way this is washed over as a simple achievement after Coyle and with our owners is hard to read.

Each to their own, my opinion in a nutshell; If you think it’s time to sack TM, you know nothing about football, you’ve learnt nothing from the last ten years, and you generally don’t know the difference between aspiration and expectation. Things can change quickly - but we’ve played 1 game in a competitive league, with 45 to go. Picking a few of last season results, or the inability to get exactly what we want in transfer windows as the main reasons, with this defeat as the “straw that broke the camels back”... I have to say - that’s a complete knee jerk lack of awareness. No surprise, not a single person in the club before or after, not a single person on the concourse or on the ground, or a single one of the people I talked to after in a few pubs after even mentioned the words “Mowbray out”.. Reason for that? A normal conversation involves being immediately responsible for your words, and many things said in reaction to yesterday’s result in this thread, would’ve been laughed at as a pointless “vent”! Some might not like it, but I don’t particularly like reading this kind of (in my view) OTT reaction to a sport that’s never been as simple as it’s perceived.

There’s worse things you can say, but I guess it shows the pride of the player to react to a character jibe - cares a lot about his perception obviously. I think he deserves better treatment.

It’s subjective but on technical ability I disagree - Bennett is a converted wide player. Nyambe is a defender. There are pro’s and con’s to both. I think it’s simple - they’re both one side of the two sided footballer we need. Same will Bell and Del for left back. On the subject of Amari - I think he’s technically decent and at times goes past players, but I’ve never seen a player lack urgency like him in 27 years of watching football.

Another one; And for all the “I pay good money I get an opinion” responses, it’s not hard to see why (someone as hard working as EB) might react badly. Performance is one thing, questioning his character? We ever had a rovers player work hard as Bennett? Or engage with the fans, or seemingly love the club? If this Nyambe argument was as black and white as many perceive - I’m sure TM, Johnson et al would’ve started him. I’ve seen nobody mention that Nyambe might be a better defender, but he ain’t going to improve us going forward as an advanced full back - he’s simply not good enough technically. Especially considering this is a team now trying to keep the ball!

That posts is exactly why I’m sick to death of so called “fans” or “experts” with their throw away faceless criticisms. Well hard.

Norwich had a bad start too- remember Southend away two seasons ago? End of day - today means nothing long term but we’ve got to react!

Have to admit I don’t get why Travis was subbed for Buckley. I think he looks a talent but surely the straight forward change at that point is an extra forward? To be fair- no mention of Bell backing off and then ducking for Williams cross on the first goal either

Basic review; Played ok in patches but defensive individual errors cost us points. Sound familiar? Subs killed us too: I’m not blaming anyone for it but putting Rothwell and Gallagher out wide basically turned the game back in Charlton’s favour. Set pieces again a weakness. Another season of mid table after the investment we’ve had will/can only be seen as poor. Hopefully this is a stutter....

Good point. I think we are better equipped for them too now - taller and more basic GK, 6.5 centre half and Sam Gallagher scores quite a few headers for us last time too.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17812362.rovers-couldnt-done-more-push-season-ticket-sales/?fbclid=IwAR0oLGHNSaSxK9o6_e06bR1WKiAmk7DlJQgP8go-cjrJG49yFU0NYLR2bPM ““We try and say that if you’re an 1875 member there’s no hike up price, I believe the fans call it ‘the Waggott tax’.” Waggs reads BRFCS then I guess

Think TMs the only manager I can ever recall being criticised for expecting players to work their way into the team, and not simply turn up!

Two full seasons, minimum expectation achieved both times: Only manager to do that in last 10 years was Big Sam, and that was a fleeting moment. If we fail to move further on this season or go backwards, I’ll start to understand the constant moaning, criticism, choosing of one quote in thousand to make a point and the sheer will full ignorance that only focuses on things perceived “wrong” A bit like being hugely critical of selling Nuttall (our 4th choice CF at best) for the same price we bought Dack.

It’s definitely another one of those things you shouldn’t cherry pick out of an interview to get angry about imo..

In his own bio, or bioyo...

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