Just now, Mattyblue said:

When has Walton ‘shown he’s a class keeper’ in the Championship?

Could chuck that at Raya and we ve seen him at first hand !

Just now, JHRover said:

I think I'd be a bit less angry had this been the first bizarre failure of a window we'd had. But this has become par for the course really. Certainly since last summer our transfer business has been very strange, but even before then it was neglectful of key areas. It always seems to follow the same sort of pattern too. We go into the window talking the talk and appearing to recognise the issues, publicly admit our weaknesses, promise big things which then don't materialise. For it to happen once is disappointing. 3 or 4 times in a row suggests incompetence.

At Wigan he will have competition for a place at CB. More competition than he has ever had here. Add to that a more decisive/ruthless manager and that Mulgrew will be starting from scratch there rather than being well established as top dog here and I'm struggling to see how his chances of game time are going to increase. I could understand it if he had been gradually replaced or frozen out here and was struggling for minutes but he was starting as our captain 6 days ago! Given our lack of depth he would be certain of more game time here even if not 1st choice as we will get injuries.

Something has happened. Personally I think the financial situation is heavily restricted on defensive players and the only way Mowbray was able to get Cunningham in was by offloading Mulgrew once Wigan took an interest. I wonder what would have happened had Wigan not come in. I'm sure Cunningham wouldnt be here and I'm sure we'd still be using Mulgrew in the team. 

Personally think Mulgrews time was up regardless of any so called fall out etc etc.

Tosin is going to play ..Lenihan is going to play ...and maybe Del now hes back from injury/changing nappies. Mulgrew was found out last season . He may have kept the captaincy but I think that was just a club thing ..did someone not say Hanley was Norwich captain ?

Noticed Downing was taking corners Saturday ..said then the writing was on the wall for Mulgrew although never expected him to be shunted out on loan.

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

A last hurrah? It was a league game not a testimonial.

Just now, Ewood Ace said:

It was a league game not a testimonial.

You sure ...

Just now, Mercer said:

As I said earlier, there are ways and means of rewarding managers, coaches, players which also allow you to legislate for loss of form, age catching up etc and thereby de risk potential future liabilities. 

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At the end of the day you ve to give players contracts which protect both the player and club . If the contract isn't seen as long enough the player  leaves on a free ..and the club loses out ..and viceversa  a club picks up a fee if a player wants out. Mulgrew got a two year extension which the majority on here rejoiced.

Unless you re putting players on Pay As You play contracts then theres always going to be risk of loss of form injuries etc during a contract ..again the same at every club up and down the land.

Just now, Mercer said:

Some clubs have a policy once a player reaches 30.

There are ways and means to protect your arse but, as I've said before, I think Ewood and Brockhall is a nous free zone.

And if Mulgrew had carried on his great form and we d not tied him down and then  suddenly left ..im sure TM and Waggott would be getting both barrels from you too Merce.

We all know your views on TM/Waggott and that's fine but please dont try and make out that giving contracts to players in form is something only we d do ..again if we lost all our best players due to lack of contracts you d be playing bloody hell again.

2 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Mulgrew leaving is going to cost Rovers financially.

Think he has another season to run on his contract.

So next season, I think he will either sit on his arse at Ewood or Rovers will have to pay at least part of his contract up in order to get rid (a minimum of 1,500 season ticket sales for next season will be needed to fund that).

All those new lucrative contracts dished out by messrs Mowbray and Waggott is biting us, and will continue to do so, in the bum. 

Give over Merce...

When Mulgrew was handed that contract it was met with great joy by many on here (see the God like thread)  seen as a bit of a coup for us.

It happens all the time at every club that players get new contracts then then twelve month later their legs go. Its not unique to Rovers . 

what do you want us top do ..give players a week to week contract and end up losing half the squad if they hit form ?

Just now, Blue blood said:

Whilst loans are better than nothing that would mean next summer we would need 2-3 centre backs (Tosin Mulgrew and incoming player replacement) and a new keeper. And that's before any other areas of the team are considered!

Nothing like forward planning 

Sod forward planning that's gone ..all about now unfortunately!

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Well obviously!

But £14 a game ain’t £24

Yep reduced average price for paying upfront ! im sure most who cough up for the season (probably miss 3-4 games as well so that 14 quid rises ) wont mind paying  24 quid game by game knowing that their team may go bust rather than  lose 350 quid that they ve paid upfront!

Meanwhile some of our fans want our season ticket prices reduced whilst calling out Bolton fans who want their ticket prices cut or even returned due to missing the Brentford game due to it being cancelled.

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Season ticket holders aren’t used to having to cough up standard prices at home...

Nope they just pay upfront for the whole season ..

Some good points but We weren’t successful in the traditional sense during the Allardyce era ...we were in the Prem which as I said in my post BORDERLINE fans from far and between were attracted to Ewood not just to watch us but to actually watch  Prem footie and so called top sides and players. Once we went on a slide you lose these fans regardless of price. You aint getting coach loads from outside the area to watch us play Barnsley because its cheap  .Success is paramount before price to fill Ewood. Waggott could take hundred quid off the season ticket for this season and id be surprised if it brought in 2000 extra fans...now ..get promoted ..watch the uptake then ..even at these prices.

Again the Oxford game was a simple one off ..promoted ..no different than if we played Burnley in the Championship ..top crowd .fill the stadium (again regardless of price).then back to normality next Home game.

Agree ..cheap tickets would be superb ..but I do not believe for one minute that that's  what will fill Ewood week in week out.

3 hours ago, Stuart said:

Both Waggott and Mowbray are out of touch with the locals I’m afraid. The only thing bringing back the crowds is keen pricing and this is where Waggott needs to do something differently. Instead he just blames fans.

Meanwhile Mowbray is doing nothing with recruitment to excite fans and hasn’t done since he came here. (Did someone say Dack? Absolute wildcard who has come good but is certainly patchy in form - which is why he is still here).

Even today he is talking about wanting fans to get down to Ewood and turn it into a fortress. Such a shame that he hasn’t got to understand yet how the town and football club interact and he seems to be using his North East experience of automatically passionate fans.

We would all love for Ewood to be a football crazy town who will pay top football prices to be entertained by their local heroes. It doesn’t work like that but they keep flogging that horse.

If they really want numbers make them dirt cheap and find a way to bring the financial gap through commercial avenues. If they don’t then they need to stop banging on about it. Blaming the fans (as the “Corry Evans is committed - why aren’t you?” Campaign showed) and holding them in contempt (“where are they?”) will have the opposite effect.

Sorry Stuart don't agree on this pricing malarkey. Yes we d all love it to be cheaper but do you really think cheap season tickets are going to bring back in coaches from Morecambe ,Lancaster , Chorley, Leyland like back when we were in the Prem? Couldn't move for coaches in front of the Fox n Hounds

Success and watching other top sides  are  what these borderline fans want and will pay to see ..not cheap ticketing. 

Now ..for us mere locals it would be fantastic ..but again I seriously cant see it bumping up attendances significantly.

Seriously found our level attendance wise ..and that pains me to say it  but from watching us in the very early eighties with 5500 on I can really see we ve hit that level especially with footie available 12-30 pm til 5-30 pm  on TV with an odd illegal stream inbetween on a Saturday ..to be honest we do well to get what we get ! Arghhhhhhhhhhh

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

No, the reason people don't go is because on the whole the football is crap.  Tony is dour, uninspiring and all the words you can associate with that.  A souness or similar in their prime pushing and fighting with exciting players is what gets the rovers fans down.  I bet a few turn up tomorrow for a look at the new players, Tony has to get it right from day 1 to keep them. That's rovers fans.

No we ve found our level fan wise.Not much different than GB.

Rovers fans have seen TM for two n half seasons now ..so in your theory attendances should have plummeted ..but  yet but stay the same so either half have walked away pissed off with this boring brand of football over the last couple of seasons so that means  half must  have come back onboard to bring the attendance back to its current level ?  

We ve found our Championship level ..only success will bring people back ala Oxford . And that was just a piss up in the sun for most ...

Well IF Nuttall is a success in League One ..ill blame Damien Johnson for letting him go ..because if Johnson can keep getting all the praise for youngsters being PICKED for the first team last season (even though TM allegedly picks the team) then he can take the blame for his release!

But then again its only League One ..he should blitz it no excuses ..just like some on here said we should blitz it when relegated!

The boy aint good enough for Championship football ..

35 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Fantastic full name.

This could take a while so let's start with 'Adarabioyo'

is it pronounced Ada-rabi-oyo or Adar-abi-oyo or ???

We ve two weeks to learn the correct pronunciation ...

(although good chance he ll be on the bench on  Saturday )

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Thought it was a fairly innocuous post, but obviously it makes me a ‘clueless FIFA 19er’.

No youre not ..

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Don’t get your point?

My point was simply Downing signed and played straight away.

Could be argued Matty(and im not arguing !) that Downing came in at the end of the window after playing three games for MK and a full pre season behind him so fully upto speed fitness wise.

Maybe Tosin has nt had any pre season as such ..?

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Nope. But his non-selection says alot. 

Ah ok ..thank god for that then !

Reading the interview TM gave out about Tosin its quite obvious he does rate him and im sure he wouldn't be here if he didn't. 

Can understand him not being thrown in three days after signing for tactical reasons worked out this week (hopefully) ..should have been signed earlier and he probably would have but we ve faffed about getting him in.

Im sure he will  become a regular..although my only other concern is if we have two clean sheets in two games would TM drop Mulgrew and would we as fans want him too ?

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Irrelevant. The best new signings go straight in - because they're very good players. Our new boy clearly isn't in that category. 

You writing him off before hes even kicked a ball for us Jim ..? ..Brave..

Tosin signed ..

Just now, Mattyblue said:

Played full back though, didn’t he?

Even better with our FB choices !

Just now, Stuart said:

He was very lucky indeed. Although it was a good first time finish, his positioning was completely off.

He flaps a lot at thin air and is a keeper who prefers to punch than catch. His only advantage on Raya is his height.

..and Raya sold. 

Morelos coming on for Rangers ...panic

Bell stops a cross !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just now, old darwen blue said:

 Wouldn’t be too sure of the accuracy of that article, it claims we adopted a Maltese cross in the 1970s!

Ha indeed ..lets try again ...

https://ewoodpark.jimdo.com/blackburn-rovers-glorious-legacy-winning-identity-badge-history/

Just now, Stuart said:

It’s not that old either. About ‘86?

Good ole Google .. you wasn't far off Stuart..

https://thefootballcrestindex.com/blogs/premier-league-clubs/blackburn-rovers-fc