To coin an Ian Holloway phrase, 'if we fell into a barrel full of boobs we'd come out sucking our thumb'. Unlucky and a lack of leadership leads to one thing. Only a real manager can get us out of this mess.

The fat controller is the one you want to outlive. I'd happily water his flowers.

Gaz has historically managed to get a win when the daggers have been out, so let's see how he fairs tomorrow. My bet is that without Rudy's 20+ goals we are well and truly up @#/? creek and bullet proof Gaz will continue in the role for as long as he wants it.

I can't see him being potted either Glen, but I'm sure you've said before that he wasn't unsackable? What makes you so positive this time that he won't be if we're in the mire in several months time?

From memory Marshall got 6, Conway 4 and Cairney 3. Certainly no regular scorers there. There's a huge onus on the midfielders to chip in this season but other than Marshall/Conway hitting similar numbers to last season you're hard pressed to look for others. Koita perhaps but it's a big ask. Gaz needs to give one of the centre mids freedom to push forward but he seems absolutely hellbent on not allowing them to do that. Crossing the halfway line or playing a forward pass is a sin.

Bang on. I was going to write on here about how Gaz will likely get a result on Saturday, as he usually does when he's under a little pressure. That being said we need to remember that we're now 20 goals shy of where we were last season. It's a huge ask. Who is making up that shortfall? Delfouneso? Browny? Not a cat in hells chance. I'd wager they won't reach 5 between them all season. Very, very worrying. If that window slams shut and Rhodes has gone then we are goosed.

I was thinking that a few of our lads will be useful next season in league one, but appears I was wrong!

Good job we didn't risk them against Reading then eh.

I sincerely hope these rumours have simply come around due to it being pantomime season. Judan bloody Ali. As some have said, it's been a couple months since Venkys dropped their most recent clanger, so we must be due. Bet Bowyer is licking his lips at the prospect. I want my name changed.

Roma have started the season on fire in Serie A with Totti still pulling the strings at the grand old age of 38. It'd be fantastic if he could claim another scudetto before retiring.

Racked my brains and the midfielder must be Geremi?

Haha and just as I say that Rhodes equalises! Can he do the lap of honour on his own?

Can't thank these boys enough can we? Absolute heroes led by example in Murphy and Orr.

Easier to start with who we should bother keeping! I can see a lot of pay offs taking place this summer, that's for sure.Speaking to a Palace fan and he tells me they've won once away under Holloway and haven't won in their last seven. Only natural that we'd help them.

1-0 down shock. Squeaky bum time.

Morris against Zaha is my worry. I can't believe that we haven't got a better fit left back at the club.

Thought someone would have bumped this by now. Very thoughtful idea.

I love the way Phillip has gone silent on this 'released youngster' comment. Truth is if they'd have been good enough then we wouldn't have released them. And before someone says it I know there have been exceptions to the rule over the years from clubs worldwide.

Who? Name him please.

Get in, such a relief. I had absolutely zero faith in a result, especially at half time so will happily eat my words. Massive 3 points.

5 minutes!!! Pleeeeeeease hold on.

Come on boys!!!! Safety and Venkys sell in the summer. We can dream.

Love being proved wrong. Lets make this count and go for the 2nd.

A point away from home seems about as likely as us getting promoted to the premier league right now. To confirm this will be 4 games against Millwall and no goals this season.

Yet some on here tell us that ALL of our players are playing to their full potential. Absolute rollocks.