My tuppence worth on the Botham argument. He won cricket matches single handedly, often against the odds against our greatest rival, just when we needed him. He would feature in most people’s greatest-ever England team I would imagine. That makes him a great of the game. Sir Vivian Richards knows what a great cricketer is, as does Allan Border. Without Botham I very much doubt there would have been a Freddie Flintoff and maybe not even a Ben Stokes, who are the two most comparable England players to the great man since he retired. To suggest Botham isn’t an all-time great all rounder because some modern players have better stats than him is a bit odd to be honest, especially when said poster claims to have seen a lot of him. Botham put bums on seats all over the world.

Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Welcome to the Pleasure Dome

Paul McCartney - Listen to What the Man Said

Ocean Colour Scene - Up On the Downside

Knocked a Jam song off the top spot that one if memory serves me right. Muddy Waters - Got My Mojo Workin’

The Skids - Working For the Yankee Dollar

He certainly did in his first spell, he usually had a shocking pair of grey undies on! Though I seem to recall Kenny or Ray asked him to stop doing it when we reached the prem? Edit - posted this before I saw @tomphil’s similar reply.

I can honestly say when he was at Ewood its the first and only time i have ever felt like encroaching onto the pitch and twatting someone. Even Coyle didn't wind me up as much as Kean. My ex brother-in-law coached him as a young player at Celtic and remembered him as being a gobshyte even then. I wonder if his dog is still alive.

The Beatles - Revolution 9

Manzakunt

The Jam - Dreams of Children

Bill Withers - Use Me

The Stranglers - Nice and Sleazy

Just as well they didn't support the club between 1966 and 1975 then.

Queen - I Want to Break Free

Spot on John

Is that the one they nabbed off Wanky Wanderers in the fire sale? Oh, the irony.

Paul Weller - I Wanna Make It Alright

The Sex Pistols - Pretty Vacant

Everything But the Girl - Ballad of the Times

Clyde McPhatter - Without Love

Madness - One Step Beyond

Blowing out of your arse (which Downing has been caught on camera doing a couple of times) is a fairly obvious sign. Tired legs bring a tired mind and he has been caught on his heels more times than the Downing of old would have been. When the same thing has happened to you personally (in my case almost overnight) you learn to spot the subtle signs. Graham's legs had gone at the end of last season (18/19). He adapted his game ever so slightly to try and make up for that and it worked to a degree but he does need to drop a division now if he wants to carry on and play regularly.

Spot on and there were signs for me post-christmas that his legs are starting to go, I saw it in Danny Graham when it started happening and said so on here. Once your legs have gone at that level it doesn't matter how good a passer you are. I'd offer him a reduced wage or say 'thanks and good luck' to him.

The Small Faces - Song of a Baker