Ajayi having a great game for WBA. We’re fine though with Charlie and co aren’t we, Tony.

http://bit.ly/2LXwP0X “It’s harsh to say it’s the back four, or his fault and his fault." Didn't mind doing it to Raya though did you Tony. Can't be doing it to Bennett or Mulgrew though.

Beaten only to the title by Del Williams.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/37502741 He will never learn.

He's not even learnt from his mistakes at Coventry, let alone us! Cannot fathom how he thought this bunch would be okay after shipping 69 goals last season. I posted it in the match thread, but IMO he doesn't really deserve the chance to rectify it before the window shuts. If he couldn't see our biggest problem following last season then he's not good enough to be the manager of our club.

Personally struggling to see how he deserves the chance to. If 69 goals against and the worst away defensive record in the football league didn't tell him the we needed a minimum of 3 new defenders BEFORE the season started, then nothing will.

You're gonna be in for a frustrating season as I'll bet he's played there loads more - that's where TM was largely using him when he managed him last time. Sick and tired of Mowbray tonight, really am.

Well that is absolutely fecking dreadful. He just hasn’t learned whatsoever and for me that’s just unforgivable. Defenders are coming my arse!

Same story as last season whenever we are behind late on - we never seem to come even close to scoring. Pitiful.

Or LB or RB (as he obviously doesn’t rate Nyambe).

Get Bennett, Mulgrew and Bell the fecking hell away from this side.

I can’t wait to hear the utter nonsense Mowbray will come out with about the defence this time.

‘Defenders are coming as the ones here aren't good enough’.

Come on Mowbray - go for it now! Rothwell on for Bell please and get Downing to LB.

If he genuinely thinks Mulgrew, Bennett and Bell are good enough for a team aspiring for the top 6 then he needs potting on the spot. No changes at HT either. Really does wind me up this man.

It ain't first game jitters; all 3 are terrible. If we play those 3 all season then we'll be closer to relegation than promotion.

Not one shot on target. Simply not good enough. Sort it out Tony FFS you negative numpty.

FFS. Terrible time to concede. Same negative shite at home.

Thought we'd win this 4-1?

Are we doing this whole don’t score at home in the first half thing again this season?

Nyambe or Rothwell knowing Tony. TM is one stubborn bugger; the fans will obviously start getting on his back over Rothwell soon and I can see him digging his heels in even more.

Still unfit. It’s never going to change with him is it? Fuming about Rothwell. If we played with him, Dack and Armstrong it would be too much for Charlton to cope with IMO. But no, let’s play steady Eddy, Downing.

I reckon the bench, plus the likes of Chapman and Butterworth could beat that lot.

Are we worrying about the Charlton right back or something bizarre again?

Just brought up a little bit of sick seeing that back 4. Jesus Christ we need at least one more addition back there.