I was listening to the Stones the other day, and remembered reading someone who wrote that sports teams should really come out to the opening of "Gimme Shelter."

Must say, Ozzie, that whole set of posts remided me of Life of Brian and the rant about the Romans. "What have the Romans ever done for us?"

People forget that while we were safe with a few games to play, those games ended up being miserable failures (in fact, weren't 2 of them similar to yesterday?). I'm one of those that forgot, but that, combined with the first match here, makes me think that we'll be around 13-15 when all is said and done, but I also think we will be avoiding a relegation dogfight. Then again, the year we finished 6th, I thought we were crap and not going to finish near the top 10 after the awful performance against Villa.

I'm not suprised at the number of half-filled grounds yesterday, especially City, as the Cricket was going on.

Not to pick on you, Col, but I was watching something yesterday where they were talking about that. No one ever mentions who sold the slaves to the white man. Yes, Blacks sold their own, but it's always the fault of the buyer, never the fault of the seller.

Here's my prediction. Someone will merge this with the thread that has been going for a month or so.

One of Apple's big shortcomings was that they are the only ones who make their main hardware. The only reason they "lost" the war was because they had a huge profit margins and wouldn't allow clones. Of course, when they did try to let clones be made, it failed miserably.

Interesting that they are showing the match here - on Monday!

He also avoids any reasoned logic to why his arguements are disagreed with.

GooseVSwan(American) 1: Kirkland 2: King 3: Upson 4: Primus 5: Fabregas 6: Gilberto 7: Gerrard 8: Ronaldo 9: Henry 10: Bellamy 11: Gudjohnsen © 12: Carroll 13: Piper 14: Repka 15: Thome Eidur won't always be my captain, but they open with Wigan, so...

I don't pay attention to people with under 100 posts!! (kidding, by the way, I just wasn't reading)

You and Mr. 6 are the only ones with that opinion about Gillespie

OSX has cut down my crashes to the point they are almost non-existant. I can only think of one that has happened while I have been using the computer in all of the years I've been running any version of X. 9.x was definitely a different story. Have to say, though, as a lifelong Mac addict, I have moved from the graphics side of my company to the application support side and am finding XP a pretty good system to work with. Might even have to break down and get a wintel box for home.

If it was good enough for Mrs. American and my introduction at our wedding, it is good enough for Rovers! That version sounds like Paul Williams' music in the classic film Phantom of the Paradise!

I'm with whomever suggested Darth Vader's music from Star Wars the last time we did this thread. Especially with the "evil" players we have.

I never thought I'd see Phil defending undocumented immigrants!!

Have to save these.

Gotta love the new manager. PICed it again and won 10-0 this time. Finally got a decent YP with a 17yo solid defender. Unfortunately, not a single secondary skill even inadequate. Put him on sale for $350,000 us, figuring if I get that much, great, if not, he did immediately move into my starting defense.

Um, actually, the Israelis have had plenty of chances to do that. Remember, the land was taken from the Palestinians. How would you feel if someone came into Blackburn and said the land belonged to Burnley and increased that town. But one point that goes back on subject is the majority of Muslims also want to live peacefully and get on with their lives. It's the militant minority who, rightfully or not, give Phil and Gord (and others) the views that they have.

I would think the opposite BB. If a top class player came in and led them to a trophy, he'd become a God. No better way to cement your legacy.

When do the Ashes start?

The words pot and kettle come to mind. I don't think I've had such a good laugh in a while!! So you don't suffer yourself?

Actually, Mr. Accountant, 10,753.

I'm trying to find some sensible debate (from either side) in the last 2 days of posts I just read.

I hope Flopsy learned his lesson about censorship a while back...