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Tracking our (outbound) loan players 24/25
RoverCanada replied to BRFC4EVA's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
National League North is obviously not a high level, but Montgomery has been a consistent starter across both his loans this year (17 starts with Marine and 6 starts + 1 sub with Chorley) and bagged a couple goals (including that screamer). He's turning 21 at the end of next month, so the thinking may simply be he'll need to show if he's anywhere near first-team level pretty soon. This season has obviously gone off the rails, so perhaps give him a couple sub appearances as the season winds down... O'Grady-Macken and Edmondson are a couple years behind him. https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2024/february/02/kristi-signs-new-deal/ He's signed through to 2025-26, plus an option. Even if he's only flogged off to a L1/L2 club in the end, that's still a relative success for the Academy (and him!). Small beer, I know... -
Tracking our (outbound) loan players 24/25
RoverCanada replied to BRFC4EVA's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
While there's still some 'hope' (had a glance and bookies have us at 16/1 for playoffs at the moment...), I'm so checked out about the season... I was sceptical of Eustace (and the sustainability of what he had managed to start the year), but he was starting to win me over, and then... Ismael, bah, more a symptom than the root cause. Amid all that, how the loanees and Academy lads are doing at least remains a topic of relatively optimistic interest! Some positives: - Markanday: recent lack of minutes a bit concerning. Hope it's just an outlier. Overall, he's still had 8 starts in 12 league games with 2 goals in L1, plus the obviously successful L2 loan - Batty: injuries still a concern, but he's managed 22 appearances with Accrington, which is a positive? - Duru a regular with L2 Barrow with 8 apps so far. 3 games in a USA U20 call-up too. - Olson immediately becoming a regular starter with Altrincham in NL (now at 13 starts) is a good sign - any potential there? That seemed to come out of nowhere. - Obviously a low level, but Edmondson apparently did well with 7th tier Macclesfield as a 19yo (3 goals in 14 apps) and has again made our bench a couple times. There was a bit of hype about him last year too. - 14 games for Atcheson at NLN Marine as a 17/18yo can't hurt, and has made our bench a few times. Presumably some promise there. NI U19 call-up too... - Montgomery's been a steady starter for both his NLN loans (21 league starts), but he is turning 21 in a couple months, so... On the negative side: Vale blighted by injury (albeit probably running down his contract/trying to showcase him for a low fee sale at this point); O'Riordan maybe salvaging things a bit with Crewe in L2, but hard to ignore the disappointment of the L1 Cambridge loan; poor-ish loan for Gamble for NL Fylde (but perhaps not much of a prospect to begin with); simply looking like a disastrous loan season for Garrett; Harrison Wood's scored 4 in 6 Academy games yet has struggled for minutes at both his Scottish L1 and NLN loans (5 starts, 6 subs, 1 goal, left on the bench 5 times). Guessing he wasn't much of a prospect in the first place given his age (turning 21 in the summer) and the level of those loans? Mafoumbi loan looking more like offloading a signing that didn't work out (baffling if that took up an international slot). Saadi, bah who cares haha. Also, while I agree that the slew of low non-league loans look odd - I'll admit to ignorance at just how low a level those leagues are! - I also suspect they're more 'give a lad a handful of games against men in local non-league/work experience'-style loans rather than full-blown loans. Many have just been for one month, and they've often still played Academy games during the loans. I'd also guess some of those lads weren't really promising prospects in the first place... -
Ben Marshall - Under The Cosh Podcast #89
RoverCanada replied to EgyptianPete's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Treating this as the general 'former Rovers on podcasts' thread 🙂 Benno on I Had Trials Once: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/elliott-bennett-dealing-with-imposter-syndrome-super/id1459117353?i=1000698548123 Decent listen. Always was a likeable guy, and at least honest about his limits as a player! Ultimately scrapped together a heck of a career. Interestingly contrasts himself with his much more skilled younger brother, who got stuck in L1/L2 and maybe got to used to dominating with the ball, while Benno was a steady Championship player who managed a couple PL seasons through graft. Main Rovers tidbits: - Coyle was the worst manager he ever had, repeats stories we've heard from Graham/Conway/Mulgrew etc about what a joke he was re: training/tactics (IHTO hosts mention Willem Tomlinson told them that the young players loved Coyle's training because they didn't know any better, while the vets were fuming). Playing for Coyle made him hate football. - Loved Mowbray (a breath of fresh air after Coyle...) and being at Rovers in general. Felt being honest about his bad start with Rovers helped win the fans over early. Some stories about Dack, Graham, Mulgrew, etc. Recounts the story of Dolan blowing away the senior players when he first joined as Preston reject. - Usual Rovers contracts nonsense (I didn't exactly follow the numbers detailed below!): Recounts the story of the senior players' 33% Covid wage deferral. He and his agent tried offering to turn his deferral into a permanent wage cut in exchange for a contract extension. Mowbray on board with it. Then - surprise - 'the board' come back offering to cut the wage of his remaining year in half in exchange for another year at a 50% cut, so effectively play an extra year for free... He and his agent miffed. For his final year, Mowbray informs him he's not allowed to let him get over a certain number of appearances as it would trigger a 1-year extension at his prevailing wage. Bennett frustrated that his offer to take a wage cut for an extra year would've nullified that, but Rovers are still only offering a 50% wage cut for both years, so he barely plays. At the end of the year, Rovers offer a one-year extension at a 50% wage cut. All left a sour taste in his mouth, so declines that and goes to Shrewsbury at an 80% wage cut. -
Tracking our (outbound) loan players 24/25
RoverCanada replied to BRFC4EVA's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
O'Riordan's goal was a decent strike (er, perhaps given a bit too much time to settle the ball by L2 defenders haha...): Duru's goal poking in a header off a corner (first highlight below): -
Argh, can't find that video of Jason Lowe running the ball out of play under no pressure...
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Tracking our (outbound) loan players 24/25
RoverCanada replied to BRFC4EVA's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24963259.blackburn-rovers-connor-oriordan-scores-barrow/ - Wouldn't be surprised if O'Riordan's cast off in the offseason, but regular L2 football is probably better than PL2 football + mostly sitting on the bench the rest of the year. 21 is still quite young for CB... For comparison, Scott Wharton was 22 (turning 23) in his last L2 loan the year before breaking into the squad in 2020-21 (and then tearing his achilles...). Carter was also 22 (turning 23) in his final L1 loan at Portsmouth. Moving to another tier of talent, Tosin was 22 during his loan. In contrast, THB and Branthwaite were 18, albeit obviously not ready at the time... Lenihan was 20 during his Burton loan. It's certainly been a disappointing year for O'Riordan, but I think it'd be harsh to rule him out already. A Cambridge supporter told me he thought he looked talented, but had some bad luck with a few key mistakes amid a freefalling squad. --- - The article also includes a quote from Leyton Orient's manager - Rovers head coach contender Richie Wellens 😉 - on Markanday: “The squad is good. You only have to look at the likes of Dilan Markanday, he has been unbelievable since he came in. “It has been difficult to get him on in the last couple of games because of the physicality of the opposition and the way the games were going. “You look at Lincoln and Wrexham – every time the ball goes out of play, it is in your box. Every time it is a long throw, a corner, you need to match them up size-wise. It has been difficult for Dilan but his time will come.” Perhaps not a huge endorsement that he doesn't think Markanday can handle the most physical sides, but certainly some kind words and at least it's clear that he's not been outright frozen out. -
v WBA (a) - 12/2/2025
RoverCanada replied to TheRevAshton's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Yeah, I don't think Ribeiro's gotten enough notice, which is fair enough given his quieter role, but he's really impressed me. I don't think he's put a foot wrong so far. Looks like a very solid veteran and has managed 90min in back-to-back games with no sign of flagging. (I suspect having to scrape some cash together to bring him in as cover for Pickering made our transfer window that much more skint...) While I can understand fan frustration with the whole organisation, it does strike me as grasping at straws when someone like Lowe gets targeted on occasion. If he puts cones in the right places, shouts at players in training at the right time, and the players like him and trust him as a confidante to vent about the manager or whatever, what's the issue? (I've sometimes wondered the same about Benson, but at least there's a fair debate there about how we've developed keepers) -
v WBA (a) - 12/2/2025
RoverCanada replied to TheRevAshton's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
If anyone wants to jump on this bad boy before it skyrockets in value...: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/313520791543 ❤️ -
One odd tidbit from one of Jacksons' recent Eustace stories was something about a 'break down in communication' / miscommunication about the health of an u21 player. Jackson makes a point of not naming who the player was... but would have to think Gilsenan is a candidate. Just strange (and feel sorry for the lad as he does seem to have enough talent for a decent look at some point).
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v Wolves (h) - 9/2/2025 - FAC4
RoverCanada replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Stray thoughts on the lineup (obviously Eustace's potential exit hangs over all this...) - Whatever you think about our transfer window, this is a welcome opportunity to give some competitive minutes to Dennis, Kargbo, and Ribeiro - That said, odd that Woodrow isn't included. I'm surprised Cantwell's been given a start instead given he looked to be carrying a knock on Tuesday (or at least that better be his excuse for that performance...), but perhaps hard to fit Woodrow into that front 4 - Might as well give Buckley some more game time, even if my hopes for him turning it around are rather faint these days... Forshaw, well, might as well expose how bad he is - Yeesh, what's the plan if Batth or Hyam go down? While I thought Sanderson's reasonable cover in place of McFadzean, and while we wait on Carter's return, it's a shame he's cup-tied for this very game... Do you really want, I dunno, Ribeiro/Trav/JRC as an emergency CB instead of, say, Litherland or Pratt on the bench? - Haven't been happy with his performances this year, but happy to see JRC at RB to give Brittain a rest, whose been one of our best this year and I'm worried he's getting run into the ground. - Good for Toth to get another opportunity with Pears teetering a bit. -
v QPR (a) - 4/2/2025
RoverCanada replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Certainly don't mind Gueye wanting to take the penalty (as per below, he's 8 for 8 in his career!). It was just something about Travis' body language that bothered me. Looked no different than him trying to wind up an opponent rather than 'leading'... perhaps he was annoyed that Gueye should've known it wasn't his to take? Anyway, Travis has been great this year overall, so I'm not questioning his captaincy! Just happy Dolan buried it... Gueye seemed to react okay after sulking for a second. Happily celebrated the goal and had his best spell for the next 5min or so... So probably a nothingburger in the end! --- Had me curious about our squad's penalty taking record (counting league and cups, all according to fbref): Woodrow: 13 for 15 Gueye: 8 for 8 Forshaw: 5 for 6 Cantwell: 2 for 2 (I'm surprised this year have been his only senior PKs! He's 3 for 3 in PL2) Ohashi: 3 for 3 Sigurdsson: 2 for 3 Dolan: 1 for 1 (does fbref have that wrong? I could've sworn he's taken one before...) Buckley: 1 for 1 Dennis: 0 for 1 Plus a few with a PK record in PL2: Leonard: 3 for 3 Vale: 3 for 3 ACD: 2 for 4 JRC: 0 for 1 -
v QPR (a) - 4/2/2025
RoverCanada replied to Herbie6590's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Yeesh, that was pretty awful. Away end view at Loftus Road is pretty great anyway... Will have to rewatch that 2nd goal as looked like a rocket to me (from the other side of the pitch!) that I wouldn't judge Pears too harshly on, but don't think anyone covered themselves in glory on that one. Also to double-check if Hyam had any culpability on either goal, as I thought he was solid tonight (one terrible pass aside). Surprised no commentary on Gueye and Travis having a bizarrely animated fight about taking the penalty. Glad Dolan buried it, but almost seemed like Travis was winding Gueye up rather than being a leader. Strange. Seemed to wake Gueye up for a few minutes after, but he was quite poor after some solid performances of late. Cantwell was terrible. If he's not carrying a knock (certainly looked like it!), he should be ashamed of that performance (and if he's hurt, why is JE bringing him on as an earlyish sub??). Weimann completely anonymous. Has had his moments this year, but some games sure do pass him by... To try to be kind to Hedges, he certainly does his defensive duties, but just offers nothing with the ball. Did some really good work winning the ball a couple times and then immediately gave it away. Think Brittain needs a rest... heck, probably the whole squad. Get those new bodies into the lineup fast. Ha, I'd actually say Forshaw did nothing wrong in his brief minutes. Good for him. Random views from a couple neutrals who joined me, fwiw: not impressed with Gueye, one thought it looked like Buckley has talent (I was sure to tell him how he's unfortunately flattered to deceive for 2-3 years now... tonight, I thought he was awful in the 1st half but ok in the 2nd). Dolan hit-and-miss. One, who follows a L2 club, was laughing at how amazed he was at how well we and QPR passed it around, reminding him that he usually watches pretty awful football haha -
January Transfer window
RoverCanada replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Was just reviewing the Athletic article on the saga: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5252239/2024/02/06/blackburn-rovers-duncan-mcguire-transfer/ (sorry paywall). Not like there's much else to read at the moment... Yup, that's the general reported story. We had agreed on ~£3m + add-ons that could bring the total to £5m (after some early loan offers were rejected, only offered a permanent deal once the Wharton sale was almost done), plus a sell-on for Orlando. McGuire left Orlando's Mexico camp for NYC the morning before deadline day. That's when Venky's informed Waggott, Broughton, and JDT there's no money for the deal (LET also confirmed this). GB apologetically called Orlando saying the deal was off. Orlando tried calling McGuire back, but he left for Manchester. His agent sent McGuire to that Sheffield hotel as a Sheffield Wed deal was looking more likely. Apparently, his agent then called GB asking if they were still interested with the Wharton sale done. GB said they could still only do a loan. Orlando, wanting money upfront to make their own deals, insisted on a sizeable loan fee. Agreed on a £550k loan fee + £5.5m purchase option + £2m add-ons + Orlando sell-on. So, potentially £3m more than the previous agreement, including the add-ons (LET, for their part, said these figures are 'inflated'). Agent still haggling between Blackburn and Sheffield Wed. GB used some data to make the final sell. McGuire and agent went to Blackburn to sign the deal... -
January Transfer window
RoverCanada replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
As an aside, wasn't the rumour that Mowbray was referring to Marcus Maddison and/or Erhun Oztumer with that comment? In retrospect, it looks like he made the right judgement on those two (particularly in regard to the character of the former, yeesh). Or am I misremembering? (Ronan Curtis, maybe? He never made the jump from Pompey, then unfortunately did his ACL...) -
January Transfer window
RoverCanada replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
What's particularly silly about that excuse is that it essentially admits that we do have a cashflow problem, despite at the same time insisting the owners have no restrictions on sending cash over...