Please don't make posts that contain insults, as that post and any quoting it will be hidden. It's fine to disagree, just don't be an arse about it.

Despite a strong start following the international break, Rovers sank to a dismal 3-1 defeat at the hands of former boss Tony Mowbray's Sunderland at Ewood Park. Despite getting back into the game after initially conceding, Rovers let in a goal on the stroke of half time and allowed Sunderland to score another midway into the second half. This defeat keeps Rovers erratic form going, and more concerning is that we have only kept a single clean sheet in our first seven games. Rovers drop to 12th, with GD now -3. Sunderland meanwhile continue a bright start to the season with a fourth victory in five games taking them up to 4th. Neil Warnock's final game as Huddersfield boss ended in a 2-2 home draw with struggling Stoke City. Huddersfield would have been aiming for a win here, but a draw means they've taken seven points from their last nine, and Warnock seems to be leaving the club in a decent enough position. Time will tell whether the 'mutual' decision to remove him will prove to be a masterstroke or a massive mistake. A draw ends a run of three staight defeats for Stoke, but isn't the kickstart to the season they needed. Hudds sit in 16th, with Stoke in 19th. Hull and Leeds played out a 0-0 draw at the MKM Stadium. Hull didn't have a single shot on target, but Joe Rodon's 60th minute sending off for Leeds was enough to keep the score level. Nonetheless Leeds are five games unbeaten with three draws and two wins, and move up to 9th. Hull meanwhile sneak back into 6th spot, nudging Bristol City back out of the playoff spots. Millwall handily dispatched Rotherham with a 3-0 victory at the Den. Rotherham's largely dismal start to the season continues with just one win and one draw in their first seven games, having lost the rest. They've already shipped sixteen goals and only scored seven, so the signs aren't good. Regardless of that they remain outside the relegation places for now, staying in 21st. Millwall climb to 11th, just ahead of Rovers, with both teams starting the season with similarly inconsistent form. Watford and WBA drew 2-2 at Vicarage Road, with all goals coming in the first 23 minutes. The result continues an underwhelming start to the season for both clubs. They fall to 14th and 15th respectively. Norwich's fantastic early form was halted with a 2-0 home defeat against Leicester. The away side now join norwich as joint-top scorers in the division, and the win pulls them back into 2nd spot, just ahead of Ipswich on goal difference. Despite second defeat in three matches for Norwich, they still sit within the playoffs in 5th spot.

We clearly have very different perspectives on things. For me a 3-1 home defeat, our third in seven matches, is not a sign of great things to come... but hey, I've been wrong before.

Really worrying. I'd take mid-table right now if it was offered.

He simply had too much control here and not enough expectation placed on him. Sunderland actually have standards and something resembling a decent setup in place. Granted they have their problems too, but it's a completely different environment for Mowbray compared to being here.

As a Rovers fan you might as well turn off the game when we concede first. It's fucking embarrassing how weak these players are.

With no decent attackers and a defence that is conceding goals for fun we're going nowhere. Our summer signings either aren't good enough to get on the pitch or playing in the u23's. What a joke.

So far we've conceded two or more against Walsall, Rotherham, Hull, Plymouth and now Sunderland. JDT has to find a way to make us better defensively - whether it's midfield or defence, something needs to be tweaked. Even with better strikers a solid defence is really important. We aren't going to score as many as we'd like this season because we don't have any real quality up top, so it's imperative to focus on keeping the ball out of our net. Especially as we struggle so badly with getting any kind of result if we concede first.

We've conceded two (again). They've had two on target and scored both. Doesn't really matter if we defend well generally but continue to give away goals.

Because we just aren't good enough defensively. JDT spoke in his press conference about preferring to win games 5-3 rather than 1-0, but that philosophy only works if you have goalscorers in the team.

I remember watching the first 45 minutes of Ipswich's opening match against Sunderland and saying they were overhyped and with the squad they had they were going to do well to finish mid-table. The next 45 and 6 games since, Leeds aside, have proven that to be a foolish take indeed. Whilst their squad isn't anything special individually, as a collective they are far more than the sum of their parts. McKenna has them set up in a way that perfectly suits the squad they have, and every player knows their role and what's expected of them. This will be a tough match and our defence is going to need to be very solid to avoid defeat. With JDT in charge I always feel like we have a chance of winning matches, but it'll come down to which Rovers turns up on the day, and how well we start. We still haven't shaken the inability to pull ourselves together when we go behind, so I think the first goal in this one will be crucial.

Probably the most worrying thing from Southampton's perspective is that their defence and attack have essentially collapsed at the same time. They've conceded ten goals in the last three games, and only scored one.

Had a quick look on a Plymouth forum and they all seemed absolutely baffled by the amount of changes, so it doesn't seem that there was a reason beyond tactical/rotation. Probably best not to do that again.

Plymouth's recent struggles continued as they were given a bit of a hiding from Bristol City at Ashton Gate. The home side won 4-1, thoroughly dominating the match. City have had a quietly solid start to the season, having only lost one of their first seven matches, and now find themselves in 5th, having won two and drawn two of their last four matches. They've also only conceded six goals, making their defence one of the tightest in the division thus far. Plymouth meanwhile have lost four of their last five matches. No prizes for guessing who was the one win in their last five matches. They drop to 17th, with their GD having taken a bit of a battering tonight. Cardiff built on their victory at the weekend with a 3-2 home victory against Coventry. It's their third win in four matches and lifts them to 9th in the table. Coventry meanwhile still only have a solitary win to their name so far this season, and their succession of draws is followed up by a defeat. They are now 15th. Preston's momentum continues to build as they recorded yet another win, this time a 2-1 result at home to Birmingham. It sees Preston back in top spot for now, having won six and drawn one of their opening seven games. Conceding just five goals makes their defence joint-best in the division alongside Leicester and Watford. Birmingham meanwhile continue to drop points after a good start to the season. It's their second defeat on the spin, and means they've only picked up one point from the last nine available. They slip outside of the playoff spots into 7th. QPR and Swansea recorded a 1-1 draw which does little for either club. Swansea were a goal ahead until the 92nd minute when QPR snatched an equaliser, and Swansea's misery was further compounded with a 98th minute sending off after Ollie Cooper managed to get himself booked twice in the space of a minute - not for remonstrating with officials, either, just two reckless fouls in succession. He'd only come on in the 73rd minute. This result means Swansea continue to wait for their first league victory, and are condemned to their worst start to a season in 32 years. They remain in 22nd position in the table. It was QPR's first draw of the season, and considering how the match went they'll likely be grateful for the point, having likely been initially targeting this as a three pointer. Russell Martin continues to work his magic at Southampton, as they fell to a third successive defeat, this time at home to Ipswich. Whilst they didn't concede a hatful of goals this time, it was a defensive error that gave Ipswich their goal. By all accounts Ipswich were the better side as well, suggesting that Southampton's confidence is faltering, whilst Ipswich will no doubt have had their morale boosted further by yet another victory. They've made an outstanding start to the season, with six wins from seven, having won their last three, bouncing back admirably after their 4-2 defeat to Leeds. Some job McKenna has done there. Ipswich are joint-second for goals scored, with fierce rivals Norwich remaining the division's top scorers. They climb back to second, putting pressure on Leicester to keep up. Southampton meanwhile drop to 11th, and questions will surely be asked now about Russell Martin's future at the club. Finally, Sheffield Wednesday and Middlesbrough played out a 1-1 draw at Hillsborough. Rovers' old boy Darragh Lenihan was on the scoresheet for Boro, claiming the equaliser which ended up being the last goal of the match. The match was otherwise notable for Sheffield Wednesday's supporters engaging in a tennis ball protest against their owners, causing a brief early stoppage. The result doesn't do much to help either team, with Wednesday remaining in 23rd and Boro still rooted to the bottom of the table. Both sides are yet to pick up a victory thus far in the campaign, and have an equal record of five goals scored. Boro fare slightly worse on goals conceded with 14 to Wednesday's 11. The draw does stop a run of defeats for Boro, but that won't lift many spirits as they find themselves still waiting for a sign of hope that they can revive themselves as they did last season.

I wouldn't be too worried about Sunderland's goalscoring prowess. 5 of their 12 goals came against a Southampton team who basically don't have a defence, and 3 of those came against 10-man QPR. They won't find it anywhere near as easy at Ewood as they did in those two matches. At home we very rarely concede that amount of goals.

Considering the level he's been playing at and the fact he must have been a very cheap signing, I don't really have any expectations for him. If he scores a few then great, if not then it was a cheap punt that hasn't paid off. My main focus in terms of who I'm expecting goals from are the likes of Gallagher, Dolan and Hedges who have plenty of experience at this level and need to stop missing easy chances. If they're getting plenty of assists then that's fine too, as it means at least someone else will be scoring the goals. If we started policing this place like RAWK we'd barely have any posters left, so probably not in our best interests.

Sometimes it's okay to be annoyed with what somebody posts. If a day or two after the match, for example, somebody is still commenting that Telelovic's debut shows that he'll never be up to it then it's fair game for criticism. If it's just something posted during the match... eh, personally I'd just leave it be and assume it's an emotional reaction and not necessarily indicative of that person's genuine view. Obviously people can do as they please, that's just my take on it.

Have done it plenty of times myself tbf. Sometimes you post something during a match, especially if we're losing or things seem to be going against us, and later you realise it was an unfair comment. If it was muttered in a pub or when you were sitting at Ewood nobody would care or even remember after the match, but obviously on here people can go back through the match thread afterwards and pick out posts to criticise. Such is the internet.

Rovers 2-1 defeat of Boro at Ewood ensured Boro's miserable start to the season continued after the international break. Both teams had chances, but whilst Rovers' defence was solid, Boro often looked all at sea at the back. It's no exagerration to say Rovers could have scored four or five in this match, and if not for a shocking decision from the linesman we would have kept a clean sheet. The result pushes Rovers up to 8th, a point outside the playoff spots. Meanwhile Boro are left rooted to the foot on the table, still without a win, having lost five of their opening six matches, conceding 13 goals and only scoring 4. Some big problems there that need to be addressed rapidly. Bristol City and WBA played out out a 0-0 draw at Ashton Gate. The home side are yet to win this season on their home turf, but are sitting in a reasonable 10th position as things stand. WBA's inconsistent start continued, with 2 wins, 2 draws and 2 losses leaving them in the logical position of 12th, dead in the middle of the table. Huddersfield followed up their first win of the season last time out with a solid 2-0 home victory against Rotherham. There has been speculation that Warnock will resign on Monday, but in the post-match press conference he claimed he would be in the dugout for the game against Stoke on Wednesday, so time will tell. Former Rovers loanee Sorba Thomas had a fantastic match, with an assist and a goal to his name. The result lifts Huddersfield to 17th, whilst defeat for Rotherham puts them in 21st, narrowly outside the relegation zone. Norwich inflicted a third defeat in three games on Stoke, with a 1-0 victory at Carrow Road. Stoke sink to 19th, having not only lost their last three matches but also failed to score in any of those three matches. Just five goals scored from their opening six games places them as one of the lowest goalscorers in the division in the early stages. Defensively they've been slightly more impressive, only letting in seven, but it's looking like it might be another season of underachievement for the Potters. Norwich meanwhile have won four of their opening six matches and sit in 4th place, leading the division in goals scored with fifteen notched thus far. Preston's surprisingly good start to the season continued with a 2-1 win over Plymouth at Deepdale. Their first goal came after just 45 seconds. The result puts Preston back on top of the pile with five wins on the spin coming after their opening day draw. Having conceded the least goals in the division with just four let in, Preston seem to have built on their defensive mindset from last season and then found a way to add goals, as they've netted a healthy ten goals thus far. They are also now the only team in the division without a loss on their record. Time will tell how long they can keep it going. Plymouth meanwhile are in 13th, and despite today's result will surely be happy with the start they've made to life in the Championship. Things seemed to be going well for QPR, a goal up against Sunderland at home, before Jack Colback's sending off in the 21st minute completely turned the game on its head. Sunderland went on to win 3-1. Despite a slightly concerning first couple of matches, Sunderland have quickly bounced back and have now achieved ten points from the last twelve available, lifting them up to 7th. QPR meanwhile have lost four of their opening six matches and hover outside the relegation zone in 20th. Ipswich's dream start to life in the Championship continued with a 1-0 away win against Sheffield Wednesday at Hillsborough. The two clubs promoted from League 1 last season have had contrasting fortunes at the beginning of the season, with Ipswich riding high in 3rd with five wins from their opening six games, and Sheffield Wednesday languishing in 23rd having lost five of their opening six matches and still with only a single point to their name. After Birmingham's winning run came to a halt in their last match, their momentum continued to stutter as they were beaten 2-0 at Vicarage Road by Watford. Birmingham are still clinging on to a playoff spot in 6th, and this was in fact their first defeat of the season. It was a much needed win for Watford - their first since the opening day of the season. They move up to 11th, mirroring WBA's record of 2 wins , 2 draws and 2 defeats. Watford do have a solid base in terms of only conceding five goals, and have scored a reasonable nine, so they can look at their current position with some optimism. Finally Swansea's nightmare start to the season showed no signs of abating as they were beaten 2-0 by Cardiff at the Cardiff City Stadium. The result moves Cardiff up to 15th - having scored ten and conceded ten, their games certainly aren't lacking goals. Swansea are yet to win this season. This was their third defeat in a row, and they've only collected two points from their opening six matches. Plenty of concern there for what has been a dismal first few matches.

No, just perhaps not worded 100% correctly being a late night post just before bed. By "none of the posts in the match thread" I meant none of the silly/dramatic posts made during the match, rather than all posts. Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Not exactly uncommon for silly takes - positive and negative - to be posted in match threads, often in the heat of the moment with heightened emotions. Unless the poster continues to repeat it for days afterwards none of the comments made during matches should really be taken seriously. Hardly unique to this mb either. You'll see the same kind of comments on any other football message board during and after matches, as well as down the pub and in the stands.

Is it me or was O'Brien playing on left wing? I thought he was a CM. Shocking defending from Boro for our second, it's incredible how they stood there and let Sammy tee his shot up before belting it in. Little wonder they're on -9 GD. Dolan's miss looks even worse watching it a second time. It's a shocking lack of composure. Head it anywhere other than upwards and it's going in.

We would have won that easily if we had any strikers at the club, and the officials weren't amateurs. Nonetheless, I'll happily take the three points and thank goodness for Sammy.

Watching this I really don't think Boro are in a false position. Sammy one of our few goal threats, wrap this lad in cotton wool.

If JDT has seen Pears and Wahlstedt in training and genuinely thinks Pears is the better option, then that's concerning. Not in the sense Pears is bad, but more that Wahlstedt isn't showing himself to be better in JDT's eyes than a guy who should really only be our backup goalie. Really hope it's just a case of needing time to settle in for both him and Tronstad. Not confident with that attacking line, but sneaking a single goal from somewhere might be enough.