11 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

It's apparent that his fan club on here have become very quiet recently. They were all over the board when we had our good spell after Xmas.

That maybe so TS but just wondered if the crowd made their feelings known in public ..?

Wasnt at the game today due to work commitments .. those that were there ..any crowd backlash during/final whistle ? Usually a good indication of enough is enough .?

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

I wouldnt blame them for lack of effort. The same mistakes over and over again they can certainly be blamed for. Which takes us back to the manager. He was happy with 'the group' and happy he didn't strengthen a month ago. Now he's hammering them. I think the problem may be Tony. 

Hmm id question the lack of effort at times ..we only seem to put the effort in in the second half after we re usually behind and I presume a kick up the ass from the coaching staff!

But Mowbrays players so Mowbray carrys the can.

Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Hardly like he has on Raya though! 

No true ..but as I said in a previous post the players get an easy ride and going through the motions  so f@ck um lets start naming names. 

If I had my way id wheel the manager and players into the Fox n Hounds after a game and let them hear some proper home truths 

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

He's blaming the players because he failed to address the weaknesses within the squad. No point blaming a three-legged donkey for not winning the Grand National. 

Poor do. 

Maybe .. but even footballers from the Sunday League wouldn't keep making the same mistakes and lack of effort we see on some Saturdays !

Just now, Mattyblue said:

The proof will be in the performances until May.

You are right, the manager carries the can, so he was extremely foolish giving bang average players new deals and generally automatic starting positions.

Lets hope he finds some ruthlessness in the summer or we’ll be back to League 1 in 2020.

Not defending Mowbray .. his players his  tactics etc etc  and captain of the ship  but just think todays players can please their self and carry on as normal after half hearted performances  apart from a few nasty comments on their social bloody media from fans who they then simply block. Wrapped in cotton wool .

 I wonder how they d perform if they only got a nominal 15% of their wage for  starting a game ..60% for a draw and 100% for a win ..

Just now, Mattyblue said:

He’s gone from never blaming the players publicly to slamming them in every interview.

Obviously feeling the pressure...

Maybe a new tact from Mowbray ? Todays players get so much adulation 10 bet player of the week this ..Rovers player of the month that  on top dollar at a mid table Championship club and going through the motions yet never suffer criticism. 

Once of a day a manager never went public on his players but in todays football the players seem to have the upper hand on managers.  The manager loses his job when players underperform and cant be assed knowing they ll still be here next season. A manager cant win today.

So why not go public and criticise ..nowt to lose ..he may actually get a tune out of them this way. 

Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

That’s it Tony - ignore Mulgrew, Rodwell, Bell, Williams and Bennett. They’ve been ace.

tbf Mowbray did go public on the rest of the defence last week on an interview on Radio Lancs .

"don't care if  defenders are scoring goals (Mulgrew and Bell I presume) their job is to stop goals and if they arnt doing that then they wont be playing next season " ..or words to that effect.

5 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

I watched the game at Doncaster last week and Brereton, although he scored a couple, didn't look anything special and at times was so easily knocked off the ball - and Doncaster were fielding a number of their Under-18's in that game.  For me, he needs to spend time with the Under-23's and needs to build his upper body strength if he is going to be competitive in the Championship.  We tend to forget that he is still very young and his game is still in its development stage and far from the finished article.

Shame Brereton wasn't chucked in the U-23 s right from signing (although questions would have been asked why a 7M players is playing with the U-23s!). Score a few goals ..confidence high and then throw him in for the remaining games of the season with (hopefully !) nothing to play for. Fans would have been eager to see this 7 M lad  and probably would have cut him a lot  more slack than he has got especially if he d chipped in with a few goals for the U-23s. Fans would have been a lot more patient im sure.

One or two tweets from WHU fans watching last night saying they couldn't handle Brereton ..question is can TM handle him ?

City ...already too many Wooly backs knocking about around here !

I think most on here have read/heard Mowbrays  eye opening comments after todays game ..how does one see them .. Dead man walking ..he knows hes gone ..or .. I know im here next season and he  means what he s saying ?

Just now, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I had a lot of time for Raya, I thought he had bags of potential. Having said that like every other player in the team  at the moment he's not stepped to the level of this league. He's making the same costly mistakes too often. Time to give the other guy a game ?

Brian Clough used to say he'd break the bank for the best possible goalkeeper. " Nobody can lose you a game quicker than your goalkeeper ". He wasn't wrong there.

Well after naming and shaming  TM will look a bit stupid if he doesnt drop Raya now. .

Just now, Waggy76 said:

Brad Friedel had Samba , Nelsen and  Short  in front of him who could attack the bloody ball

....

Raya definitely took a backwards step since the Rodriguez injury.

1 minute ago, blueboy3333 said:

Extraordinary comments from Mowbray. He's hung Raya out to dry. 

He's hung a few out listening to his interview on Radio Lancs. Mulgrew certainly another.

Just now, Stuart said:

Another few games and we might have something to play for!

11 points clear and 11 games left. Lost to Reading in the bottom three and losing to another one.

Anyone know what this is:

I don't know ..but whatever it is it doesn't  look good ..

2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

On this forum I remember posting on the Stanley thread in 2016 saying I was happy they’d got beat in the League 2 play offs, as a League 1 Stanley is the last thing we need as a club.

From memory I was laughed off the thread and told that they were totally insignificant to us and wouldn’t impact our fanbase at all...

It was also rumoured many moons ago that Stanley "pushed " for their Home games to be played on the same day as Rovers at home because they always thought they got more Burnley fans paying them a visit when they d no game compared to when Rovers didn't have a game.

As i posted previously I don't see many Dads n Lads (or Mums) or families sat around me anymore .In fact thinking about it there's actually no kids travelling to home games via the Accy supporters coach either. Its the old school older generation who just renew and go.  Its the younger generation they need to entice.  

2 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said:

I have no problem with him soliciting players advice. Mowbray is managing by allowing his players input.

They play the game, they understand it. If they feel empowered they are more likely to play for the manager. If he gets the right balance performances will improve.

I've worked at places were employee feedback schemes were prominent. Management often asked for ideas on how to improve. It made working easier.

I've also worked for managers who did it all alone. Those types often got frustrated.

As long as the managers decision is final ive no qualms with input. Last thing we need is a Sarri /Kepa situation !

                                                           Friedel

                                       Berg   Hendry  Moran  Le Saux  

                                        Ripley   Tugay   Barker   Duff     

                                                    Shearer Garner

2 hours ago, frosty said:

Ooijer too, captain of Holland no less.

Lucas Neil 

3 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

I said months ago he should be with the under 23s!

Yeah about time ..lets hope it does him some good.

More interested in how Chapman is doing to be honest.

12 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Football is on a Saturday at 3pm or 7.45pm on a weekday night. The vast majority of games are at those times...except when SKY get involves which as an ST holder one has to accept when buying one's ticket. However, the issue here is that the club have decided to move the game without reason. When football clubs move games there is always a reason given (Sky, Police etc). Do you see the issue now?

And as I said in my original response that is irrelevant to someone having to miss the game because they have a responsibility to the company they work for and a contract to abide by. I've missed lots of others things to go to the Rovers, playing football, nights out, family do's. We all make sacrifices to go to Rovers. . I just can't miss work and that's the point I made.  There is no equivalence between a hobby and a job you have to attend to pay your mortgage. 

Please try and stick to what is actually being discussed rather than what is going on in your muddled head. We don't want a repeat of all the stuff you got wrong yesterday now do we?

Now now are you to trying to belittle me and make me cry ?? ?

Again BlooBoy its not all about you ! Whats insignificant to you as another person having to miss the game is probably very significant to them.

Unfortunately I cant miss work too ..but im sure theres others who will now get to see the game who would have had to work Saturday afternoon.

Just now, blueboy3333 said:

I was responding to someone who was complaining about others complaining even though they themselves were unaffected.

What on earth does someone working Mon-Fri have to do with a game being moved from 3pm to 12pm on a Saturday by the club for no apparent. At least be relevant

Relevant to the fact whatever kick off time is or whatever day someone somewhere will be unhappy ..like yourself 

And Meadows daughter is now going to have to miss Drama which shows however insignificant this is to you (but im damn sure it isn't to her ) or others that KO times will never suit everyone.

58 minutes ago, blueboy3333 said:

Good for you. I'm not because I'll probably be working and won't be able to get there in time. Do you work on a Saturday morning?

Am I ok to be annoyed because they've switched the kick-off time for no obvious reason which means as a ST holder I now won't be able to get there? Is it reasonable to be annoyed that one of the few times a local derby is not moved by the Police or Sky, Rovers themselves have decided to move it instead for no apparent reason?

 

Absolutely irrelevant to anyone else's situation, unless of course her drama is compulsory and/or pays the mortgage.

Drama queen ! ?

Everyone s situation is different .. and those who work Mon - Fri will probably look at your situation and think that's its irrelevant just as those who work 2-10 will think they re hard done too with the number of games changed to midweek for tv (which im told has no bearing on attendance numbers ?) 

You will never please everyone 

(btw im missing it through work too but that just how it is in an era when the working week isn't Mon - Fri like in the good ole days )

Just now, Waggy76 said:

I think  , the chances of Rovers getting into the Play Offs are none existent ..Unless the owners  go out and get the right manager in ...Kean ,Berg ,Appleton , Bowyer , Lambert , Coyle and Mowbray ... Worrying !

Bowyer had the best squad of players by a long long way ...

Lets not forget Bowyer got to bring in 25 plus players too into Ewood ..even I would get three decent players out of that many !

W1 D1 L 1..GB 

Just now, Mercer said:

Had enough of this misery.  Only consolation is I backed Brum this morning and the winnings will come in very handy for tonight.  Off to the local to wet my whistle. 

The Curse of Merce ..