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Strangely only in certain threads; have I broken it with my nonsense?

Oh, see now that’s something I haven’t actually said. Do I think having to wait till May to go to India and agree budgets is a good strategy? No. Do I think that the owners/pascha are completely ignoring “advice” or we have a perfect structure? No. If I’m looking at the previous two seasons, I do think it’s a overly critical to suggest there is “chaos” in our recruitment or a constant shift of plan? Yes. I just don’t think we can offer as much money, or are as attractive of a proposition to players as some might hope. That’s more down to current context of our club, position, debt etc- not down to Tony “too nice” Mowbray!

I don’t agree at all. I think the momentum of our u23s and the difficult of paying top championship wages means recruiting and developing for the squad isn’t as simple as “oh, young lads didn’t work last year, let’s get some older heads” From my perspective- common sense says plan is far more complex than that.

Thinner skin than Trump. You know, suggesting an opinion is arrogant is slightly different to calling someone a name? As I’ll say for the final time. Some notion that the club has “changed” tact purely based on one previous transfer “going wrong” sounds stupid to me, that’s my opinion. Do we agree on certain things, cons of bringing just youth in? Yes, certainly. But I don’t think signing Johnson and Downing is some acceptance that previous measures hadn’t worked.

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again - There is a certain “arrogance” that comes across when posters/fans make assumptions like this - as if you or I are privy to their actual plan! Especially when it’s put into a context of “im glad they’re doing what I said they should’ve done..!” Theres nothing wrong with criticising the actions and decisions made, but please understand, if you’re going to make assumptions based on your perceptions of “the plan”, accept that others (like me) may think you’ve not the knowledge or connections to make that judgement! Especially when there are holes in the idea that we’ve shifted from young to old in 12 months, when you remember Jack Rodwell last summer and our first recruit this year (Hilton).

Yea, because to sign first team ready, top level championship players, we’d have to jump in front of several clubs with turnover probably 5 times our own. I would’ve thought that was fairly obvious personally! Rather than look for reasons to criticise the process we’ve took, isn’t it just as easy to see why certain decisions are made “despite” what our “Plan A” might’ve been?

I’m carrying this on because I disagree with your original statement and assertion. Plus - How is throwing nearly 10m at your squad a “slow build”?

Mate, you must remember that we went for plenty of more established lads last summer and lost out, you should remember why also. Plus, had no idea Rodwell was one for the future.. You've also the fact we had just left the third tier. I know we are biased and see no negative reasons for signing at Rovers, but you can understand at that time or in that climate Bamford and McGinn would’ve always picked Leeds and Villa! I think the fact Johnson was free this summer (like Rodwell) made it a wage we could pay - doesn’t this seem like more of our limitations coming in to play? As opposed to some bungled change of philosophy?

Is it? Firstly I’d be waiting till August before ever getting near that judgement, secondly I’d be trying my best to hope nobody mentions the promising u23 keeper we’ve already signed. If there’s one thing I agree with Nixon on, the market is mental. It’s not a simple process - for example many signings react to a big one ie when/if Maguire leaves Leicester, will they sign Tarkowski or Duffy, then who would the replacement at their club be etc! We are in a position that seems obvious to me - a decent amount to spend a season but not in the same wage ball park as many - who could blame the owners for keeping that side down after the way they had been stung previously! I just think the notion that they’ve completely changed tact because BB underwhelmed is another pointless criticism or negative suggestion without basis!

Ah come on, at least acknowledge that they have said repeatedly that they wanted some older heads in the dressing room and on the pitch to help “game management” and guide our squad that’s completely packed with youngsters in every position. If there is anything that stands out again (which may be impossible for some to accept) we are simply not at the front of any queue, miles behind in scouting and way off able to pay the wages of those joining the top teams in the division. Its hardly a surprise considering the last 10 years is it.

Doesn’t even try to hide his own personal bias, in one breath called Sam Gallagher a proposition to flip for 3x his fee in twelve months, in the next says buying to develop is a mugs game...!

Honestly I’ve been calling Carson “Frank” for a decade because he’s a joker. Please no.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07f6l4d#play

Cometh the hour, Cometh the man.

You can spend the extra tenner on’t first round in’t WMC post game then lad. TBF though I’m with you on this, it seems either petty or the beginning of another increase/increment process at Ewood. Further proof our low turnover isn’t “ignorable”

Brentford have had their approach described as a “moneyball” style of running a club - from statistical models and (in some way similar to us) an eye for players to develop. Raya ticks lots of boxes when you think about data - age, experience, cost (due to wage), academy graduated from, home grown status (3 years in uk academy before 21), potential to develop etc. I don’t think it’s a particularly expensive risk for them either, a backup gk or their current one, Luke Daniels could deputise if he needs to be dropped, and if you’ve hired a specific Spanish goalkeeper coach based on a similar model (as in a reputable/experienced/potential coach) you’ve got time to work with him and build on Raya’s obvious talent. I am currently not very pleased about this but I think the final feeling I’ll have will be down to his replacement. Nobody can argue that we’d concede less with a less “erratic” and more dominant and vocal keeper!

Agree with you on Raya but “considerably weaker” sans Rodwell and Downing? I’m not bored or worried by that scenario right now, I might be in 24 days.

Will the next one pick up a Dack or Rothwell for pittance though? You know this already, but the fact that good championship/ average premier league players can cost 20m says our outlay in the current climate is “poultry”...

Scott Dann? Wouldn’t be averse to that really. Tbf the only player to literally bust his bollox for rovers.

Finally we nearly agree. If Raya Wanted out, we shouldve told him to F off. Sit on the bench. The problem with that from a business point of view - in 12 months he might be worth nothing!

Yea, and fans who compare any signing over 30 to Murphy and Etuhu need a memory test!

Me and you are too similar mate. I actually agree and think Charlie’s the type of “head up” footballer that would make an midfield anchor! Twice the intent of Rodwell, if not the athlete

I’m still pissed off about selling Raya, if anybody wondered..!

Karl Darlow anyone?