I could hear him shout ‘keepers’ from my seat in the JW so there’s definitely no way that Trav couldn’t hear him - that particular incident was down to Travis alone. (That’s not excusing all the other stuff though - the way he continually parries even routine shots in front of him gives me palpitations in the stands, god knows what it does for our defenders!!)

49% last night (although WBA had 52% apparently so the sums don’t quite add up), but only 30% on Saturday - and the effect of the two games was showing at the end last night imo

Surely everyone on here would happily take the results over the last two games over the rest of the season - a few 0-0 draws with a smattering of 1-0 wins and going unbeaten at home to the end of the season - we'd be delighted. However, based on the performances and level of entertainment provided, when it comes time to renew the season tickets for next season I certainly wouldn't be rushing to buy one. Yes results are the most important thing - but it doesn't hurt to give the fans something to get excited about every now and again too!!

The best manager I ever played for used to drum into us the importance of looking after the ball because "playing without the ball is much more demanding, both physically and mentally." We seem happy to just let the other team have the ball, sit deep and look to break on the transition - nothing wrong with that per se, but it will be taking a lot out of our players and I think that showed last night in the last 10 minutes when our players looked out on their feet and WBA had us under the cosh a bit. If last night's game had gone on for another 10 minutes I'm fairly certain that we would have ended up conceding - and when the games start to come thick and fast with midweek games every week I think it might end up costing us, unless the manager is willing to rotate the squad a bit more

I’ve just had a look on the online store and, even though I’m logged into my account and I am a ST holder, I can’t see an option to apply a discount - do you know where I can find it, or is there a code to enter or something? (I was thinking of treating myself to one of the retro training tops)

The minutes mention a discount in the club shop for ST holders. As a ST holder this has passed me by somehow - does anyone know what discount we get and how to access it?

I wonder if they would be willing then to take a 15% pay cut - surely less games should equal less wages, no. Plus, if the clubs were spending less on player wages then maybe they wouldn’t feel the need to go chasing those lucrative overseas friendlies quite as often I suspect deep down we all know the answer to that question though

Not quite the question, but Kevin Gallagher’s grandad was a forward for Celtic, Patsy Gallagher. I think his uncle was also a player up in Scotland too

I presume you’re talking about the Coventry game - in which case, surely Buckley would have given you more creativity than Hyam, Carter or McFadzean?? Or keep JRC on and put Ayari alongside him & Tronstadt 🤷‍♂️ Or surely having another striker on in Telalovic couldn’t have hurt for the last 5 or 10 minutes when you desperately need a goal (incidentally I still believe that had he had the same number of minutes as Gallagher this season he would have scored more goals)

I don’t disagree with you on JDT - by the time he left I was of the opinion that it was for the best for both parties (although I couldn’t have imagined thinking that back in November) However, I do disagree with you on Eustace. Yes, there was perhaps a need to be slightly more pragmatic, but it’s more than that - you can see it in our performances under him that it is ingrained in every fibre of his being - he is a do not lose first coach rather than a win at all costs one. That’s why we just knocked it about at the back when Millwall had 10 men behind the ball and settled for a point, it’s why we kept 3 central defenders on against 10 men Coventry, even after they had taken off their 2 strikers, it’s why our best performances have come against teams where we’re not expected to do well and we can set up to defend first and foremost… I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that necessarily (although it doesn’t fit my own footballing philosophy) but it’s better to be clear about what we’re expecting from him and the team next season. All this talk of ‘give him pre-season’ and ideas about him developing our attacking play are, I fear, building up hopes for something that just won’t happen - he’s not going to change his philosophy over night and so next season will be more of the same - defending deep, keeping it tight and maybe occasionally nicking something on a breakaway. That might well keep us in the league, but it certainly won’t take us up, and it definitely won’t be very entertaining to watch 🤷‍♂️

And that illustrates the difference between Eustace’s mindset and the fans’ (and JDT’s) - the primary aim is to not lose, if you happen to win that’s just a bonus. So, whereas for most of us his record is 3 wins in 18 (4 if you’re Chaddy) - which is poor whichever way you slice it - he views it as 5 defeats in 18 - which is reasonably respectable. Basically, we just need to prepare ourselves for a lot more draws and pretty turgid football next year - maybe that way we’ll be less frustrated as we know what to expect

Yes the players aren't great, and the mistake from Pears is almost laughable - there's keepers in Sunday pub leagues who would be embarrassed by that - but I disagree that a different manager wouldn't make a difference. Wednesday's players aren't particularly good either, but the difference between them and us on Sunday was they were well drilled - they had a set way of playing and they each knew their jobs and did them to the best of their ability. In comparison, our lads look like they've been sent out on to the pitch with no instructions whatsoever - players are coming short and looking for the ball to feet and seeing the ball kicked over their heads and then, when they do make runs in behind, the defenders are looking to play into the midfield - we look disjointed, the players aren't in the right positions to help their teammates, because no one seems to know what they are supposed to be doing or where they are supposed to be. It's abject and dire, and it's on the manager who either hasn't given them a game-plan, or hasn't been able to get it over to them

1 win in 13, happy with a point in winnable home games and now capitulating in such a pathetic way in what is a massive game for our season - does anyone still believe that this clown is good enough to be managing our club?

I don’t know if it’s been mentioned already, but did anyone else spot that Martin came out to greet the away fans before the game - followed by someone videoing it for their social media - and he chose the exact moment that MGP was introduced to the crowd to step onto the pitch, no doubt to make it sound like he was getting the rapturous reception that he believes he deserves I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone quite so narcissistic as Russell Martin

Middlesborough managed to miss an open goal from about 4 yards out in the first half and also hit the bar in the last minute - yes we kept a clean sheet, but were tiny margins away from a 2-0 defeat. Not sure I’d class that as nullifying them tbh