It’s not difficult to understand why some would be offended by that. Start off with anyone disabled, then move on to anyone related/knowing someone affected by disability. Its a damn sight worse than accepting a lucrative under the table cash offer to speak to a client or dinner for some dodgy agent, whilst drinking a pint of wine!

@Batman. doesn’t anyone in a position of such responsibility working in public spotlight require a certain public etiquette that doesn’t offend people?

I guess it’s probably better to avoid judging other posters “self awareness” when your overall tone of viewpoint echoes someone the messageboard largely agrees opinion “is done tongue in cheek? I thought we’d all worked him out years ago...”

Why so precious these days. I don’t think you spitting your dummy out because I liked a post you didn’t is “getting called out”. You know as well as I do - certain people, certain topics = people see what they want. You don’t like Mowbray or his methods, so anytime you can talk about us being “poorly coached” you will do. Any time someone thinks this is overly critical or a another example of overly negative reaction - you’re in quicker than a divorcee on the rebound.

Surely that cap fits you much more snugly Blueboy, based on what I recall you calling the M.O.T.M of the leeds game a week previous? You know, complaining about people complaining isn’t exactly what I’d call riveting either.

So “Tony’s lost the plot” is balanced debate!! Pull the other one DE. You do make a point though - how about a thread titled “discussion” intended for people to explain their thoughts and then a seperate one called “reactionary cathartic bullshit”?

Are on on the FF?

That’s not exactly true Batman - I mean I fully agree with the idea he was “paraphrased” in a way that made it more offensive. The part I disagree with is the insult element - any national hero/legend/icon in a position of responsibility and respect should have the gravitas to know how those words would’ve been used against him. His arrogance, ignorance or both meant that he chose to discuss those beliefs in public. That was and still is my problem with his comments back then - it doesn’t take a genius to know those views are best saved for private conversation. He also talked about them on several occasions too - not just simply for the Times/whatever paper it was, on radio and other media. Get well soon Glen, but I’ll never personally forgive the bloke for making such heinous suggestions. Believe what you want, but when you’re in a position of power/respect and responsibility, think a bit before speaking.

Two particular responses to that great post (just the last bit anyway) 1. Plenty on here had big reservations and still talk in the summer included moving on from TM to move up to the next level. 2. it doesn’t matter if you’re a coach etc, posts should focus on why you’d have a different lineup/tactic and what you’d do - as opposed to simply saying he’s lost the plot. What’s the point in that? I mean nobody has even picked up on the fact you can seemingly quote a 3/400 word post these days and reply with simply “that’s rubbish” and it’s acceptable! Anyway that’s enough Sunday wasted. Got an hour back and I’ve wasted it here AGAIN... maybe next time we can talk about Football

Farcical suggests a ridiculous or nonsensical decisions. From your point of view, the lineup might not make sense but is that because the managers “lost the plot” or is because you might not know the whole story - Ie DG injured/fatigued or Downing being ill? Look, end of the day people can post what they want as long as they’re prepared to accept questioning or criticism of said content. I stand by the suggestion that (at the current time) the criticisms of certain players, the manager, signings, tactics etc on are generally overblown - especially in matchthreads. Obviously that doesn’t mean that I’m suggesting the solution is the overtly patronising way of coming on and calling this place “most negative place ever” in some childish “americanistic” tone.

You're correct - and there should be differing viewpoints. My view is these comments are stupid; “To start with no recognised striker and have three on the bench of whom two cost £9million is farcical” “Unbelievable lineup. Methinks TM has lost the plot!  There’s tonnes of references to “tombola” and other simple criticisms. Why can’t I or others point out or react to how stupid they are? If you think TM isn’t studious and thoughtful- ie a team selection is random, (tombola) you’re effectively calling TM clueless if not literally using those words.

You boys fancy having a day off being so precious? The thread after the teamsheet, during the first half particularly is hilarious. It’s the same every week. It’s also ironic (surely you see this too) to spend your time complaining, about people complaining about people complaining.. See what I’ve done is complain about you complaining about people complaining about complaints. Now I’m hungover.

Jay Rod I hope that was an accident you dingle moron. Get well soon Raya, looked a broken nose blood everywhere. As for the rest - I can’t quite believe we’ve held on. I believe we would’ve won if we’d kept 11 men, the game changed second half. Still though after that - what a point.

Yea Rodwell and Mulgrew went off injured. 7 minutes injury time with a defensive midfielder in the net and ten men.

No subs left, two centre backs and keeper enforced changes too.

The inexplicable beast All could and should. 3 championship ready players to go in a change the side for 6m? You are seemingly stuck in the early 2000s Mercer, or oblivious to the amounts paid for average second tier players in 2018. Either way, makes no different to the point I’m making. Any judgements made now are barmy, and the “bloated” cost is a fallacy in the current climate.

To make any lasting say or judgement of his abilities or the signing overall, of a 19 year old attacker before even a league start? On the sole basis that we haven’t spent that much since we Rhodes? Might be inevitable, but doesn’t mean I can’t point out how I disagree with that mentality. I know you haven’t said that by the way. I’m sure you’d agree also that 6m - is actually a bargain in the modern climate. If he has a good run of goals - English too, u21... There’s not many top drawer around.

6/7m likely in installments. If we renegotiate Dack to 30k Pw for 5 years to avert premier league interest (hypothetical) that would cost us about the same. BB is obviously not going to be on the top whack. I think many of the signings of championship forwards over the recent years (including our own JR) for similar amounts to Brereton have included monster wages on top. Isn’t Assombolonga on 50k? Has even scored in the premier league? The price is also not that big in terms of the recent explosion - infact Armstrong’s bargain price puts more pressure on B.B. for me. The price is only a problem imo, if there is an immediate need and expectation for him to step up and change football games. At this moment, Dack, Graham and Armstrong are all in front of him, so no rush for me. If the owners continue this idea of investing that way, in my view it’s only a matter of time before we move up. Signing players for “now” amidst a climate of crazy wages and agents, it’s not cheap.

I’m in agreement but eventually, not before he has even started a league game in his preferred position.

I disagree with both key reasons to criticise the deal so far; Impact and cost. The most bizarre part for me seems, on impact or what he has been expected to deliver thus far - I’m not sure how many other 19 year old strikers we’ve brought in, who’ve turned the old second division on its head in 4/5 cameo appearances. Equally, we might have wanted him to have more impact but “obviously a bad signing”... that’s just insanity (obviously you didn’t say this TR) Im also perplexed by the assumption we’ve put all our “irons in one fire” in terms of cost, since the Raos are unpredictable and TM stated it depends where we are come January but we will act. Also if it’s 7m - a long contract, decent wages, good experience/potential at this level; someone from the division above or a team on the cusp would probably cost 7m over 3 years of a contract in wages alone, I very much doubt B.B. started on 30/40k a week. So - negative/positive sweeping bs aside, It’ll take a lot more facts on the definite initial cost and his wages + a lot longer a prolonged period of innefectual displays before I’m singing from the same hymn sheet @Trinidad Rover

An exciting turn of events isn’t it? To be investing in potential as opposed to searching for premier league loans and/or players that need another chance after being dropped at their old club. Least it is for me. Only thing strange is the reactions of a view here.

The people I’ve spoken too about him said the same - however one person did make the point to me that he still doesn’t look fully fit or strong yet and I agreed on that. I listened to TM’s interview and he said exactly the same. TM doesn’t strike me as someone who would attempt to justify a big signing by playing him when he’s not ready, so I’m quite convinced that game time is going to be the main source of improvement for B.B. Plus imo he’s hardly done “very poorly” that kind of comment is reserved for a Dixon Etuhu’ esq performance coming in for 20 minutes, getting booked, giving a penalty away and then being re subbed. B.b has been ineffective at worst. In terms of other comments, I’ll just unequivocally say that already making these assertions is utterly embarrassing from my point of view; “The new Kevin Davies”, “hope we wiggle out of signing him”, “very poor performance/cameo”, “playing him to lower eventual fee”, “should of spent elsewhere” etc The absolute pearler; “it’s obvious B.B. is a bad buy”.... Ive been critical of Jal down the years for stupid posts but that comment based on what we’ve seen so far from B.B. easily one of the most baffling ever.

Rovers take on the recently relegated Swansea who are managed by Graham Potter. Swansea’s form is average, losing to Dean Smiths Aston Villa the previous Saturday. Winning 4, losing 4 and drawing 5 of their games this season. Swansea have some decent players - notable mentions; Ollie Mcburnie- a Scottish 6 foot 2 centre forward with 4 goals this season. Leroy Fer - a Netherlands central midfielder who has played much of their previous 3 seasons in the prem. Finally - the wingback Martin Olsson, the Swedish international who developed at Ewood! Rovers go into this game on the back of two wins - looking to push further into the playoffs. From my point of view I think a point would be perfect but it’s hard to reign in my excitement with Rovers so I’ll plump for a 2-0 victory with an early goal in each half Pictures/video from last time we met - who can forget how well Josh King did in that game.

I have to say I anticipated a different team sheet but the result shows I know feck all. Subs worked too for me - particularly Rodwell/Conway, the experience counted today for me.

Echo this, I certainly think he’s more suited to a central berth but what a work rate that lad has. Insane innit! Hah. I genuinely can’t believe how quickly we’ve transitioned and if we keep our key players come January and add a couple more who knows how much we can improve. Perhaps Rodwell was a signing that could probably cover any central midfield or defence crisis. Be nice if we can add more depth up top and on the flanks come January.