Yet he’s contributed more than anyone else this season.

I get what you’re saying about price - it wouldn’t be too difficult to have a cheap ST in one area, like BB upper or something or sides of the riverside, whilst keeping central areas, lower blackburn end as “premium”. The problem then becomes if there’s 1000 in one 2500 seat block, and then 800 in another - it’s far more expensive to staff. Hence closing big areas of the ground off.

Berg probably cost us 5m alone in payout/damages!

Does it not play into this debate though? For me it does. Yes - wages/transfer funds arent dictated by our turnover, but FFP does limit losses, thus the more turnover, the more we can spend.

I’d be guessing but I reckon we’ve probably spent nearly 20m hiring and firing managers under venkys.

But ffp limits losses - so we can lose/spend more if the turnover is up.

No I think it does come into account personally. The bigger the turnover, the more spent on the pitch.

FFP has nothing to do with turnover and transfers?

What about FFP? Arent rovers, Boro and a few more other clubs trying to make all the others more transparent since there’s supposed to be a 39m limit to losses over 3 seasons and villa lost 50m in 1?

@Stuart - I’m not completely au fait with Wigan’s depth or financial clout going forward tbh but given they’ve signed Garner, Clarke, Fox and pilkington all 30+ It’s easy to see why our squad looks a better potential platform for improvement. They signed Windass for 3 times what we gave Gilligham for Dack and Rothwell combined - we’ve made considerable steps imo in 12 months.

Simply looking at the previous twelve months; we are in a higher league, and better squad position than them. As @roversfan99 says, we’ve a arguably a better platform going into next season too. If you’re only talking about league position, there’s some truth in;“Based on respective budgets, pound for pound they have had a better return on their investment for 2018/19.” The part I disagree with still - is how that translates into a “better season” when some of the initial things are considered too. Sure - they’re -5m or something on our spends, but I’m sure most would agree our team is worth the difference and more compared to theirs. Thus, overall on the comparison- my opinion is we’ve moved further forward overall in the last twelve months, if not as far as we could’ve. This is also taking Cook doing a decent job into account, with a lower budget too.

“Pound for pound” a better season ”pretty emotive to suggest we’ve had a better season than Wigan”... Im not dismissing the fact we’ve spent more, I’m suggesting that these two particular opinions are barmy as they completely ignore the actual games, results, performances, positions through season and final placing.

It’s very illogical to suggest the team with less points and poorer results had a better season. Theres some point in that they’ve achieved to stay up spending less, but to completley ignore the entire context of results/games is utterly barmy IMHO.

Lets focus on the belief that Wigan have had a “pound for pound” better season. I’ll state again; weird, crazy and scraping the barrel of criticism.

Honestly, that’s a new depth of weirdness. Still sore at only getting 96 points in league 1, and happy to talk up Wigan because they haven’t spent as much money....!

Give it a rest mate.

Aww precious. Thanks for the interesting contribution. Norwich need to win for obvious reasons, they’ve had a great season and this will be a truly different test to Bolton. 5 wins on the spin would be a great way to go into the final one on a relative high. Hope to see more time for Butterworth, Buckley, perhaps stick with Rodwell and Travis if available. According to LET- Lenihan is ill- id say that would be a big blow to our chances. 2-2

There’s plenty on this site, but you’ve always preferred the argument, not that it matters. Irony almost palpable.

You don’t get opinions do you!

Hissy fit!!! Bringing up quotes that show examples of OTT critique from October ain’t no hissy fit lad. I have to say you’ve reached a new Jason today Mr Blueboy, bravo. Eh? What is your problem? I’ll make it even clearer; I disagree with the idea with him being a “waste of money”. If you want to carry on boring me and everyone to death, if you need clarity use the PM function!

The thanks was for bringing it back from the depths of “pedantry-knots” In terms of the bits we slightly differ on (without going back round in circles) 1. Whilst there’s no argument it could be spent differently - it’s premature now, and was certainly in October, to completely write that off- imo Ofcourse. 2. Difficult to drop Graham - as you mentioned he was a snip, but a good example of someone coming backwards from the top level earning wages that made a fee negligible. 3. I agree on physicals- however raw technique wise yet to see Nuttall spring a championship defence and slot in the bottom corner with his weak foot. I do however rate Joe N. I think he could sharpen up under DG and remould into a big strapping target man / poacher. Not one for running behind, but definitley one to bring on to pump balls at once DG has moved on.

I thought it was “the end”?

I don’t think “no I’m not, you are” does much for anyone’s legitimacy, or IQ for that matter BB.

Thus coming to the judgement he was a “waste of money” by today - or per the quotes in October 2018 is something I simply disagree with. Theres nowt “nuanced” about that.